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OfflineAngry Mycologist
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Using air pump without bubbler.....
    #1111626 - 12/04/02 11:07 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Well, the birth of my cakes draw nigh, so I have this question about my terrarium setup: I am using an air pump for air exchange, I do not have this leading into a bubbler inside the terrarium. I am just letting the air blow in through the tube. Any possible problems?

The Tek I used for my terrarium is here: http://www.lilshopofspores.com/humdity_chamber.htm


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Re: Using air pump without bubbler..... [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1111648 - 12/04/02 11:16 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I don't know but I always use a bubbler set in a PC pipe with 3% h20 that will help keep contams down if any come in thru the air pump. just my 2 cents on that alot of people are different.


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Re: Using air pump without bubbler..... [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1111669 - 12/04/02 11:23 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

You need to filter one end or the other- intake or exhaust. Otherwise you're pumping your chamberfull of contaminated air. You can put the pump in a box with a filter, but the H2O2 bubble ris probably your best bet.


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Re: Using air pump without bubbler..... [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1111687 - 12/04/02 11:30 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I don't filter it. What about when you fan your terrarium? That isn't filtered. I'm not saying a filter of some kind isn't a good idea I'm just saying you don't need one.


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Re: Using air pump without bubbler..... [Re: New Name]
    #1111700 - 12/04/02 11:33 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Hmmmmmmmm........ok. Getting mixed messages about the filter issue guys.


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Re: Using air pump without bubbler..... [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1111731 - 12/04/02 11:43 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Can you not spend like a few extra bucks?
$1 for airline tubing
$1 for diffuser stones
$0.49 for a bottle of hydrogen peroxide
The thing with the bubbler is that it knocked out 2 birds with one stone. Not only is the air clean, it'll add moisture to the air.


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Re: Using air pump without bubbler..... [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1111746 - 12/04/02 11:49 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Here is how I have my tub setup The fans and power unit I had it will give a idea of how I have it I don't have to open it till they are ready to pick.or just to check on them


the fans run every two hours for 15 minute fist the exhaust runs once it stops the intake start to fill it with fresh air. the light comes only for 5 hours a day. the perlite is soaked for a couple of minutes only then the bubbler does the rest so if the perlite get dry the bubbler put enough moisture in there to keep it at 93 to 96 % it been working really good for me. It all runs off a program I wrote for my Computer with a alarm if anything goes wrong it will let me know.



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    #1111748 - 12/04/02 11:50 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)



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Re: Using air pump without bubbler..... [Re: ]
    #1111762 - 12/04/02 11:53 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I don't feel the need to add any more humidity, just to make sure I get complete air exchange without a bubbler.


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Re: Using air pump without bubbler..... [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1111786 - 12/05/02 12:01 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

A bubbler doesn't add as much humidity as you think. Even with two diffuser stones it still dried out my casing because I accidentally left it on too long.


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Re: Using air pump without bubbler..... [Re: daussaulit]
    #1111799 - 12/05/02 12:07 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Interesting....have you had any contamination problems?


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Re: Using air pump without bubbler..... [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1111812 - 12/05/02 12:10 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I have had not one yet (Knock on wood) But had some great flushes the last one I had was with PR total from the 5 flushes was 700grams wet not bad. I'm using cow shit to spawn them into too.


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Re: Using air pump without bubbler..... [Re: ]
    #1112007 - 12/05/02 01:10 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Any one know of a good diagram for a cheap air/humidity setup? I was thinking, aquarium pump pumping through a say 2litre pop bottle with waterand peroxide mix, and output air going into terrarium???? this would work eh? I tried drawing an ascii diagram but i suck bad at that shiz...,.


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Re: Using air pump without bubbler..... [Re: ]
    #1112354 - 12/05/02 02:48 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

shroom_nut, thats awesome.. im doing pretty much the same setup except for the fans.. i was wondering how you made your bubbler? ive got a fish tank heather and i want to use h2o2 but when i made double chamber my air pump wasnt pumping air throught the whole thing eventhough it was air tight.. any suggestions?
thanks.


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Re: Using air pump without bubbler..... [Re: New Name]
    #1112383 - 12/05/02 02:56 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

In reply to:

What about when you fan your terrarium? That isn't filtered.


I agree, but I don't know about you, I spray lysol above my terrariums a couple of minutes before fanning. Not as good as running a hepa, but better than nothing.


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Re: Using air pump without bubbler..... [Re: Skikid16]
    #1112387 - 12/05/02 02:58 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Nope. I never do that. and I have never lost a casing to any contamination. I have lost jars (actually since I started using tyvek filters I haven't lost any) , but not casings.


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Re: Using air pump without bubbler..... [Re: New Name]
    #1112418 - 12/05/02 03:17 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Well smile, cause god loves you.  :wink:  Even with the lysol spray, I'll still lose a casing or two every so often. 


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Re: Using air pump without bubbler..... [Re: Skikid16]
    #1112421 - 12/05/02 03:22 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I work in a clean room of forms.
Everything is in an enclosed room that stays sealed all day.
I walk in, let the air settle and then fan.
Works perfectly.


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Re: Using air pump without bubbler..... [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #1112440 - 12/05/02 03:35 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I've been meaning to clean out my grow room for a while, but given my particular situation, its a little tough. But I got one of those plastic shelving systems (with the plastic covering) and as soon as I can clean out my closet REAL good, hopefully I can cut down on the contams.


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Re: Using air pump without bubbler..... [Re: mxpxnofx09]
    #1112786 - 12/05/02 07:22 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

My old tub was the same way as my new one but my heat came from under the tub with a heat pad.it would keep it in the high 80's if I set it on high. But I took a 6" pc pipe put a pc divider it but i first drilled a ton of holes in the divider (them fish tank divider work good) then Epoxy it in I have the heater on one side and the bubbler on the other it does really good But leave about 4" from the top this will let the water & heat come out all the way around the PC instead of one side





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