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OfflineEyes of Providence
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First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics
    #11110421 - 09/23/09 12:43 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Hi guys. This is my first unaided (except for the sharp group here) grow after a ton of reading and research. I am using the PF TEK on a syringe of P. Cubensis B+ strand. This post will serve as my grow log, or at least with any luck, what will be a grow log. I'll update with pics to this first post. Any feedback or alterations are welcome. I plan to harvest then flush/dunk and repeat. I used most of my spores on the first 5 jars. I plan to attempt to make a print out of some of the yield so I can continue. I'll ask questions about that if I make it that far.

Strand:  P. Cubensis B+
Jar pepr: Citric's method of self healing lids


Starting Citric's tek


Lids with tyvek filter


Drying on the jars


Making the mix of BRF and verm


Filled jars



Now awaiting the growth of mycelium then into the FC. :1up:

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Eyes of Providence]
    #11110433 - 09/23/09 12:47 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Just to let you know your jars are reg mouth not wide mouth.  So your prob going to have to break the jars or crumble the cakes to geth them out of the jars...


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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: TacoHerder]
    #11110443 - 09/23/09 12:51 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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TacoHerder said:
Just to let you know your jars are reg mouth not wide mouth.  So your prob going to have to break the jars or crumble the cakes to geth them out of the jars...



I've never had to with that same exact jar (same packaging). The myc eats/shrinks the substrate enough that they slide out most times, sometimes you have to hit it like a ketchup bottle, but that's about it.


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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: TacoHerder]
    #11110445 - 09/23/09 12:52 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

And for PF tek you dont want to inject in the middle. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8429590#8429590 watch the videos and see how he prepares the lids. those lids you made are really for grains.


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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Randomstickynote]
    #11110452 - 09/23/09 12:53 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

:shrug:guess your getting lucky, cause thats why people say to use wide mouth instead of reg mouth for PF tek...


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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: TacoHerder]
    #11110458 - 09/23/09 12:54 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: TacoHerder]
    #11110462 - 09/23/09 12:56 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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:shrug:guess your getting lucky, cause thats why people say to use wide mouth instead of reg mouth for PF tek...




No One Says This? They say Dont use the jars with "shoulders"!


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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: TacoHerder]
    #11110469 - 09/23/09 12:58 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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And for PF tek you dont want to inject in the middle. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8429590#8429590 watch the videos and see how he prepares the lids. those lids you made are really for grains.




I did not inject via the middle port. That is covered with tyvek. The red silicone hole on the side is where I made my 4 injections. Doing it again I would make 2 of these holes as it would help with maneuvering the syringe. Having only 1 hole make it a little difficult to reach the far side.

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: TacoHerder]
    #11110479 - 09/23/09 01:01 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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:shrug:guess your getting lucky, cause thats why people say to use wide mouth instead of reg mouth for PF tek...



I thought it was mostly because of colonization times. My wide mouth half pints colonize like twice as fast, they usually germinate right at the bottom edge and colonize from the bottom up, which is usually what gets colonized last with the regular mouth.

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I plan to attempt to make a print out of some of the yield so I can continue. I'll ask questions about that if I make it that far.




Even if you don't get shrooms, as long as you don't get contams and get a fully colonized cake, you should be able to make an LC, either from taking a myc syringe and then knocking up an LC, or just dropping a chunk of freshly birthed cake into


So you did get spore solution running down four different sides? If so then nothing to worry about, all should go well. The only thing I can think of is since that tek for that lid was for grains, with the Tyvek on the inside, it's constantly going to be touching the moist substrate, which can possibly breed contams. Hopefully not though, good luck.


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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Randomstickynote]
    #11110503 - 09/23/09 01:06 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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The only thing I can think of is since that tek for that lid was for grains, with the Tyvek on the inside, it's constantly going to be touching the moist substrate, which can possibly breed contams. Hopefully not though, good luck.





Yea I wondered about that but I am hoping that the dry verm top layer will keep the filter dry and not be a breeding ground for contams.

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Eyes of Providence]
    #11165392 - 10/01/09 06:03 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Update: A little over a week and no activity. Are the jars stalled? Do they need more fresh air? Temp is currently at 75°F.

Ideas or do I need patience?

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Eyes of Providence]
    #11165423 - 10/01/09 06:06 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

how many cc's per jar did you use i see your lids only have 1 innoc site that could slow things right down plus i have waited more then 8 days before just keep an eye on it

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Shea25]
    #11165617 - 10/01/09 06:50 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

My b+ jars took very long to show growth, give it another week and see if they show anything.


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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: xxgeorgexx]
    #11394180 - 11/05/09 09:13 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Here is last week:

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Eyes of Providence]
    #11394220 - 11/05/09 09:19 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

One week later they went crazy:


Moving to a fruiting chamber right now. Next I need to look into making prints so I can be self sufficient. Though if any members have a spare laying around I would gladly except. I know I am new but I am not sure of the yield yet.

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Eyes of Providence]
    #11394639 - 11/05/09 10:18 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

damn! look at all those poor mushies just dyin to get out! hope all works out for ya.

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Ma Fen]
    #11394855 - 11/05/09 10:55 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Yea these guys were slow to show but now they want out!! My guess in the initial delay was the low temp which I will correct next go around.

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Eyes of Providence]
    #11394874 - 11/05/09 10:58 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

How did they get that big without you noticing?


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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: ENEMY]
    #11400338 - 11/06/09 06:45 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I was out of town for a few days and the jars ramped up from 80% to 100%+ within that time. It will be more controlled next time as along as I can get at least one good print from this batch.

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Eyes of Providence]
    #11423283 - 11/09/09 11:24 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Just a quick update on progress. The little pins maturing into grownup caps. Temp is at 68.9 and humidity right at 96%-98%.



One day later — A few little guys hanging out:



So now when is the right time to pick 1 off to make a print? Veils are still intact.

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Eyes of Providence]
    #11423415 - 11/09/09 11:43 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

They're definitely not ready to be picked.

If making prints, wait until the veil breaks fully, then pull it.

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: fromga2wa]
    #11424212 - 11/10/09 04:11 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

TacoHerder said:
:shrug:guess your getting lucky, cause thats why people say to use wide mouth instead of reg mouth for PF tek...




No One Says This? They say Dont use the jars with "shoulders"!




cakes fall right out with regular half pints.
but i do notice they colonize a 4-6 days slower than wide mouth half pints.
buuuuuut they do contain more substrate than a wide mouth, due to the fact i make a smaller verm barrier.

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Eyes of Providence]
    #11464948 - 11/16/09 01:57 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Update on the happenings. These guys got really big and started to sag under their own weight. 7 shrooms out of only 1 jar!!! Can't wait to see what 12 jars would yield. Sorry I don't have a scale yet so I can't weigh them wet but I will have one by the time they're dry.



Getting bigger and starting to fall over:


Picked and ready to dry:


I know they look wet and they are but do they look ok? They look fun to me but I'm still and little new at this.

24 hour dunk tonight then rolling and back in the chamber.Hope the yield continues to produce. The cake shrunk a decent amount. If I get any more this next go-round I need to pick soon enough to make a print.

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Eyes of Providence]
    #11465116 - 11/16/09 03:30 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Those look fine to me, although I wouldn't have let them mature so much.


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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Poseidon]
    #11465299 - 11/16/09 05:30 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Nice work. Do let us know how the potency is, please. A few people around here seem to consider B+ as maybe a bit on the impotent side! I hope your experience is different... (I am sitting here with a syringe full of B+ and grains cooling in the PC!)


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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Puma]
    #11465463 - 11/16/09 06:45 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Will do Puma. This is my first time with B+ which I found were easy to grow for a 1st timer. I have not heard any bad things until recently. I wonder if it has more to do with the supplier? Of course if they are on the weak side then I would think it has more to do with me and it being my 1st time out vs low potency.

I still have half a syringe of B+ as well.

I'll update back with the experience in Dec! :mushroom2:

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Eyes of Providence]
    #11469749 - 11/16/09 08:18 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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I'll update back with the experience in Dec! :mushroom2:




Cool, looking forward to it! Enjoy :mushroom2:

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Eyes of Providence]
    #11469822 - 11/16/09 08:30 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

nice job on your first grow, my first time wasnt so happy!?!? keep up the good work


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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Puma]
    #11469848 - 11/16/09 08:34 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)



The jars 3rd from the left are wide mouth.  Everything else is regular mouth.  You have wide mouth, I don't know what t.h. is talking about.

Looks great, nice job!

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: Montock]
    #11469853 - 11/16/09 08:36 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

i currently have a few jars incubating now for my first grow. i used the pf tek as well. i've kept them at 85F and it's been about 9 days now and there's little to no growth yet. i know you said you kept yours at 75F. how long did it take yours to fully colonize? first signs of growth? thanks


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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: BreakThru]
    #11469901 - 11/16/09 08:44 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

85*F is way too high.  80*F is the highest you want them to get.

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: libertaire]
    #11469973 - 11/16/09 08:55 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

i started a thread earlier today trying to get some opinions. it seems almost split down the middle between mid to high 70s and mid 80s. i've heard it can take 15 days at 86F and 30 days at 76F to fully colonize but i'm curious as to what really works best for most of us. i don't want to trail off too far so check out my thread and give me some tips http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11469041


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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: BreakThru]
    #11469975 - 11/16/09 08:55 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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i currently have a few jars incubating now for my first grow. i used the pf tek as well. i've kept them at 85F and it's been about 9 days now and there's little to no growth yet. i know you said you kept yours at 75F. how long did it take yours to fully colonize? first signs of growth? thanks





well mycl growth slows done after 86f.... and your jars produce heat on the inside so if your outside temp is 85 you can count on the internal temp being 3 or so degrees higher. and mycl starts dying at 91. i would get those to 80 degrees max. right now your jars are an open door for contams to walk right in and fuck shit up.


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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: TacoHerder]
    #11470073 - 11/16/09 09:08 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

thanks for the tip. didn't think about the temp being a little higher on the inside of the jars. maaakes sense. i'm going to turn down the thermostat now.


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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: BreakThru]
    #11470404 - 11/16/09 09:54 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Nice results from just 1 jar

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics [Re: BreakThru]
    #11470972 - 11/16/09 11:02 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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i currently have a few jars incubating now for my first grow. i used the pf tek as well. i've kept them at 85F and it's been about 9 days now and there's little to no growth yet. i know you said you kept yours at 75F. how long did it take yours to fully colonize? first signs of growth? thanks





My B+ took 4 weeks:( to fully colonize but for the first 3 nothing, nothing happened. From what I read this is becoming more common with B+ regardless of temp. After the forth week at 100% I waited another week like the RR videos suggested but by then I already had a few guys poke and reach for the top of the tyvek filter. (See jars on page 1 with the green backdrop). I should have kept a better eye on them before the little guys started to show. It would have been more like 3 days — not an entire week.

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Re: First grow P. Cubensis B+ with Pics Dark spot [Re: Eyes of Providence]
    #23167720 - 04/29/16 02:17 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Hi guys. Can somebody tell me if I have an infection here?





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