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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: Anno]
    #1116442 - 12/06/02 06:52 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

or you can just set the entire brick in a tub of water [i used my bathtub] and it will practically fall apart in your hands once it's soaked up the water.
then just drain it and use at will.
my block was dunked months ago and is uncontaminated and easy to use still.


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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: Anno]
    #1116489 - 12/06/02 07:59 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

anno, thanks for the pics, i think i'm starting to get it, maybe i won't give it up yet. hippie3, i appreciate your tek, but for the time being i have other uses for my bathtub :wink:, cant afford to just let it sit full of moist coco coir for the next 6 months :grin: btw, i'll post a pic of my bathtub one of these days :grin: 


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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: Joshua]
    #1117142 - 12/06/02 12:22 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I was thinking. As the material hydrated, it ouuld expand and he would find it all over his floor. This kid's an idiot. You can say what you like.


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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: comario2]
    #1117212 - 12/06/02 12:52 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Don't get me wrong- Coir is a neat product, but it's not perfect. It comes bricked tighter then Mexican ditchweed, and is just about as much fun to break up. It gives good to excellent results. It seems more eco-friendly then peatmoss.

But- you're paying $5-7 a pound for 3rd world waste/by-products! Some people have reported finding insects and other contams in the coir- so treatbefore use-I don't know if the bleach pasturization wouldwork. I have a local product that is similar,but is MUCH cheaper. I tried to order several cases of Coir a couple of years ago. The shipping cost alone was so bad, it was cheaper to justdrive to the warehouse in Houston and oick it up myself!!! The local stuff need more testing - any volunteers?? Maybe free samples if you want to try it- I can't won't sell it,but would share if anyone else wanted to check it out.

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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1117293 - 12/06/02 01:16 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

>you're paying $5-7 a pound

I pay 2 dollars for 2 pounds.

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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1117296 - 12/06/02 01:17 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

so, what is your alternative product? more details? i do appreciate your offer for a sample, it's very kind on your part :laugh: 


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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: comario2]
    #1117492 - 12/06/02 02:05 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Steamed 'cedar' flakes. Not red cedar- this is actually a juniper.
I've used it in ag/hort application in place of peat and in place of coir, and it rocks.
I don't have the time and space to do all the tets I want to,so if I give it to 10 people that can try it, the testing goes that much faster.

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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1119045 - 12/06/02 11:57 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Well you might be getting third world wastes but I sure as hell don`t.
My coir bricks are made of coir.
The bricks I use are made of compacted palm husks.
I don`t find any crap in there, certainly not insects.
Nothing but coir.
It`s simple to work with and works well.
I use coc coir to plant all my seedlings, seeds, cuttings, casings. You name it.
It`s excellent stuff.

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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #1119140 - 12/07/02 12:41 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Oh I see..yours comes from the Santa Barbara/Malibu coconut plantations.
There are several different brands. But I wonder how different they really are.

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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: On_the_Down-Low]
    #1119229 - 12/07/02 01:31 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Santa barbara/ malibua palms??
say what??
i`m from South Africa man, we get huge date palms here.
Nothing wrong with the coir I get.
Excellent stuff.
No doubt it`s high quality.
You americans seem to have lots of products that are bad quality in order to make it cheaper.

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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: Hippie3]
    #1119394 - 12/07/02 04:35 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

exactly, just throw the brick in a bucket, add water, sit back and wait. No need to break the stuff up beforehand, unless you want to use only a portion of the whole brick.


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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: Una]
    #1119396 - 12/07/02 04:36 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I thinking we're flogging my dead horse here.
:wink:

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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: comario2]
    #1119514 - 12/07/02 08:06 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

lol
silly.
i didn't leave it in my bathtub,
i was smart enough to place it in a rubbermaid first,
so i simple drained it and removed it from my tub.
it's still sitting ready to be used some several months later.
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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: Una]
    #1119539 - 12/07/02 08:39 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

>unless you want to use only a portion of the whole brick.

My elucidations were meant for exactly this particular case.

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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #1119609 - 12/07/02 09:49 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

i can't believe this thread is so long, and about hydrating a frickin coir brick


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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: rhizo]
    #1119649 - 12/07/02 10:17 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Be expressing your unbelief you are only making it longer.... :wink: 

Edited by Anno (12/07/02 10:18 AM)

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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: Anno]
    #1119886 - 12/07/02 12:57 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

:wink: 


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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #1120058 - 12/07/02 02:38 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:


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Santa barbara/ malibua palms??
say what??




That's a joke son- Malibu and Santa Barbara are VERY affulent California cities.

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You americans seem to have lots of products that are bad quality in order to make it cheaper.



I'm assuming you realize that cheap shit is IMPORTED here.
Please don't make me point of the short commings of beautiful South Afrika-I'm sure that now that the evil White men are no longer in power- it must be a fucking utopian dream about now eh?????? Do you live in Soweto??? Of course not! Perhaps you could move to Zimbabwe- Oh wait, that's right- we lost that too, and Mugabbe is a terrorist killing his own people.  :ooo:


Sorry- It sounded like you made a crack about Americans.

 

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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: Anno]
    #1120567 - 12/07/02 08:05 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I folllow the anno tek (above) for breaking it up, then throw a bunch of dry material with some water over it in a microwavable dish. i zap with lid on for about 8 min to get the chunks all softened up. then i layer the wet coir on a cookie sheet. set the oven on 300 and crack the door. it takes about three hours and some mixing once or twice, but eventually all you coir will be dry as a bone. then i load this in a big ziploc to save for later.

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Re: coco brick - hard as a brick! [Re: rosewoodpete]
    #1120912 - 12/07/02 11:08 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Wow on-the-downlow
Do you also think I`m black?? wait my pet lion is free again, let me beat it with my laptop.
Your knowledge of South Africa is astounding.

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