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LeopardMan
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Spore syringe
#11098910 - 09/21/09 06:23 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi everyone,
I am going to start my first project in the next few days. I just received this spore syringe from Azarius. What about those drops inside the bag?
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Doc_T
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Looks like some of the spore solution was expelled in shipping. Could still be ok, or may be contaminated. Only one way to find out. I really prefer syringes shipped with the caps on and a separate needle, just for this reason.
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Poseidon
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Re: Spore syringe [Re: Doc_T]
#11098962 - 09/21/09 06:52 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd strongly recommend replacing the needle if you are going to use that (pharmacy, 25 gauge or lower if you can). It definitely blew its load. I'm willing to bet it's still fine for PF cakes, though. Looks like a crappy syringe with a really low spore count anyways.
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LeopardMan
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Re: Spore syringe [Re: Doc_T]
#11098970 - 09/21/09 06:54 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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So depressing... This is what I call a good start.
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LeopardMan
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Re: Spore syringe [Re: Poseidon]
#11098985 - 09/21/09 07:04 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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How do you know how many spores there are in the syringe? Just because of the color?
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sonnyboy209
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the spore counts in the syringes from azarius are low most of the times. but they are good enough from my experience. brf cakes will do!
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sonnyboy209
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Quote:
LeopardMan said: How do you know how many spores there are in the syringe? Just because of the color?
yea the color, or it looks like this
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veda_sticks
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the colour of a spore syringe is in no way an indication of spore content.
A well prepared syringe can look crystal clear yet contain more than enough spores if they have been well suspended in the solution.
Ive had a syringe do that from shipping, a little solution managed to escape. The syringe was fine.
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Shea25
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That syringe haw way to many spores in it. I prefer my syringes clear spores are microscopic so just because you can see them doesn't mean there not there. Also you did lose some in the baggie your sitting at around the 9 cc mark with the plunger
Edited by Shea25 (09/21/09 08:17 AM)
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Re: Spore syringe [Re: Shea25]
#11099121 - 09/21/09 08:21 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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more spores doesn't equal better performance.
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cloudsaregathering
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Re: Spore syringe [Re: subject]
#11099159 - 09/21/09 08:37 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah I agree that is way to many spores, surprised you can even get that out the end of the needle...
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Re: Spore syringe [Re: subject]
#11099238 - 09/21/09 09:04 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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subject said: more spores doesn't equal better performance.
I find I get the best performance from syringes that have very little spores in them. Less competition and less genetics.
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LeopardMan
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Thank you all. I feel a bit more confident now
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Poseidon
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Fewer spores doesn't mean it doesn't perform as well but it does mean you will have to use more per injection. I find with crappy low-spore syringes you will frequently get injection points that do not germinate, especially with WBS.
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I find I get the best performance from syringes that have very little spores in them.
How is that going to affect performance? =/ A spore is a spore.
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Re: Spore syringe [Re: Poseidon]
#11100748 - 09/21/09 02:30 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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more spores is not always a good thing. and to the OP use a vendor here you will never be let down
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Re: Spore syringe [Re: Poseidon]
#11100771 - 09/21/09 02:33 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Poseidon said: Fewer spores doesn't mean it doesn't perform as well but it does mean you will have to use more per injection. I find with crappy low-spore syringes you will frequently get injection points that do not germinate, especially with WBS.
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I find I get the best performance from syringes that have very little spores in them.
How is that going to affect performance? =/ A spore is a spore.
ive never had a problem with crystal clear syringes not germinating at inoculation points and thats using very little spore solution.
a spore is not a spore. not every spore is compatible with every other spore. the more spores used, the more chance of having incompatibel networks that cant join. and tahts what can hurt performance.
Haveing the least amount of ginetic varience and 1 mycelial network will perform much better than have a huge mish mash of ginetics and several mycelail networks. Each network is at a disadvantage as it does not have full use of the substrate.
In an ideal world you woudl have just 2 spores that mate and grow mycelium cabable of fruiting.
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MycoDan
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Re: Spore syringe [Re: Poseidon]
#11100773 - 09/21/09 02:34 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree with poseidon, how would it make any sense that fewer spores would work better? the more spores the less fluid you would have to use...right? i think i get what ur saying with less competition, but with more competition wouldnt the best strain dominate anyways?
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feelfunny
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Re: Spore syringe [Re: MycoDan]
#11100777 - 09/21/09 02:34 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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well you are wrong
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m00nshine
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I wouldn't worry about it being contaminated...I mean if it was sealed in a bag it's not like air got inside the bag because water came out of the syringe. IMO you're fine and should only be worried that you lost maybe a cc at most and can only do 1 less jar this time around (or LC). who cares.
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m00nshine
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I have read on here that less is more, but I don't know why. Seems that more spores would be better, but what the fuck do I know? I'm the PF guy.
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