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dkamp18
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grain suplement with whey protein
#11040972 - 09/11/09 02:25 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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afoaf recently started a grow with about a dozen 1/2 pint pf style jars. 6 different substrates were used; whole grains, rice, brf etc.
just for experiments sake, in 2 of the jars that were made with whole grain brown rice, whey protein (used for body building) was added. about 1 part per 20 parts rice.
these jars are almost 80-90% more colonized than the rest of the jars. they are almost fully colonized after only about 5 days. they have all been incubated under the same conditions; 82-84 degrees
is this just a fluke or could the experiment be onto something by supplementing with the protein.
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Re: grain suplement with whey protein [Re: dkamp18]
#11041107 - 09/11/09 02:54 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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you might be on to something
To find out for sure, make your next batch with all the same substrate and do half with protein and half without
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dkamp18
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Re: grain suplement with whey protein [Re: doug funny]
#11041154 - 09/11/09 03:05 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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thats exactly what I have started. 4 jars; 2 with whole grain brown rice, 2 with whole grain brown rice and whey protein
i used the oakridge spores. (thanx again to shroomy1)
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Re: grain suplement with whey protein [Re: dkamp18]
#11041247 - 09/11/09 03:23 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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"whey is ghey"

Seriously, aside from cost I don't see why it won't work. People keep talking about it, one of these days somebody will do it.
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Re: grain suplement with whey protein [Re: Doc_T]
#11041277 - 09/11/09 03:27 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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problem with whey is it sours too fast or all nutriton is killed during PC'ing the mix
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Re: grain suplement with whey protein [Re: mango man]
#11041328 - 09/11/09 03:36 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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you can't kill protein...
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dkamp18
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Re: grain suplement with whey protein [Re: doug funny]
#11041420 - 09/11/09 03:56 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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i will keep updating on the progress of the protein and rice cakes that are about to be birthed and the ones that r just starting to germinate.
maybe i can get some beefy mushrooms. lol.
(bad joke)
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Re: grain suplement with whey protein [Re: dkamp18]
#11041455 - 09/11/09 04:05 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Interesting.
Someone else should try this.
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Re: grain suplement with whey protein [Re: M11]
#11041472 - 09/11/09 04:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
M11 said: Interesting.
Someone else I should try this.
agreed
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Re: grain suplement with whey protein [Re: Doc_T]
#11041501 - 09/11/09 04:16 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know man. I like what I just did. I may just keep it at that.
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dkamp18
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Re: grain suplement with whey protein [Re: M11]
#11041722 - 09/11/09 04:52 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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if anyone else does try this take care to look closely at the added supplements in the protein mix.
some companys add extra ingredients that can be highly acidic or otherwise detrimental to the mycelium
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Re: grain suplement with whey protein [Re: dkamp18]
#11041961 - 09/11/09 05:47 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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If someone is going to try this it should be done with an isolate to limit the genetic variability of growth speed.
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Re: grain suplement with whey protein [Re: mushroommaan]
#11042003 - 09/11/09 05:55 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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^definitely^
i had not even thought about that. do two different isolations and put them under the the same conditions to make sure it isnt just an especially aggressive strain
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Re: grain suplement with whey protein [Re: dkamp18]
#11042048 - 09/11/09 06:04 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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once i have some fruits then i will get some clones from those, and use them to start a new batch to use in a third round of whey protein experiments.
i guess i should start clones from the ones that did not grow on a protein supplemented substrate in third round, right? and see if those colonize and fruit any better.
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Re: grain suplement with whey protein [Re: dkamp18]
#11100097 - 09/21/09 12:35 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Isolate Whey Protein is almost completely short chain proteins so it is definitely something to experiment with.
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