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Aimemailadress
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The Cheapest Grow Method
#11056055 - 09/14/09 03:03 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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now im looking for the cheapest grow method(also stuff thats pretty easy to aquire) would really love your input on the method you use too
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Shroominit
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PF Tek is by FAR the cheapest. You could get it all going for $30-40 including spores.
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chobumms
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Re: The Cheapest Grow Method [Re: Shroominit]
#11056068 - 09/14/09 03:15 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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A glove box is a good investment I like to include in costs. about 7 to 12 dollars at walmart and cut holes for arms. It cuts down on contams. I like to PC everything. Just boiling it seems like it is half ass, but I know it works, by seeing others. It's just not for me though. I've spent like over 4000 on this hobby though. I want a second AA941 soon.
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AceOfShrooms
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Feed some spores to those African elephants you got over there.
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veda_sticks
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pf tek is hands down the cheapest. A glovebox can be made from a cardboard box with cling film as a nice very see through lid.
For fruiting a shotgun is prefered but if your just doing a few cakes, 2 litre soda bottles work great or milk jugs.
I like the soda bottles because you can cut the top part of just at the right point so it fits snuggly inside of the bottle and you stuff the opening with polyfill. Air exchange can be given by pumping the bottle.
A pressure cooker really isnt required for the PF tek. If you steam sterilise properly you can get a 99% success rate easily. Make sure to time from when steam starts escaping the lid. When i do it to be sure i do 2 hours from when the water gets to a boil, that way my jars definatly get upto temp and get the full 90 minutes at 100C
Just pay particular attention to sterile procedures
www.mushroomvideos.com and watch the pf tek videos
-------------------- PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666 Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek
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Re: The Cheapest Grow Method [Re: veda_sticks]
#11056257 - 09/14/09 06:27 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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i know i haven't been around for a while, but since when the hell would you need a glovebox for PF tek? lawl
if you contam a cake through a 1mm hole, you suck :-P
*waves at veda* long time no see
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Nibin
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Read the newcomers guide. Link in my sig or the sticky on the main mushroom cultivation forum page.
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13shrooms
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Re: The Cheapest Grow Method [Re: Nibin]
#11056598 - 09/14/09 08:55 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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click on the "easier than cubes" link in my sig.
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pftizzy.
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HaRo On KoRn
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Re: The Cheapest Grow Method [Re: prismism]
#11056657 - 09/14/09 09:14 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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cheapest way is not to do it at all 2nd cheapest way is to find mushroom put cap in ur yard water once a while
also if u use cups instead of jars u saved your self 10 bucks
and go to the dollar stor for tin foil ceran wrap baggys thermometor hand santizer gehtteo lysol gloves aluminum pans permente markers any thang else
and by the way tin foil from dollar store sucks and not one zip lock will be air tight
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veda_sticks
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Re: The Cheapest Grow Method [Re: anarchOi]
#11056665 - 09/14/09 09:16 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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anarchOi said: i know i haven't been around for a while, but since when the hell would you need a glovebox for PF tek? lawl
if you contam a cake through a 1mm hole, you suck :-P
*waves at veda* long time no see
Some can get away with it but not everyone. I tried and had a 90% failure rate no matter how carefull I was and that was in a small room with no noticable drafts.
If your working with spore prints I recomend 1 even more. It only takes a tiny amount of contaminants to fuck it up. Makes even more sense if your doing things cheaply as you want to ensure you have a high success rate.
I love my glovebox, its cardboard is pretty big and very easy to work in.
-------------------- PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666 Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek
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Re: The Cheapest Grow Method [Re: veda_sticks]
#11056687 - 09/14/09 09:22 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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my glove box is 10 gal tank with cran wrap lid
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Aimemailadress
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Sweet Thanks so much for all the advise!! what can you use instead of rice flour, that's still cheap? will ordinary flour work? I couldnt find any over here, or mayby maize flour?
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veda_sticks
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you need brown rice flour, white rice flour is a poor substrate choice. It basically has all the good nuitritious part of the grain removed.
Buy brown rice and grind it to a flour using a coffee grinder. A blender works but yoiu have to filter out the peices that dont get ground and leave them in for the next batch. its a pain but works.
-------------------- PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666 Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek
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Aimemailadress
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Re: The Cheapest Grow Method [Re: veda_sticks]
#11093769 - 09/20/09 09:17 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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o sweet!! ill try that dont have a coffee grinder, i got a blender i normally use for making drinks and crushing ice, that should work fine right? just a little worried that it might damage my machine, or am i just being silly?
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Chasawah
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I made a thread yesterday with an itemized startup cost. I just watched the 4 Lets grow PF tek, videos on youtube and got what he got, and i plan on doing what he does. Probly going to smog a walkin closet with lysol and use it to inoc and stuff once it settles...
My setup cost me alittle under 60 bucks, everything i needhttp://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11093017/gonew/1#UNREAD
From what ive seen all u need is brown rice flour or rye, put it in a cup or jar, steralize it, then inoculate it, then colonize, and sprout.. So I guess if you... have a syrenge... and a cup and some tin foil a pot to boil with for sani.... you can start for basicly free. Spore cost and cost of whatever substrate you choose and whatever moisture holder you use for he FC... i guess it could be as cheap as 15 bucks if your willing to have a sketchy result rate
Theres a video on youtube where a kid is useing PF tek and he does it fast and sloppy and it has great results, he used a normal cup and foil, his start cost was probly 30-40 with spore cost
edit- your being silly i bought a 14 dollar coffie grinder, it instantly made it into flour, im sure a blender with 4 or 5 times the brute force
Edited by Chasawah (09/20/09 09:31 AM)
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anakin3197
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Re: The Cheapest Grow Method [Re: Chasawah]
#11094023 - 09/20/09 10:34 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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i dont see how people think that pf is the cheapest way to go. brf=8$, verm=5$, perlite=6$, container at walmart=8$ for a grand total of $27.
wbs 1lb for 2$ or 5 for 5$, verm=$5, container at walmart=$8, coir=$4, for a grand total $19-23. best of all if you cant find the coir you can use manure to spawn too which is usually free, if you know where to look. but its not as simple as pf
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Quote:
AceOfShrooms said: Feed some spores to those African elephants you got over there.
The guy is in Johannesburg, the crime capital of the world...
I'm from Mossel Bay, the chillest in the country...
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whyblameus
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Re: The Cheapest Grow Method [Re: anakin3197]
#11094222 - 09/20/09 11:22 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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anakin3197 said: i dont see how people think that pf is the cheapest way to go. brf=8$, verm=5$, perlite=6$, container at walmart=8$ for a grand total of $27.
wbs 1lb for 2$ or 5 for 5$, verm=$5, container at walmart=$8, coir=$4, for a grand total $19-23. best of all if you cant find the coir you can use manure to spawn too which is usually free, if you know where to look. but its not as simple as pf
you will de needing a PC for the wbs so you'll need another 40 dollars to start. it depends if you are going for ease and not yield. for ease go with pf tek.for yield go with wbs spawned to coir.cause with pf tek you will most likely get 1-2 ounces from an eight dollar container and with wbs you shouldn't get any less than 4 ounces from the same container. but the average is around 6 ounces per 8 dollar container.also it only takes 6 quarts of wbs to spawn to a brick of coir to fill the 1 tub.i think you would need 3-5 8 dolor containers to equal the same yield using pf tek. so i think that dramatic difference is worth the 40 dollars for the PC. its kinda a personal choice that you have to make on your own. i hope his helped you out some.good luck.
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anakin3197
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Re: The Cheapest Grow Method [Re: whyblameus]
#11094864 - 09/20/09 01:42 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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i was assuming that he already had a pc, i couldnt of been wrong, thank you for adding that bit that i overlooked. you will also need the pc for your lcs that you was asking about in another post.
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