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OfflinePooGrower
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Would this idea eliminate air born contams??
    #1109324 - 12/04/02 09:40 AM (15 years, 14 days ago)

My idea is when im mixing my substrate for pf tek using brf and verm OUTSIDE ON MY PATIO TABLE and putting it in the jars OUTSIDE foil the lid and then go inside to sterilize. By the way its 20 degrees out there but im willing to do it if it will reduce any chance of contam. WILL THIS REDUCE OR ELIMINATE AIR BORN CONTAMS?


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InvisibleBilge
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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1109337 - 12/04/02 09:44 AM (15 years, 14 days ago)

my opinion is no. in fact your chances of contams increase. the freezing temps won't kill many spores that could germinate in your substrate. and chances are there are more of those spores outdoors and the air outdoors is moving more than it is indoors. but that's just my opinion.


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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: Bilge]
    #1109352 - 12/04/02 09:49 AM (15 years, 14 days ago)

Is this question real??
Surely you can`t think that because its` cold that it will make a difference?
Outside is outside.


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OfflinePooGrower
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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #1109360 - 12/04/02 09:54 AM (15 years, 14 days ago)

Im not saying that since its cold outside it will kill the contam
What im saying is the temp in my house is 75 and plus from household items plus being a human being and constantly emitting contams from breathing etc. wouldnt there be less contams in the clean fresh country air?????


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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1109363 - 12/04/02 09:55 AM (15 years, 14 days ago)

I agree with Bilge that the cold will not be enough to kill any contaminations. You are going to sterilize your jars anyway so why bother?


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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1109365 - 12/04/02 09:59 AM (15 years, 14 days ago)

"clean fresh country air" is full of contams. contams (specifically spores) don't just appear from nowhere. most of them come from outside in the natural environment and are brought inside, not vice versa.


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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: Bilge]
    #1109381 - 12/04/02 10:07 AM (15 years, 14 days ago)

Thats a good point, i guess im just gonna lysol and bleach the whole kitchen


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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1109426 - 12/04/02 10:26 AM (15 years, 14 days ago)

Bathroom?


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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1109463 - 12/04/02 10:46 AM (15 years, 14 days ago)

Stick to what works it's not that much more work.

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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1109473 - 12/04/02 10:50 AM (15 years, 14 days ago)

Before this post goes away I'd like you to think about it like this, The cold doesn't kill contams. There all still there it's just molds and stuff can't grow in that cold so as soon as the contams get on your substrate and jars and you bring it inside they'll come back to life and find a home in your jars when there warm enough.


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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: user_exists]
    #1109729 - 12/04/02 01:24 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

dawg gots a point...its gonna get sterilized so it only matters when innoculating and i wouldn't take a syringe outside...


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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1109835 - 12/04/02 02:23 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

This question has already been answered. And yes, the outside is no safer, especially with wind and all the stuff that's out there. But did you know that inside can be up to 5 times more pollutant than outside. Since you're constantly just recirculating air and always bringing in more "nasties." But that's why we have filters on our AC.


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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: ExtravagantDream]
    #1109998 - 12/04/02 03:20 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

I put together a little glove box using 1X1 and that 3MIl plastic sheeting I made the box put the plastic over it and under with two sheets of plastic in the front and just wear Rubber gloves and spray it all down with lysol before. I have not seen any contams yet. once your done just take your little box fold it up and put it in the closet. Easy and cheap.


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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1110537 - 12/04/02 05:54 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

contams a problem for you ? Not me !!!
Oven tek , thank you drive thru ......................


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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: Becomezen]
    #1110591 - 12/04/02 06:13 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Temperature does affect how many contams there are outside. Lots of contams cant survive in cold temperature and prefer a hot humid environment. Just make a glovebox out of a cardboard box.


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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1110601 - 12/04/02 06:17 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

It don't mater your are going to ( sterilize.) Now think about your question,
and all of you that answered it


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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1110614 - 12/04/02 06:20 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

extravagant dream has a valid point.

contaminants accumulate in your house much more readily than they do outside.
outside, moisture levels cause spores to germinate.  rain washes everything.  the wind is rife with spores, but the inside of your house is moreso, unless you have a huge hepa for the whole house, have no pets, have nop carpet and clean yourself thorougly a hundred times a day.

i only posted cuz some people seem incredulous about the possibility of the outside being cleaner than the inside.

the whole discussion, tho, is moot.      pc'c dont allow that stuff to bother us.
i want a big autoclave.
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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1110790 - 12/04/02 07:16 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Tell me if I'm being a bit over the top people but myself, as well as MANY other folk have offered very good advice to PooGrower in the past. He doesn't appear to have read ANY TEKS AT ALL nor has he followed ANYONES advice !

READ THE FAQ's and THE TEK's PLEASE !!! They WORK !


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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: PooGrower]
    #1110837 - 12/04/02 07:33 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Two words: Oven Tek.


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Re: Would this idea eliminate air born contams?? [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1110860 - 12/04/02 07:41 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

just do it indoors man. All you really have to do is spray a bunch of lysol in the room and let it settle so you can hardly smell it. Lysol and other aerosol sprays of the sort kill 99.9% mold, mildew, germs etc. for a period of 24 hours. Use that shit in the room and you have a .1% chance of airborn contamination.


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