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I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting:
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And saying:

Try and explain THIS away...

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: The Centre]
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Photoshop?

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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Haha, thats awesome :thumbup:


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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: The Centre]
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pshhhhhh

it's a work of Satan obviously


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    classic LOVELINE

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: Set]
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It's shroomin Jesus, hell yeah!

Set said:
pshhhhhh

it's a work of Satan obviously




How do you know Satan is not the God they speak of, how do they know? After all they say Satan can be awfully deceiving.


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Dr :ronpaul: says to stop trying to treat the side-effects of big government and focus on the core issues. End the Federal Reserve/audit the gold reserves at Fort Knox, abolish the IRS, end all wars and occupancies, stop the building of an empire that will inevitably fail, and cut all unconstitutional federal programs. Put the power back in the peoples' hands by ending this nanny-state.

Edited by highdroponics (09/17/09 11:27 AM)

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: highdroponics]
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Where did you find this? Is it documented in any way? Cause its sweet.

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: The Centre]
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The Centre said:


And saying:

Try and explain THIS away...



it looks like a sewer and a jesus lid is going to cover over the fungus. once you open up through jesus, you will find your soul heading towards drugs.

BAM


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If there were no rewards to reap,No loving embrace to see me through
This tedious path I've chosen here,I certainly would've walked away by now.
Gonna wait it out.
If there were no desire to heal The damaged and broken met along
This tedious path I've chosen hereI certainly would've walked away by now.
And I still may ... (sigh) ... I still may.Be patient.
I must keep reminding myself of this.

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: highdroponics]
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highdroponics said:
It's shroomin Jesus, hell yeah!

Set said:
pshhhhhh

it's a work of Satan obviously




How do you know Satan is not the God they speak of, how do they know? After all they say Satan can be awfully deceiving.



:uhoh:

you must work for Satan too


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    classic LOVELINE

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: Set]
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so what are the christian forums sayin?


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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: PartyMarty4000]
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PartyMarty4000 said:
so what are the christian forums sayin?



yeah, you must keep us posted


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MY HAIR IS A BIRD 
YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID


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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: PartyMarty4000]
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PartyMarty4000 said:
so what are the christian forums sayin?




it doesnt matter when he's trolling, it just matters that he
posted some obscure picture and told them to explain it

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: The Centre]
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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: The Centre]
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The Centre said:


And saying:

Try and explain THIS away...



I would concur and cite scripture...

Manna

Then said the LORD unto Moses, Behold, I will vain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather a certain rate every day, that I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law or no (16:4).

And when the dew that lay was gone up, behold, upon the face of the wilderness there lay a small round thing, as small as the hoar frost on the ground (16:14)... This is the bread which the Lord hath given you to eat.


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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: stedenko]
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stedenko said:
I would concur and cite scripture...

Manna

Then said the LORD unto Moses, Behold, I will vain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather a certain rate every day, that I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law or no (16:4).

And when the dew that lay was gone up, behold, upon the face of the wilderness there lay a small round thing, as small as the hoar frost on the ground (16:14)... This is the bread which the Lord hath given you to eat.



I've never found a psilocybe that tasted like honey

Numbers 11:7 Now the manna was like zera gad [coriander seed], and its appearance as the appearance of bedolach.

Exodus 16:31 And the house of Israel called the name thereof Manna: and it was like coriander seed, white; and the taste of it was like wafers made with honey.

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: The Centre]
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I got banned in a second at every single one...

Proves the whole thing that they wouldn't even enter into debate, and just denounce me as blasphemous...

Edited by The Centre (09/17/09 12:09 PM)

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: The Centre]
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The Centre said:
I got banned in a second at every single one...



LMAO


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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
stedenko said:
I would concur and cite scripture...

Manna

Then said the LORD unto Moses, Behold, I will vain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather a certain rate every day, that I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law or no (16:4).

And when the dew that lay was gone up, behold, upon the face of the wilderness there lay a small round thing, as small as the hoar frost on the ground (16:14)... This is the bread which the Lord hath given you to eat.



I've never found a psilocybe that tasted like honey

Numbers 11:7 Now the manna was like zera gad [coriander seed], and its appearance as the appearance of bedolach.

Exodus 16:31 And the house of Israel called the name thereof Manna: and it was like coriander seed, white; and the taste of it was like wafers made with honey.



I'll be damned, never happened across that translation...

EDIT

We should go to israel shroom hunting sometime. Psilocybe Mannanensis var. Stedenkunensis


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Edited by stedenko (09/17/09 12:11 PM)

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Yeah, psilocybes aren't native to Egypt are they?


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If you build it they will shrug.
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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: stedenko]
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You do know mushrooms where often put in honey...

It is the most tasty way to eat it...

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: JPmagic]
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Just leave the christians alone. What do you hope to accomplish? Let people believe what they will.

Besides, that painting proves nothing.


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Looking for Astrophytum asterias specimens; have cacti for trade :pm:

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: satyr]
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They probably wouldn't even make the connection between magic mushrooms and the painting - it probably looks random to them.

Now black Jesus on the other hand...



So why would a baby born in the middle east have blond hair like they show on Fox News?


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"I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man" - Thomas Jefferson

Legalize Meth | Drug War Victims

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: The Centre]
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syrian rue?

amanitas?

poppies?

and psilocybe?

Is that (pretty much) what's represented?


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I am on a drug. It's called Charlie Sheen. It's not available because if you try it once, you will die. Your face will melt off and your children will weep over your exploded body

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: The Centre]
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The Centre said:
You do know mushrooms where often put in honey...

It is the most tasty way to eat it...




why did i never think of that?


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If there were no rewards to reap,No loving embrace to see me through
This tedious path I've chosen here,I certainly would've walked away by now.
Gonna wait it out.
If there were no desire to heal The damaged and broken met along
This tedious path I've chosen hereI certainly would've walked away by now.
And I still may ... (sigh) ... I still may.Be patient.
I must keep reminding myself of this.

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
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Swyfty Swyf said:
Yeah, psilocybes aren't native to Egypt are they?



how many mushrooms grow in deserts, it's something I've asked repeatedly

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: The Centre]
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The Centre said:
You do know mushrooms where often put in honey...

It is the most tasty way to eat it...




it said they tasted like honey, not that they mixed them with honey
I dont recall the bible mentioning moses lugging around a bunch of bee
hives through the desert

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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RoosterCogburn said:
Photoshop?



No.

I saw that pic many years ago, way before Photoshop was invented


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Live for the moment you are in now
Don't be bogged down by your past
Don't be afraid of what lies in your future

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: The Centre]
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The Centre said:
I got banned in a second at every single one...

Proves the whole thing that they wouldn't even enter into debate, and just denounce me as blasphemous...




you offered nothing for discussion, you posted a picture that comes from
sources like trippytraveller.com, atlanteanconspiracy.com and
metahistory.org, there's nothing denoting the plate came from a
religious text, just that someone likes photoshop

hell, I'd have banned you too

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: batheinthefountain]
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batheinthefountain said:





other than http://www.ultrafeel.tv/, where was the pic sourced

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Yeah, what is that picture from?

It was referenced in the Pharmacratic Inquisition,

and the narrators said the same thing Mchaggis was asking about,

that the four mushrooms/plants represent P. cubensis (white), Syrian Rue (orange), Poppy (purple), and A. muscaria (red).

I was skeptical of that and many other things within that documentary.


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If you build it they will shrug.
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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
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Swyfty Swyf said:
Yeah, what is that pick from?



since they dont seem to know

it's the Paris Eadwine Psalter, recently labeled 'the tree of knowledge'
created in the 11th century and it has some lovely pictars in it and
some dumbass druggies see the mushrooms and immediately attribute this
stuff to the christian religion regardless of whether they know the name



http://libraries.slu.edu/archives/digcoll/mssexhibit07/manuscripts/anglo.html

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
Swyfty Swyf said:
Yeah, psilocybes aren't native to Egypt are they?



how many mushrooms grow in deserts, it's something I've asked repeatedly



they found this "thing" after they left egypt, while in the "wilderness"


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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
you posted a picture that comes from
sources like trippytraveller.com, atlanteanconspiracy.com and
metahistory.org, there's nothing denoting the plate came from a
religious text, just that someone likes photoshop




I can assure you that the pix was not photoshoped.
I saw it in a book on religion way back in the mid '70s
I just can't recall the source at the moment


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Live for the moment you are in now
Don't be bogged down by your past
Don't be afraid of what lies in your future

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: stedenko]
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Did you get any actual responses or rebuttals?

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: stedenko]
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the found it in the exodus from egypt, anything outside of civilization
was wilderness, of course eating magic mushrooms would explain why they
wandered around the desert for 40 years and moses talked with a burning
bush for a week


anyway, here's the edawine psalter

http://libraries.slu.edu/archives/digcoll/mssexhibit07/manuscripts/eadwine.html

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: niteowl]
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niteowl said:
Prisoner#1 said:
you posted a picture that comes from
sources like trippytraveller.com, atlanteanconspiracy.com and
metahistory.org, there's nothing denoting the plate came from a
religious text, just that someone likes photoshop




I can assure you that the pix was not photoshoped.
I saw it in a book on religion way back in the mid '70s
I just can't recall the source at the moment



I'm actually very familiar with the book it originated from, I'm also
aware of druggie lust to claim all things drug related to be depicted in
religion

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
Swyfty Swyf said:
Yeah, what is that pick from?



since they dont seem to know

it's the Paris Eadwine Psalter, recently labeled 'the tree of knowledge'
created in the 11th century and it has some lovely pictars in it and
some dumbass druggies see the mushrooms and immediately attribute this
stuff to the christian religion regardless of whether they know the name



http://libraries.slu.edu/archives/digcoll/mssexhibit07/manuscripts/anglo.html



Just looking at the pic I would say "peter, crucified upside down" :facepalm: Glad I didnt post that.


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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Oh, so it was illustrated around 1100 AD by an Englishman.

That explains the mushrooms (and they all four look like mushrooms, not flowers).


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If you build it they will shrug.
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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
niteowl said:
Prisoner#1 said:
you posted a picture that comes from
sources like trippytraveller.com, atlanteanconspiracy.com and
metahistory.org, there's nothing denoting the plate came from a
religious text, just that someone likes photoshop




I can assure you that the pix was not photoshoped.
I saw it in a book on religion way back in the mid '70s
I just can't recall the source at the moment



I'm actually very familiar with the book it originated from, I'm also
aware of druggie lust to claim all things drug related to be depicted in
religion



I remember my grandmother showing it to me, claiming they were some kind of trees.
I knew nothing of drugs at the time, so I didn't question her about them.


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Live for the moment you are in now
Don't be bogged down by your past
Don't be afraid of what lies in your future

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: niteowl]
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niteowl said:
I remember my grandmother showing it to me, claiming they were some kind of trees.
I knew nothing of drugs at the time, so I didn't question her about them.



your grandmother was apparently right because if you look through other
plates including the large one posted, you'll see all the trees look like
mushrooms

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Pff, that was just the artist's way of showing us how important mushrooms are to Christianity.

One day, every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess that mushrooms are holy.


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If you build it they will shrug.
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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
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seems that back then either people were only the size of smurfs or mushrooms were fucking huge

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Edited by oxalic32 (12/19/10 09:38 PM)

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: The Centre]
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The Centre said:


And saying:

Try and explain THIS away...




The mushrooms I had heard about  - but I had NO idea Jesus and the Angels were into baseball!!


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We have not even to risk the adventure alone, for the heroes of all time have gone before us — the labyrinth is thoroughly known. We have only to follow the thread of the hero path, and where we had thought to find an abomination, we shall find a god; where we had thought to slay another, we shall slay ourselves; where we had thought to travel outward, we shall come to the center of our own existence. And where we had thought to be alone, we shall be with all the world.

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Edited by oxalic32 (12/19/10 09:38 PM)

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: niteowl]
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This is by NO means a common text...its just a book ...there are lots of books out there w/ crazy pictures right now. And moreover books from those times (date seems vague)  commonly picture all sorts of wild, fantastical stuff. In 700 years people will be looking at those pictures and saying "AHA  - these people ALL worshiped a deity called ' Brad Pitt'.  Just because it was printed or drawn and involves Jesus DOES not make it a seminal text. Unless you find a text COMMONLY used and recognized you have no smoking gun.  The mana stuff sounds good and very well be true (I think so)  BUT you cant claim b/c you found pictures of an old random text that the ENTIRE religion was at some point based on mushrooms. Thats bad scholarship. AND if it somehow was, it certainly is not now. I can't imagine you wil find many Christians who claim their religion is unchanged anywhere  - outside of Ethiopia.  I can sense the guys over at the Something Awful site getting ready to do a "Shroomery Wisdom" part 2 on this.


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We have not even to risk the adventure alone, for the heroes of all time have gone before us — the labyrinth is thoroughly known. We have only to follow the thread of the hero path, and where we had thought to find an abomination, we shall find a god; where we had thought to slay another, we shall slay ourselves; where we had thought to travel outward, we shall come to the center of our own existence. And where we had thought to be alone, we shall be with all the world.

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: Radar]
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You talkin ta me

I never said anything about seeing it in a common text
just that my grandmother showed it to me many years ago


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Live for the moment you are in now
Don't be bogged down by your past
Don't be afraid of what lies in your future

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: Mchaggis]
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Mchaggis said:
syrian rue?

amanitas?

poppies?

and psilocybe?

Is that (pretty much) what's represented?



And cannabis. (The green vine like structure. If considering weaving that makes perfect sense.)

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Re: I'm going to random Christian forums, registering and posting: [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
The Centre said:
You do know mushrooms where often put in honey...

It is the most tasty way to eat it...




it said they tasted like honey, not that they mixed them with honey
I dont recall the bible mentioning moses lugging around a bunch of bee
hives through the desert



Ever considered that EVERY SINGLE BIBLE until around 200 years ago was WRITTEN BY HAND. Also, consider that this is also a translation... Now, if just say 20 words in the entire bible was made slightly different each time it was written, (and considering the size of the book, that is quite a modest number.) the stuff can have a quite different meaning to it...

Also, one thing I'm wondering, is this whole argument that they couldn't have came across mushrooms in the desert, well how did they come across morning dew in a place with such a low amount of water? In any case, Desert could be a metaphor for hardship. It is very unlikely that they walked in an actual desert for 40 years.

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