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Invisibledaussaulit
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Straight Honey
    #1106919 - 12/03/02 01:35 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Can you use straight honey instead of honey water?

Also I was wondering if you could just dump honey straight on your cake to give it nutrients to prolong the life, would it work or kill it? Natural, unprocessed honey is bactericidal so it shouldn't cause any contam problems.


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Re: Straight Honey [Re: daussaulit]
    #1106926 - 12/03/02 01:38 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

NO


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Re: Straight Honey [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #1106930 - 12/03/02 01:40 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I know this is crazy but honey and verm mix for casing or bulk substrate I don't think I'll be testing that but some crazy thought this thread provoked.


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Re: Straight Honey [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #1106963 - 12/03/02 02:00 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Is there a reason it doesn't work?


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Re: Straight Honey [Re: user_exists]
    #1106964 - 12/03/02 02:00 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

ummm... nutritive things in casing layers, is like smoking at the gas pump....


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Re: Straight Honey [Re: daussaulit]
    #1106994 - 12/03/02 02:14 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

>Is there a reason it doesn't work?
Yes.

It?s much too concentrated, nothing grows on pure honey.


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Re: Straight Honey [Re: Anno]
    #1107012 - 12/03/02 02:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

so what's the most potent honey too water ratio you could make?


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Re: Straight Honey [Re: user_exists]
    #1107024 - 12/03/02 02:24 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

After reading a webpage about honey, it still holds it's bactericidal properties at a 30% concentration in a Muller-Hinton medium.


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Re: Straight Honey [Re: daussaulit]
    #1110593 - 12/04/02 06:14 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

if i were better, i'd find a link to post with this, but....

there is a clear death limit established for the mycelium of our favorite mushroom and the concentrations of sugars. too much sugar is just...bad.
also, contams are not all bacteria. trichoderma comes to mind first.

besides, for making mycelia water a few spoonfuls is good enough. as for adding nutrition to the cakes, why not follow some dunking teks with weak solutions of honey, or honey and 200:1 bleach ala hippie? report back to us on the dunking......


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