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Hmm What is spawn
    #1106815 - 12/03/02 12:57 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

what does it mean to use something for spawn, i just don't get it


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Re: Hmm What is spawn [Re: shroomizzy]
    #1106845 - 12/03/02 01:06 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

you use one jar of conlonized birdseed (lets say) so *spawn* a tub of dung... meaning you use that one jar of colonized birdseed to colonize the tub of dung.


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Re: Hmm What is spawn [Re: shroomizzy]
    #1106863 - 12/03/02 01:14 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

For our purposes here, spawn is used to inoculate a bulk substrate. For instance, I use grated pf cakes to inoculate(spawn) millet and wheat berries in quart jars. I then use this colonized millet and wheat to inoculate(spawn) horse poo/wheat straw bulk substrate. Does that make any sense. I'm at a loss right now to explain it any better. I'm sure someone else will pipe up with a better explanation.

It allows you to increase the amount of colonized substrate by transferring from one form to another.
1 pf cake can spawn 4-5 quart jars of millet or rye or wheat, and each one of those jars can spawn 2 gallons of bulk substrate. So by spawning, one pf cake can inoculate up to ten gallons of bulk substrate such as horse poo/wheat straw.
These numbers are based on my experience and may not be wholly accurate as a general rule, but you get the point, I hope.




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Re: Hmm What is spawn [Re: Loop_Theorist]
    #1106870 - 12/03/02 01:15 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Basically yes.
Spawn can be any colonised substrate that you mix with another substrate usually a bulk substrate and let it colonise.
This process is known as spawning.
So spawn could be anything from millet to rye to brown rice to woodchips.
It could even be the spawned substrate being spawned further into more substrate.
G2g transfering is also spawning substrates to creat more substrate.


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Re: Hmm What is spawn [Re: shroomizzy]
    #1106990 - 12/03/02 02:13 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Hmm What is spawn [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #1123735 - 12/09/02 03:03 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

If I have a brown rice PF cake, can I transfer that into another substance like grains or liquids?

I was thinking about using one of my PF cakes to innoculate bulk spawns to make more. And reading these boards I'm thinking of trying out Rye, and maybe even a liquid spawn for fast innoculation.

So could I cut up my fully colonized brown rice/vermiculite cake and put it into a couple different materials?(rye or liquid)

Or should I break up and soak my cake in water and innoculate from the Mycel water?


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Re: Hmm What is spawn [Re: Robo182]
    #1123919 - 12/09/02 04:27 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

>I was thinking about using one of my PF cakes to innoculate bulk spawns to make more.

Has been done.
Read www.shroomery.org/logs.php


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Re: Hmm What is spawn [Re: Anno]
    #1124016 - 12/09/02 06:17 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

That`s how I did my first bulk tub.


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Re: Hmm What is spawn [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #6620197 - 02/28/07 02:23 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

So I can/should CASE only after SPAWNING my original colonization substrate with something else to add mycelium mass?

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Re: Hmm What is spawn [Re: gilrand]
    #6620231 - 02/28/07 02:33 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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So I can/should CASE only after SPAWNING my original colonization substrate with something else to add mycelium mass?

//Gilrand




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Re: Hmm What is spawn [Re: HippieChick]
    #6620301 - 02/28/07 02:57 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Spawn as a noun is the grains or other material such as brf cakes that are fully colonized with mushroom mycelium.

Spawn as a verb is the act of placing those fully colonized grains into another uncolonized substrate for the purposes of expanding mycelium mass.

Spawn as an adjective is used to qualify a noun. Thus when used as "the spawned substrate", substrate is the noun and spawned is the adjective form of the word spawn.
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Re: Hmm What is spawn [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6620348 - 02/28/07 03:08 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Don't mean to nit pick RR , but spawn , as a noun is "the mycelium of mushrooms" ,.Doesn't say anything about grains or cakes , that's just the most common way to create it here .:grin:

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Re: Hmm What is spawn [Re: HippieChick]
    #6620433 - 02/28/07 03:30 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Don't mean to nit pick RR , but spawn , as a noun is "the mycelium of mushrooms"




Incorrect. The mycelium of mushrooms is 'mycelium'. Spawn is the colonized grains or other medium the 'mycelium of mushrooms' is growing on.
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Re: Hmm What is spawn [Re: HippieChick]
    #6620502 - 02/28/07 03:49 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

:grin: Ahhhh hell, just think of spawn as "semen".:grin:
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Re: Hmm What is spawn [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6621740 - 02/28/07 09:20 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
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HippieChick said:
Don't mean to nit pick RR , but spawn , as a noun is "the mycelium of mushrooms" 




Incorrect.  The mycelium of mushrooms is 'mycelium'.  Spawn is the colonized grains or other medium the 'mycelium of mushrooms' is growing on.
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spawn      /spɔn/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[spawn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation,
–noun 1. Zoology. the mass of eggs deposited by fishes, amphibians, mollusks, crustaceans, etc. 
2. Mycology. the mycelium of mushrooms, esp. of the species grown for the market. 
3. a swarming brood; numerous progeny. 
4. (used with a singular or plural verb) any person or thing regarded as the offspring of some stock, idea, etc. 
–verb (used without object) 5. to deposit eggs or sperm directly into the water, as fishes. 
–verb (used with object) 6. to produce (spawn). 
7. to give birth to; give rise to: His sudden disappearance spawned many rumors. 
8. to produce in large number. 
9. to plant with mycelium. 


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[Origin: 1350–1400; ME spawnen (v.), prob. < AF espaundre (OF espandre) to expand]



Stamet's defines it as " the aggregation of mycelium" on a carrier material which is usually used to inoculate prepared substrates . , in the TMC glossary .


Sorry once again:grin:

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Re: Hmm What is spawn [Re: HippieChick]
    #6622234 - 02/28/07 11:34 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Stamet's defines it as " the aggregation of mycelium" on a carrier material which is usually used to inoculate prepared substrates . , in the TMC glossary .





Bingo. Go with stamets and me. The other definition is incorrect.
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