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Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan
    #11064305 - 09/15/09 04:28 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

our generals are addicted to asking for more money
why cant they ever estimate the cost accurately in the first place
its not like they low ball it
this is the typical american way
just like what we did with the native americans
first we had them sign the paper stating we can have a little bit of land
then came back asking for more, then more, more and more til we had more than them
thats how we roll, we just snowball it
its because we assume everybody is shortsighted so we just ask for little increments at a time and eventually get a huge massive amount that know body would have approved in the first place


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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: Coaster]
    #11064446 - 09/15/09 04:53 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

the guy speaking is a dumbass.
he says uuuuuuhhhh every sentence he stated.
and takes 3 second brakes for a new one.
you can also see the expression on his face that he is straining his brain.


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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: elementswrath]
    #11064743 - 09/15/09 05:45 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

elementswrath said:
the guy speaking is a dumbass.
he says uuuuuuhhhh every sentence he stated.
and takes 3 second brakes for a new one.
you can also see the expression on his face that he is straining his brain.




I didn't watch the vid, but when calling someone a dumbass you should at least know the difference between "brakes" and "breaks".

Let's not even discuss your inability to formulate a sentence.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #11064784 - 09/15/09 05:52 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

brake - anything that has a slowing or stopping effect

i.e. his brain


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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: Coaster]
    #11064835 - 09/15/09 06:01 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Coaster said:
thats how we roll, we just snowball it
its because we assume everybody is shortsighted so we just ask for little increments at a time and eventually get a huge massive amount that know body would have approved in the first place




Particularly when the Taliban offered to hand Bin Laden over to the US if they offered proof of his guilt.

too much to ask?:shrug:

Plus if people knew how much the Afghanistan war was gonna cost (or wars in general) I doubt they would've went for Iraq. I still remember Cheney saying that the US would be in and out of there in 6 months tops. LOL


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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: Coaster]
    #11065233 - 09/15/09 07:13 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Coaster said:
brake - anything that has a slowing or stopping effect

i.e. his brain




You should buy a dictionary.


3 : to interrupt one's activity or occupation for a brief period <break for lunch>


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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: ScavengerType]
    #11065250 - 09/15/09 07:17 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

That's a good joke, the Taliban offered to hand over their hero! If anyone would bother to look, they would find a video confession from BL himself! Also nobody from the Bush Administration said it would be easy in Iraq! If someone wants to be a revolutionary, use facts.


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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #11065384 - 09/15/09 07:45 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

elementswrath said:
the guy speaking is a dumbass.
he says uuuuuuhhhh every sentence he stated.
and takes 3 second brakes for a new one.
you can also see the expression on his face that he is straining his brain.




I didn't watch the vid, but when calling someone a dumbass you should at least know the difference between "brakes" and "breaks".

Let's not even your inability to formulate a sentence.




ah you got me there.
as you can see my emotion it says messed up.


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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: Coaster]
    #11065449 - 09/15/09 07:59 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Coaster said:
this is the typical american way
just like what we did with the native americans
first we had them sign the paper stating we can have a little bit of land
then came back asking for more, then more, more and more til we had more than them




WE didnt do any of that except through inaction, that is an act of THEM,
the government, the same government that now wants to feed more troops
to the guns, the same government that so many americans are supporting
based on the big lie told us, by THEM. so until WE as a people get out
collective heads out of our asses and stop supporting THEM, this is what
WE will continue to see

you want the war to end? dont support government, vote out the
incumbents, stop praising the 'chosen one' and hold him as accountable
as you want to hold bush


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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: elementswrath]
    #11065486 - 09/15/09 08:09 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

elementswrath said:
the guy speaking is a dumbass.
he says uuuuuuhhhh every sentence he stated.
and takes 3 second brakes for a new one.
you can also see the expression on his face that he is straining his brain.



He might just have a slight speech impdiment.

And as for the surprise nature of this, didn't Obama campaign on the idea of putting more troops into Afghanistan?


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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11065530 - 09/15/09 08:19 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:


WE didnt do any of that except through inaction, that is an act of THEM,
the government, the same government that now wants to feed more troops
to the guns, the same government that so many americans are supporting
based on the big lie told us, by THEM. so until WE as a people get out
collective heads out of our asses and stop supporting THEM, this is what
WE will continue to see

you want the war to end? dont support government, vote out the
incumbents, stop praising the 'chosen one' and hold him as accountable
as you want to hold bush




:rofl2:

Right....if Obama sends more military troops to the middle east once AGAIN,


he will just blame it on bush once AGAIN!


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We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: Chespirito]
    #11065548 - 09/15/09 08:23 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Chespirito said:
Quote:

elementswrath said:
the guy speaking is a dumbass.
he says uuuuuuhhhh every sentence he stated.
and takes 3 second brakes for a new one.
you can also see the expression on his face that he is straining his brain.



He might just have a slight speech impdiment.

And as for the surprise nature of this, didn't Obama campaign on the idea of putting more troops into Afghanistan?




you mean campaign against it?
yeah he did.
he wanted to pull out the US troops out of Afghanistan.
but looks like another government bull shitting us again.


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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: C.M. Mann]
    #11065561 - 09/15/09 08:24 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

C.M. Mann said:
If someone wants to be a revolutionary, use facts.




You mean like citing a commonly known fact one such source of which would be Lawrence Wright's Pulitzer prize winning "The Looming Tower: Al Qaeda and the Road to 9/11"

Yea maybe if you want to correct someone you should read the fuck up on a topic. Like for instance the status of Bin Laden's popularity before 9-11.


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"Have you ever seen what happens when a grenade goes off in a school? Do you really know what you’re doing when you order shock and awe? Are you prepared to kneel beside a dying soldier and tell him why he went to Iraq, or why he went to any war?"
"The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything."
- Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now.
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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: elementswrath]
    #11065613 - 09/15/09 08:33 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

elementswrath said:
looks like another government bull shitting us again.





Obama needs to explain what his plans are in Afghanistan.

ITS OUR MONEY! OUR CHILDREN!

what is success in Afghanistan? 

whats failure?

how much longer?

how many more troops?


dont expect the dick sucking media to be asking these questions....


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We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: lonestar2004]
    #11065671 - 09/15/09 08:45 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

lol partisan much? I don't dissagree, but I swear I recall you carrying a different tune when bush wanted a troop surge.


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"Have you ever seen what happens when a grenade goes off in a school? Do you really know what you’re doing when you order shock and awe? Are you prepared to kneel beside a dying soldier and tell him why he went to Iraq, or why he went to any war?"
"The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything."
- Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now.
Conquer's Club


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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: elementswrath]
    #11065886 - 09/15/09 09:30 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

elementswrath said:
Quote:

Chespirito said:
Quote:

elementswrath said:
the guy speaking is a dumbass.
he says uuuuuuhhhh every sentence he stated.
and takes 3 second brakes for a new one.
you can also see the expression on his face that he is straining his brain.



He might just have a slight speech impdiment.

And as for the surprise nature of this, didn't Obama campaign on the idea of putting more troops into Afghanistan?




you mean campaign against it?
yeah he did.
he wanted to pull out the US troops out of Afghanistan.
but looks like another government bull shitting us again.





Im not sure what you mean

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Barack_Obama#Afghanistan

"Obama announced a plan — if elected — to deploy an additional 7,000 troops to Afghanistan. "As president, I would pursue a new strategy, and begin by providing at least two additional combat brigades to support our effort in Afghanistan" "We need more troops, more helicopters, better intelligence-gathering and more nonmilitary assistance to accomplish the mission there" "I would not hold our military, our resources and our foreign policy hostage to a misguided desire to maintain permanent bases in Iraq," Obama said on July 14, 2008."

He said as much many times during the debates


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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: ScavengerType]
    #11065919 - 09/15/09 09:38 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

ScavengerType said:
lol partisan much? I don't dissagree, but I swear I recall you carrying a different tune when bush wanted a troop surge.





IMO bush did a lot better job explaining the surge and what our goals were going to be then when he first invaded Iraq.


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We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: Chespirito]
    #11066304 - 09/15/09 10:47 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Chespirito said:
Quote:

elementswrath said:
Quote:

Chespirito said:
Quote:

elementswrath said:
the guy speaking is a dumbass.
he says uuuuuuhhhh every sentence he stated.
and takes 3 second brakes for a new one.
you can also see the expression on his face that he is straining his brain.



He might just have a slight speech impdiment.

And as for the surprise nature of this, didn't Obama campaign on the idea of putting more troops into Afghanistan?




you mean campaign against it?
yeah he did.
he wanted to pull out the US troops out of Afghanistan.
but looks like another government bull shitting us again.





Im not sure what you mean

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Barack_Obama#Afghanistan

"Obama announced a plan — if elected — to deploy an additional 7,000 troops to Afghanistan. "As president, I would pursue a new strategy, and begin by providing at least two additional combat brigades to support our effort in Afghanistan" "We need more troops, more helicopters, better intelligence-gathering and more nonmilitary assistance to accomplish the mission there" "I would not hold our military, our resources and our foreign policy hostage to a misguided desire to maintain permanent bases in Iraq," Obama said on July 14, 2008."

He said as much many times during the debates




that's strange.
when i watched the news he said that he would apologize to Afghanistan and pull out the troops.


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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: elementswrath]
    #11066399 - 09/15/09 11:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I never personally recall him taking a different position than the one I quoted


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Re: Surprise Surprise they are asking for More Troops in Afghanistan [Re: elementswrath]
    #11066407 - 09/15/09 11:01 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

its hard to keep up because Obama is all over the fucking place about the middle east.

Msnbc



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We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

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