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Offlinepsylicon
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Power of the mind
    #1105687 - 12/03/02 12:17 AM (14 years, 5 days ago)

It's truly amazing what the mind is capable of. Holding the perspective that psilocybin, DMT, LSD, etc are merely keys that unlock hidden functions of our brain allows for the conclusion that the brain is capable of such things, and much more, unaided by psychadelics. Example - I just experienced the first and second dimensions of space-time while listening to a remix of Shpongle's DMT. Granted I took 3 dry grams 4 days ago, but I am completely sober right now. This is a great thing to experiment with, and it wasn't even a full-blown OBE but just a closed-eyed trip.


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Re: Power of the mind [Re: psylicon]
    #1105694 - 12/03/02 12:19 AM (14 years, 5 days ago)

And you will come to find that we are all one mind
Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable


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Without everything wouldn't nothing be everything and without nothing wouldn't everything be nothing.I am the beginning and the end,the source and the void, the light and the darkness,i am but a small drop of the ocean yet i am an ocean unto myself


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Re: Power of the mind [Re: psylicon]
    #1105697 - 12/03/02 12:20 AM (14 years, 5 days ago)

:wink:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Power of the mind [Re: psylicon]
    #1105785 - 12/03/02 12:42 AM (14 years, 5 days ago)

See folks? Shpongle is a drug in itself, and synergizes beautifully with all others  :blush:

-=- Matt/Strumpling -=-
sorry, but I HAVE to praise Shpongle when somebody mentions it - send me a PM if you want a special Shpongle gift


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Re: Power of the mind [Re: Strumpling]
    #1105834 - 12/03/02 12:59 AM (14 years, 5 days ago)

Don't forget TOOL!  :wink:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Power of the mind [Re: Murex]
    #1105947 - 12/03/02 01:40 AM (14 years, 5 days ago)

Yes they bend my mind in a completely different direction


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Re: Power of the mind [Re: psylicon]
    #1105952 - 12/03/02 01:44 AM (14 years, 5 days ago)

Yes, but what "power" did you unlock? A realization (which may or may not even be true) is not a power.


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Re: Power of the mind [Re: Swami]
    #1106197 - 12/03/02 03:58 AM (14 years, 5 days ago)

my take on it is like your brain is a giant muscle. everytime u dose psychadelics you are exercising special pieces of this muscle. when sober u can use these muscles via meditation to distort reality without the use of substances. 10-4?


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Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.
- Abraham Lincoln: Speech in the Illinois House of Representatives, Dec 18, 1840.


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Re: Power of the mind [Re: Swami]
    #1106376 - 12/03/02 06:26 AM (14 years, 5 days ago)

"A realization (which may or may not even be true) is not a power."

I think a realization can be a most powerful thing. The realizations i made 2 years ago are directly affecting the reality im currently experiencing. A realization changed everything. It gave me the power to mold my life to my liking.


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Re: Power of the mind [Re: postanaldrip]
    #1106432 - 12/03/02 08:24 AM (14 years, 5 days ago)

In reply to:

I think a realization can be a most powerful thing. The realizations i made 2 years ago are directly affecting the reality im currently experiencing. A realization changed everything. It gave me the power to mold my life to my liking.



true... very true


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Re: Power of the mind [Re: Swami]
    #1106626 - 12/03/02 11:19 AM (14 years, 5 days ago)

In reply to:

Yes, but what "power" did you unlock? A realization (which may or may not even be true) is not a power.



The power to achieve vivid and psilocybin/salvinorin quality closed-eyed-visualizations at will - very useful in meditation, ritual, OBE practice, everyday life. Certainly prior ingestion of psychadelics was not necessary to help me realize this, but it definitely helped.


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Re: Power of the mind [Re: psylicon]
    #1106841 - 12/03/02 01:05 PM (14 years, 5 days ago)

I highly doubt the sober hallucinations are as extrordinary. I can trigger visions as well but they're not nearly as....... they're not as "something" as "the real thing."


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In addition: SHPONGLE


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Re: Power of the mind [Re: postanaldrip]
    #1108005 - 12/03/02 08:45 PM (14 years, 4 days ago)

I think a realization can be a most powerful thing.

Realization is what life is all about.
Realization is the key.
Realization is your sight.


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T h e r e  a r e  n o  o r d i n a r y  m o m e n t s.


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Re: Power of the mind [Re: thePatient]
    #1108024 - 12/03/02 09:02 PM (14 years, 4 days ago)

When I come to large realizations I get that tickley seratonin-waterfall feeling in my brain :smile: its neato


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In addition: SHPONGLE


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Re: Power of the mind [Re: Strumpling]
    #1108060 - 12/03/02 09:24 PM (14 years, 4 days ago)

is that what that is? seratonin leaking down your spine? when you feel the tingly shivers? lol. or was that just a euphemism?


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Re: Power of the mind [Re: Strumpling]
    #1108063 - 12/03/02 09:25 PM (14 years, 4 days ago)

Bwaha, yea dude
I love that feeling...
Momentarily basking in complete enlightenment.



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Re: Power of the mind [Re: socratesmind]
    #1108076 - 12/03/02 09:31 PM (14 years, 4 days ago)

my take on it is like your brain is a giant muscle. everytime u dose psychadelics you are exercising special pieces of this muscle. when sober u can use these muscles via meditation to distort reality without the use of substances.

I believe this as well.  :wink:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Power of the mind [Re: Strumpling]
    #1109078 - 12/04/02 04:26 AM (14 years, 4 days ago)

"When I come to large realizations I get that tickley seratonin-waterfall feeling in my brain its neato"


I know exactly what you mean.


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Re: Power of the mind [Re: postanaldrip]
    #1109139 - 12/04/02 05:16 AM (14 years, 4 days ago)

I think a realization can be a most powerful thing.

A "power" and a "powerful thing" have ENTIRELY different connotations. Nice, albeit weak, try though.


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Re: Power of the mind [Re: socratesmind]
    #1109148 - 12/04/02 05:25 AM (14 years, 4 days ago)

my take on it is like your brain is a giant muscle.

The mechanisms and actions of learning/growth are completely different in every aspect. I find this to be a poor analogy.


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