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B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS!
    #11051140 - 09/13/09 10:28 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

While innoculating a variety of quart jars with rye substrate I decided to do a little experimenting in which I ground up rye berries and mixed them with vermiculite at a ratio of 40/60 to create a 1/2 pint cake.  The strains I am working with in this overall project include keepers creepers, b+, PESH, Pink Buffalo, Oak Ridge, and Subbs.  I decided to inoculate this experimental cake with the B+.  It being the smallest jar colonized to 100% before the others.  I just got a camera into action today and they are 3 days into pinning! Let me know what you all think!!!












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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: Jockin John C]
    #11051191 - 09/13/09 10:46 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

lookin pretty good :thumbup:


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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: dpga]
    #11051202 - 09/13/09 10:49 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Nice camera :laugh: :yesnod:


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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: dstark]
    #11051269 - 09/13/09 11:14 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

very nice camra what is it


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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: feelfunny]
    #11051358 - 09/13/09 11:39 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: Jockin John C]
    #11051360 - 09/13/09 11:40 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

and whats on the top of the cake?


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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: feelfunny]
    #11051365 - 09/13/09 11:42 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

oh i put a vermiculite core in the center of my cakes so I can inject water and keep the cake more moist.  It seems to work really well :thumbup:

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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: Jockin John C]
    #11051393 - 09/13/09 11:49 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

how long have they been growing? didn't even roll these in verm it worked out pretty well to. it is hard to say what help and what doesn't when using a MS syringe there are to many variables


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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: feelfunny]
    #11051420 - 09/13/09 11:56 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

The cakes started pinning 3 days ago and this is the results thus far, they are still getting bigger and bigger, with many additional pins each day.  Should get a nice yield off it.

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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: Jockin John C]
    #11051928 - 09/13/09 01:43 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

It's looking pretty good, I'll tell you what I think of it in a couple of days!:wink:

Please, let me know what the total yield is.

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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: AlexP]
    #11056276 - 09/14/09 06:43 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

a couple veils started seperating today, so we are well underway.  will post more pics at the end of the first flush

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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: Jockin John C]
    #11056371 - 09/14/09 07:28 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Dude, .... Is that hole in your cake a fucking well? I saw a post on here were someone was drilling holes in there cakes and inserting a straw for a "Well" lol!


If it is, by all means :thumbup: I just think thats a little silly, thats all :smirk:


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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: Miscusi]
    #11056645 - 09/14/09 09:11 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

haha no its not a well, the hole itself is not deep at all, it is just a depression so i can dribble water into it so I can watch the water soak into the verm core.  When the water begins pooling i stopping adding water because it has reached saturation :thumbup:... I definitely would say the vermiculite core helps ALOT in keeping the cake nice and moist

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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: Jockin John C]
    #11062410 - 09/15/09 05:28 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

looks good man :thumbup::thumbup:
um i will say this my flush is larger only because I used pint jars not the standard half pint
first flush gave me around 9 grams dry
after my first flush i dunked and crumbled the cakes into a round cover of a cd case mixed with verm,peat moss,coir and dead dry grass from the yard

the only problem is i didnt cover the sides of the cd case so now there's an explosion of pins coming up from the sides hardly any top pinning but yeh it's working good so far
  i suggest after ur first flush u dunk in water for 12 hours then make a casing or a mix like i did you should have better results

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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: RandomHero]
    #11062453 - 09/15/09 05:53 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

appreciate the advice bro :thumbup: can't wait to show you the goodness.  and that was while there was still a good bit of pin development there are still quite a few pins popping up and growing. picked the first guy today

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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: Jockin John C]
    #11093626 - 09/20/09 08:04 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Alright so I ended up harvesting 49 grams wet weight off this beauty first flush, but didnt get any pictures as they somehow dissappeared right off the cake into my mouth right after picking.  I dunked the cake for about 24 hours and rolled it in fine vermiculite wed/thurs.  Wasn't expecting anything for another day or to but when i got home this morning pins were exploding!  I will get pictures up as soon as I can, probably at 2nd flush.

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    #11113171 - 09/23/09 03:02 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

second flush is coming along nicely, but sadly its not looking quite as nice as the first flush yet, which blows but we'll see!  Hopefully I can get some pics up tomorrow, might just take some with the cell phone tonight.  Also just cased 2 quart jars with 2 parts coir to 1 part verm.  Cant wait till the myc breaks surface.

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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: Jockin John C]
    #11113183 - 09/23/09 03:04 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

cant wait to see the picks.


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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: feelfunny]
    #11122805 - 09/24/09 11:10 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

How is this hole in the middle project working out? Anything new today?

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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: Chasawah]
    #11124141 - 09/25/09 08:03 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

i harvested the secind flush, but it didnt work out like the first one did.  I tried experimenting with a blue led and a fluorescent and I definitely feel that the 5 minutes of direct light a day and the rest diffused from the window is definitely the way to go.  The hole actually works out great! keeps plenty of moisture in the cake.  I already dried the flush but it only weighed a couple gs dry, pitiful.  I dunked and rerolled again for 12 hours and a medium heavy coat of verm.  i hope this 3rd flush cranks it out.  But on a more positive note I peaked at the PESH casing today and some rhizo was poking through the casing so that will probably find itself in the fruiting chamber tomorrow.  I also have to case another pesh tray, and the pink buffalo should be ready for casing in a few days.  I am more less done with cakes but always like to have a couple on hand because I have never had cakes fail, so i can always rely on some prints from them.  I also inoculated to more quarts of b+ yesterday.  Do yall wanna see the shitty flush? I almost decided not even to post it because it sucked so hard.  It looked like tremendously more than it really was.  Like i said, mother natures light is the light for me, will keep updated on the weigh out.  first flush was 49 second one was about 20.  hopefully the 3rd wont dissapoint.  Its going in front of the window.

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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: Jockin John C]
    #11124172 - 09/25/09 08:14 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Cakes are weaksauce


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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: FlyingMonk]
    #11124220 - 09/25/09 08:35 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

weak sauce is weak sauce


these are cakes:





:lol: if a 1/2 oz dry per cake is weak, then i must be doing something wrong :rofl:


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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: FlyingMonk]
    #11124221 - 09/25/09 08:35 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

this is a fact, but they are still fun little projects :thumbup:.  really casing seems easier to me then cakes anyways.  just prepare some rye, innoc, colonize, case.  so simple.  Is spawning rye to something like hpoo easy? i find myself becoming interested in this.

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    #11124224 - 09/25/09 08:36 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

those cakes are exceptional hot fire, this lone warrior of a cake will never be more than my little Frankenstein experiment though. are those brf.

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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: Jockin John C]
    #11125479 - 09/25/09 01:23 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Cakes are for noobs.


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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: FlyingMonk]
    #11125547 - 09/25/09 01:34 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Huh, but cakes are not expensive and its ingredients easy to get :smile:
I use trays grows (hpoo mainly)


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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: dstark]
    #11125553 - 09/25/09 01:35 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

i havent spawned to hpoo yet.  only cased grain

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    #11125623 - 09/25/09 01:48 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Try hpoo, you will be amazed + its very easy to get(usually for free :smile:)


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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: dstark]
    #11125741 - 09/25/09 02:05 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

can i just go take some horse shit from a horse field? easy enough around here. then pc it, and when i wanna colonize do I just put the colonized rye in the tray then place all the hpoo on top of it?

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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: Jockin John C]
    #11125798 - 09/25/09 02:14 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Yes exactly. Search few TEKs on Horse poo on the forum, its very easy and profitable :yesnod:
I made the poo like this: hpoo/vermiculite(cant get coir...) 80/20.

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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: dstark]
    #11125823 - 09/25/09 02:18 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

oh thank you :grin::thumbup:  you are the bomb!  general rating should treat you well. +5.  i will look into this and maybe even start today, i have pink buffalo about to be ready with grain. 

yeild tremendously more than casing?

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    #11125934 - 09/25/09 02:39 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

It wont disappoint you for sure =] You can allways case the poo huh. Back at you man, Thanks :wink:.
Oh and good luck with the buffalo :thumbup:
Hope you understand : WBS/Grain->Hpoo, not directly spores on the poo :smile:


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    #11125979 - 09/25/09 02:44 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Cakes are for noobs.



How about Rye Berry cakes?  Not Rye flour, not BRF but rye berries.  For noobs?  Look really close.  :cool:



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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: dstark]
    #11126049 - 09/25/09 02:52 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Hope you understand : WBS/Grain->Hpoo, not directly spores on the poo :smile:




oh i understand haha im no noooob.  I only work with grain really, mostly just g2g transfers to keep things going since the colonized mycelium will colonize faster than ms... unless of course i get a new strain.

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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: Jockin John C]
    #11126071 - 09/25/09 02:57 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

and for the record anyone viewing this, this cake is ground rye berries, not brf.

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Re: B+ Grow on 40/60 Ground Rye and Vermiculite Cake! Porn PICS! [Re: Jockin John C]
    #11126135 - 09/25/09 03:06 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Cakes are for noobs.



lol, i never said i wasn't a n00b, but cakes aren't weak by any means :vaped: they can actually be more BE than tubs

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those cakes are exceptional hot fire, this lone warrior of a cake will never be more than my little Frankenstein experiment though. are those brf.




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