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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: Skikid16]
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i recently got into dung and have been scraping off my verm/peat casing layer from post first flush brf/verm casings(1 pint of substrate) and recasing with about 1/3 to 1/2 inch of dung. is this amount of dung enough to make a difference? should i let my other 50/50 cased brf/verm casings flush out to completion or continue to recase with dung after they flush?


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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: rhizo]
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You are recasing brf cakes with poo and nothing else?  :blush:  Why?

Poo is not a casing material because it is nutritious.  Maybe if you broke up the brf cake and mixed it up with the poo and put it back into the incubator, but merely casing with poo is a sure fire way to grow green, believe me, I did it.    :crazy: 

Next time just let the casings exhaust themselves.


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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: Skikid16]
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sorry dude, totally disagree. dung can be used both as a substrate and as a casing layer...i know a casing layer isn't supposed to be nutritious, but dung is the exception to the rule. as for the re-cased casings, they are colonizing great and i didn't pasteurize...at this point i don't think dung can contam unless you inoculate it with the nasties. yeah, i used some cakes for spawning, but after reading a few dung casing reports i decided to try this. a few are about to start pinning, i'll let you know the results


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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: rhizo]
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was wondering, after you do a first flush on some pf tek cakes, can you then crumble, and mix with some poo, then case with some verm?


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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: rhizo]
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I don't know man.  I tried it, with not one, but two casings.  I let the bitch colonize, in fact I let it colonize a little too in one, causing overlay.

Both had great pinsets, but both had mostly abort.  One produced 4 of the biggest fruits I have grown to date, the other produced a couple much smaller fruits.  Both were 1/4 green before the first harvest. 

But this was my second attempt at casing, so it may have been I bit off more than I could chew when I decided to use poo with so little experience.  And they say stoners aren't ambitious.    :tongue:

But hey, you sound pretty compitant, so maybe you can make it work.  Best of luck and keep us updated. 


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Edited by Skikid16 (12/03/02 03:21 AM)

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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: Skikid16]
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14 grams fresh B+, BRF got me a low level 3..but hey maybee im just a weak ass :smile:


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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: alienated]
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" was wondering, after you do a first flush on some pf tek cakes, can you then crumble, and mix with some poo, then case with some verm?"

of course

Skikid16:

i think it depends on the shit dude.  did you sterilize?  i just read that's a good way to get contams growing.  i noticed when i bought the dung that it was moist and had nothing growing in it.  i was worried that it contained fungicides but the myc is eating it up.  i pasteurized the first lot, but after shit water splashed up on my face and got in my mouth i decided fuck that.  i have pf cake isolates spawning unpasteurized dung at a 1:10-1:15 ratio, if they don't get contam'd then i'm done with pasteurization altogher with this brand of dung...maybe it's peroxidated dung  :wink:

i'm a stoner too and have had my share of pitfalls with this and other related hobbies.  i think you have a point though about dung as a casing, i think what i'm doing is probably better referred to as spawning, even though the dung was applied like a casing.  hmm, i'll probably case the dung casing with coir cuz you seem competent too  :smile:


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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: rhizo]
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i think it depends on the shit dude. did you sterilize? 

I steam sterilized it, I think for 45 min.  I really can't remember, but yeah, that was probably mistake number one. 

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  i have pf cake isolates spawning unpasteurized dung at a 1:10-1:15 ratio, if they don't get contam'd then i'm done with pasteurization altogher with this brand of dung

I spawned some unpasteurized poo and the mycelium spawned just fine, but the fruits were pretty bacteria ridden, don't even know if I'll eat them.  :frown:  But 6T put it best when he said "using unpasteurized poo is like not wiping your ass after taking a shit, yeah you may not get you pants dirty a couple time, but in the long run you're gonna have skid marks."  (or something along those lines)  :smile:


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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: Skikid16]
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i dont want goddamn weak shrooms... how do i fuck with millet? damn i dont even know where to begin


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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: shroomizzy]
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A great place to start to learn is the FAQ. It covers grains and bulk substrates in there in pretty good detail.


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- Abraham Lincoln: Speech in the Illinois House of Representatives, Dec 18, 1840.

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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: shroomizzy]
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Check page one before you post shroomzizsy... :mad:
newname put a link!


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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: Slighter]
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yes you can use pure millet but I'm not sure where to find it.
Birdseed is great though and you should try it, I might have seen a few birdseed brands with all millet but I can't remember.

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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: Slighter]
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you can use either millet or birdseed, both have advantages, and disadvantages i'll go into some i know of (these are personal results of me in my area) :

birdseed:
advantages; usually cheaper than organic millet, easier to find, available in bulk (25 cents a pound),
disadvantages: sometimes stuff added (crushed corn & etc) make substrate mushy, slower colonization of mycelium in most cases.
millet:
adv; faster colonization, easier to shake with right h2o content
disadvantages: 59 cents a pound at organic foods store

both provides lots of innoculations points for growth on bulk subs

good luck!

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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: Slighter]
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You can find straight white millet at pet stores that carry bird supplies. I get mine at a local feed and tack store that carries supplies for all pets.

As for brf potency, last friday my buddy and I split 6 dry grams of PR's grown on a pf cake, and I fried my ass off. I'd say it was a very intense level 3. These were smaller mushrooms and aborts, dried, ground up, and ingested with OJ. Very satisfying!! :cool:

 


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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: Fred Garvin]
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now i wish there was a damn pressure cooker in my house so i could do up some birdseeds

wait... could i spawn the brf colonized cakes onto something that would make them more potent... if so, what? something that would be kinda easy to sterilize or pasturize


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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: Fred Garvin]
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i grew some SA's using the BRf pf tek.... i ate about 4 1/2 g, and barely tripped at all... kinda sucked after all the time i spent growing 'em... o well- maybe ill have better luck next time.

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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: Slighter]
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I dont really know much bout millet or birdseed....i thought they were the same shit, different pile.  I recently bought some birdseed, less sunflower seeds the better, and if you can find it without birdkote that would be better.....i think.... :confused:


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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: Azmodeus]
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There are plenty of good millet teks around. JUst do a search.
If you want to start you can soak it for 24 hours, strain then substitute it into your pf cakes - 50% verm, 20 brf and 30 millet - enjoy the meaty stems and potency!!
Hamurabi - man you could have asked to use my pic as you avatar...


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Re: who's had good potency with brf cakes? [Re: Zen Peddler]
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your pic??? is it copyrighted or something?!?!! if yes then let me know and i'll change it:-)


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