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OfflinePerfactParadox
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Do we control our emotions or...
    #1104965 - 12/02/02 08:44 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Do we control our emotions or do our emotions control us?
Or is it just depend on the person?


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: PerfactParadox]
    #1105024 - 12/02/02 08:58 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

that's a tough one. Sometimes I feel like the only reason I have negative thoughts is because I'm depressed, other times I can fall into depression after negative thoughts happen, but maybe those negative thoughts came in because I was depressed who knows


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: PerfactParadox]
    #1105026 - 12/02/02 08:58 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

One must have controll of ones emotions. You should not were your emotions on your sleave. If you just let your emotions run wild, then some bad things can happen especially when mad.


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: GrowingVines]
    #1105060 - 12/02/02 09:11 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Then tell me GrowingVines, how exactly does one control his emotions?
What is your method?


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: PerfactParadox]
    #1105070 - 12/02/02 09:16 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Your emotions control you as you control them or vice versa.

In short both at once.


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Without everything wouldn't nothing be everything and without nothing wouldn't everything be nothing.I am the beginning and the end,the source and the void, the light and the darkness,i am but a small drop of the ocean yet i am an ocean unto myself


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1105083 - 12/02/02 09:22 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Again, i would like to know this method of "emotion controling" How exactly does it work?
Teach me.

(Im only asking this because it is something im thinking about. My personal opinion is that we CAN control our emotions I just can't think of HOW we do it. This is also leading me to the possibility that mabey we dont(or can't) control our emotions...)


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: PerfactParadox]
    #1105090 - 12/02/02 09:26 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Emotions, like logic, can make good servants but bad masters.


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: Adamist]
    #1105096 - 12/02/02 09:29 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Arg!!!!
Again, I would like to know how to make emotion my servent?


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: PerfactParadox]
    #1105108 - 12/02/02 09:33 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Well, I'm no master at it, but what helps is to center yourself, and to view things from an unattached state of awareness... Don't get caught up in all the melodrama that surrounds you... That's not to say you should just escape reality; you still must do your part... just don't get caught up in doing it. Remember you are just playing a part in a play, so to speak.

Just my opinion. :smile: 


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: Adamist]
    #1105124 - 12/02/02 09:38 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I agree with adamist.


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: Adamist]
    #1105138 - 12/02/02 09:43 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

How do i center myself? How do i view myself from an unattached state of awareness? Again just questions. I THINK i control my emotions all the time, but it certanly involves no centering or viewing myself from unattatched states of awareness. Also, is it pratical to center yourself and view yourself from an unattatched state of awareness everytime I dont like an oncomming emotion? Do i have to do these things everytime i get angry?


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: PerfactParadox]
    #1105531 - 12/02/02 11:38 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

We don't control our emotions at all; only our reactions to those emotions.


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: Strumpling]
    #1105560 - 12/02/02 11:44 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

We must control emotion on some level. At some point the ego subconciously makes a decision. That makes me mad/That makes me happy
It then serves to reason we can control our emotions by shaping our ego in some desired direction.


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: PerfactParadox]
    #1105562 - 12/02/02 11:44 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

It all depends on the person's mind.

I see people (like my parents) who have their emotions controlling them. It's not pretty.

I can (mostly) control my emotions. I have always been very passive in my life, and my parents think I'm stupid because of this. If only they could meditate or something. All that stress should be let out and never allowed to come back.



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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1105576 - 12/02/02 11:49 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

ok well if you're putting it that way then yeah everything that goes on inside me is controlled by me.

I thought we were going along the lines of consciously controling.... I thought if something is in your subconscious your ego really can't control it at all.. and if it can, then its not subconscious? or am I being retarded? heheheh I do that a lot too


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: Murex]
    #1105582 - 12/02/02 11:50 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

"All that stress should be let out and never allowed to come back."

heheheh thats a funny way of putting it :smile: Thats one of my major problems - I don't stress out anymore so its hard to get anything done  :grin:


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: Strumpling]
    #1105719 - 12/03/02 12:25 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Your ego probably would not be very successful of consciously controlling what's in the subconscious mind. However the subconcious mind creates the ego while simutaneously the ego creates the subconscious mind. By changing one you can change the other.

Without Ego and without the form and structure of the mind both conscious and subconscious we return to the formless void. Consciousness without form structure or boundry. Pure awareness of everything, everywhere, everywhen. Experiencing the ultimate moment.


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Without everything wouldn't nothing be everything and without nothing wouldn't everything be nothing.I am the beginning and the end,the source and the void, the light and the darkness,i am but a small drop of the ocean yet i am an ocean unto myself


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1105726 - 12/03/02 12:27 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Tru dat, nigga.  :wink:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1105740 - 12/03/02 12:31 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

well there is no ultimate moment - thats why the "everywhen" is included :wink:


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: Strumpling]
    #1105754 - 12/03/02 12:33 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

The ultimate moment would be eternity.


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What if everything around you
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What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: Murex]
    #1105774 - 12/03/02 12:38 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

hmmm I don't know if thats possible..... let me look up "moment"

Ahh 4 entries found (edit #1:subtraction [i had 4 huge entries posted but this isn't really even on-topic so - begone!])
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mo?ment    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (mmnt)
n.
A brief, indefinite interval of time.
A specific point in time, especially the present time: He is not here at the moment.
A particular period of importance, influence, or significance in a series of events or developments: a great moment in history; waiting for her big moment.
Outstanding significance or value; importance: a discovery of great moment.
A brief period of time that is characterized by a quality, such as excellence, suitability, or distinction: a lackluster performance that nevertheless had its moments.
Philosophy.
An essential or constituent element, as of a complex idea.
A phase or an aspect of a logically developing process.
Abbr. M Physics.
The product of a quantity and its perpendicular distance from a reference point.
The tendency to cause rotation about a point or an axis.
Statistics. The expected value of a positive integral power of a random variable. The first moment is the mean of the distribution.
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I thought eternity = timeless?

Regardless, I see what you're saying :smile:


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Edited by Strumpling (12/03/02 12:40 AM)


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: Strumpling]
    #1105841 - 12/03/02 01:01 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Regardless, I see what you're saying

That's all that matters.  :wink:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: PerfactParadox]
    #1105876 - 12/03/02 01:11 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry took so long for me to post back PerfactParadox, had to go get the green. Well its hard to say how to controll your emotions. You might not be able to fully controll them at frist. You may only be able to hold back the emotions, as to, not let them show. Meditation helps controll of the mind and the will of your being. When you are totally tranquil, you will be in controll of your emotions. I am not saying i am in complete controll of mine, but one day i will be.


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: PerfactParadox]
    #1106433 - 12/03/02 08:28 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

How do i center myself? How do i view myself from an unattached state of awareness?

That's like asking me how to love.

Also, is it pratical to center yourself and view yourself from an unattatched state of awareness everytime I dont like an oncomming emotion?

You don't pick and choose which emotions you like and dislike to stay unattached to... I think even joy and happiness should be calmly observed, because just like sadness and anger these emotions are like passing storms, and don't last forever. It's best to just watch them blow on by and not get caught up in them.

Again, just my opinion. :smile: 


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: Strumpling]
    #1107749 - 12/03/02 06:25 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

A brief, indefinite interval of time.
eternity is an indefinate interval of time. It has no "defining" boundry.
A particular period of importance, influence, or significance in a series of events or developments: a great moment in history; waiting for her big moment.
Nothing exists if it's not in the moment here and now. The universe as a whole is one moment containing past present and future endlessly moving and changing.

Outstanding significance or value; importance - needs no explanation

A brief period of time that is characterized by a quality, such as excellence, suitability, or distinction- an inconceivably brief and inconceivably long moment. Viewed from an outside observor our universe could be the briefest of phenomena lasting only a heartbeat. From inside our universe this short moment(from the outsiders perspective), would be to us all of eternity. I think Einsteins theorys would back this up.

Hey I just got the to the part where you said you understand what i was saying. Oh well i'm not gonna waste all this writing


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1107923 - 12/03/02 08:14 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

well yeah I was just making sure it was understood that technically the word eternity means timeless, and the word moment has to do with a PIECE of time. :smile:


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Re: Do we control our emotions or... [Re: Strumpling]
    #1108248 - 12/03/02 11:03 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Good reply, Adamist.


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