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OfflineSHR00M0L0GIST
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Need Help!
    #1104093 - 12/02/02 03:32 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

Ok... I got all the stuff I need to start casing except for the BRF. I couldn't find it anymore. I used to get it at Giant (grocery store) but they didn't have it. So instead I got some Whole Grain/Whole Wheat Flour. Will that work? I also picked up some pennington wild bird seed (enriched with minerals). I was wondering if I could use that in my cakes and/or casings? I was gonna use horse poo in my casings but I was hoping that the bird seed would be sufficient. Does anyone know if I could use the bird seed to make my cakes? Please help me out here. I really apprciate any help given. Thanks ahead of time.


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Re: Need Help! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1104123 - 12/02/02 03:43 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

You need to read up more on the difference between substrate and casings.  You should have bought organic long grain brown rice and made your own flower for the substrate.  But are you planning to mix birdseed AND brown rice flower?  My advice to you would be to hold off on the bird seed, as i hear its more challenging than brf, and buy some med or fine grade vermiculite.  And prepare your substrate with 1cup vermiculite to 1/4 brf and 1/4 distilled water.  And if your lucky enough to get these jars colonized i can tell you a little bout casing too!
Hope this ;helps  :smile:


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Re: Need Help! [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1104132 - 12/02/02 03:45 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

I wouldnt use the whole wheat flour though....buy vermiculite and it can be used to case also...


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Re: Need Help! [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1104168 - 12/02/02 03:57 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

well I'm not gonna go and grind up my own rice for one. For two, I already have been working with pf tek for about a year now but I've used the same supplies. I have vermiculite, perilite, birdseed, whole wheat flour, etc.
I just couldn't find brown rice flour anymore. The only store that carrys it around here (that I know of) is out of it. I'm looking for something else that can be used in the cakes to substitute for the BRF. I was hoping that the wheat flour or bird seed would work. If anyone else knows please let me know. Also, could I use the birdseed in my casings instead of manure?


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Re: Need Help! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1104197 - 12/02/02 04:09 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

so ur saying ur not stoned?


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Re: Need Help! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1104233 - 12/02/02 04:22 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

Ok... heres the supplies I have...

  • 2- 8 Dry Quart bags of vermiculite
  • 1- 8 Dry Quart Bag of perlite
  • 1- 5 pound bag of Gold Medal Whole Wheat Flour
  • 20- 1/2 quart jars
  • 10 pound bag of Pennington Wild Bird Feed
  • 4- 16 oz. Bottles of 3% peroxide
  • 2- 16 oz. Bottles of Rubbing Alchohol
  • 20 pairs of Latex Gloves
  • 2 larges spray bottles
  • Antibacterial Soap & Lysol
  • 2- Fully submersible fish tank heaters with adjustable temp. guage
  • 1- 25 Gallon Sterilite container (terrarium)
  • 2- 10 Gallon Sterilite Containers (incubator)
  • 2- Pyrex Casserole Dishes with rubber lids (casings)
  • 1- Whisper Dual Output Fish Tank Air Pump with 2 air stones and 8' of hose
  • 1- Electric Indoor/Outdoor thermometer with suction cups (for inside terrarium)

Does anyone see anything missing (besides Spores) from this list? I'm trying to start doing casing now. My only problem I really have is not being able to find the BRF. So I bought whole wheat flour, and the birdseed in hopes that it would be a substitute for the BRF. I wasn't gonna use both... Just one or the other (if I can). I'm also wondering if I can use the birdseed in my casings or should I use manure or something? Thanks Alot In Advance For Any Help!!!!


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Re: Need Help! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1104244 - 12/02/02 04:25 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

no I'm not fucking stoned... what the fuck kind of question is that? I don't even smoke weed. LMAO


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Re: Need Help! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1104390 - 12/02/02 05:22 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

oh yeah, I forgot. I also have 2 gallons of distilled water.


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Re: Need Help! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1104404 - 12/02/02 05:28 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

Get some brown rice flour and grind it up using a coffee grinder.


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Re: Need Help! [Re: SixCee]
    #1104409 - 12/02/02 05:31 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

I don't have a coffee grinder nor do I have the funds for it. I was hoping I could use something I already have or at least something a little easier than grinding brown rice up. Thanks for the reply!


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Re: Need Help! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1104410 - 12/02/02 05:31 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)



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Re: Need Help! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1104423 - 12/02/02 05:34 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

Rye flour works well, and should be right next to the WW flour, which may work, but I don't know how well as I have never used it. You can make the cakes using birdseed, but If you are going to use birdseed, you should have a pressure cooker. The birdseed and poo are not used as a casing layer, but are bulk substrates which can be cased once fully colonized.


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Re: Need Help! [Re: dog]
    #1104436 - 12/02/02 05:37 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

thanks for the link... the birdseed I have has white proso millets in it (lots of them) Could I just chrush this birseed to near powder and use it in my substrate jars to substitute for BRF ???


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Re: Need Help! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1104445 - 12/02/02 05:40 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

If you can grind the millet it will work. You will have to PC to sterilize though.


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Re: Need Help! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1104456 - 12/02/02 05:44 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

so what you are saying about the birdseed is that I put it on as a casing layer after the first layer is fully colonized? Also... How could I use it in the substrate Jars?


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Re: Need Help! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1104462 - 12/02/02 05:46 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

No, the birdseed is a substrate, not a casing material, and should not be in the casing layer at all. Read through the teks and the faq on info about using birdseed as a substrate.


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Re: Need Help! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1104465 - 12/02/02 05:46 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

Should I grind Just the white proso millets? Or all of the birseed including the millet ??? Its gonna be a bitch trying to seperate all those little white millets from everything. LOL


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Re: Need Help! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1104469 - 12/02/02 05:48 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

ok... i gotcha now sts... thanks for the help man.


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Re: Need Help! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1104470 - 12/02/02 05:48 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

You don't need to grind anything, but you will need a pressure cooker. Like I said, read through the teks and FAQ about it.


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Re: Need Help! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1104472 - 12/02/02 05:49 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

No problem.  :grin:


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