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boiling/draining grains---how long before you load them in jars?
    #11033202 - 09/10/09 09:53 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I just watched rr video and i will be doing the toliet paper test to make sure the grains aren't to wet. but....

how long do you usualy wait after boiling and draining the grains before you load them into the jars? i know after you drain your supposed to shake well to allow the steam and excess water to escape. but what kind of timeframe am i looking at here before loading the grains? Do I just let them sit for a couple min., hrs?

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Re: boiling/draining grains---how long before you load them in jars? [Re: subiedude]
    #11033221 - 09/10/09 09:57 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

What i do is simmer until there are the white heads poking out at the end of the grains as well as about 5 % of the grains in the pot should be exploded ,and i just drain and fill the jars right away !this has been working for me!

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Re: boiling/draining grains---how long before you load them in jars? [Re: dmtcorey]
    #11033276 - 09/10/09 10:11 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

15 minutes - 20 minutes should be fine! Just shake well for a couple of minutes first!

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Re: boiling/draining grains---how long before you load them in jars? [Re: fordrew]
    #11033318 - 09/10/09 10:19 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

"After the soak, you only really need to boil for a few minutes to get the grains hot, so that surface moisture will evaporate when you drain them through a strainer.  Most of the excess water will drain out the strainer, but the rest needs to be steamed off the surface by tossing the grains in the colander so they dry off completely.  When the grains are dry on the surface, load your jars."
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Re: boiling/draining grains---how long before you load them in jars? [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
    #11033361 - 09/10/09 10:31 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

"You shouldn't be soaking in the jar.  Use a large kettle, and rinse the grains first to remove the chaff and grain dust before you begin the soak.

In the tek below, coffee is optional, so if you use plain water, skip the addition of lime.  You still need gypsum though.

My rye tek:
Measure out your organic rye berries from a health food store, one cup for each quart jar you intend to make. Place them in a large pot. Rinse the heck out of them. Fill the pot with hot tap water, shake and swirl it around and pour it out. Do this three or four times until the water you pour out is clear. You'll be able to see when you have nice clean water to pour off instead of water filled with chaff and dirt. You want to now cover the rye berries with three times as much hot tap water as you have rye. Use half coffee and half plain water. In other words, if you have two inches of rye in the bottom of your pan, you should have six inches of water/coffee above that, for a total of 8 inches.  Add 1/4 teaspoon per cup of rye of gypsum. Stir these into the water/grain well. Cover and leave this to sit for 24-36 hours. Don't freak out if you go 48 hours and it smells like it's fermenting. No problem. Stir well and set the pot on the stove. Bring to a boil. Boil for ten minutes, then, WHILE BOILING, drain the contents through a very large colander. (spaghetti strainer) If you're making a large batch, you may need more than one colander. Tip the colander side to side to get the rye to drain as much of the water as you can. Then, shake the colander in order to 'toss' the grain. This will cause a lot of steam to rise from your rye. Great. Do this a time or two, then let it sit for five minutes, then repeat. When all the moisture that will drip or evaporate from your rye has already done so, load your jars. The rye should look and feel dry to the touch when you load the jars. All the moisture you need is inside the grain. Fill jars no more than 2/3 full if they are to receive grain to grain transfers, or no more than 3/4 full if they are to be inoculated by spore syringe or agar wedge. Use a lid with a synthetic filter disk, polyfill, tyvek or similar. Cover with foil and PC the jars for at least 90 minutes at 15lbs. I use 120 minutes. When the jars are cool, they're ready to inoculate."
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