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SuchSmartMonkeys
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SmartMonkeys choose Ramen Tek... Anybody?
#11030864 - 09/09/09 09:49 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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So i came up with this idea the other day on a whim when i was eating some Ramen at the same time as preparing a bunch of BRF cakes... I looked at the ingredients list, and it sounded pretty much like a PF cake without the verm and with a few extras (see link below). In the PF tek, the verm pretty much just gives the sub body (sorry for my terminology, any better word?), myc wouldn't be able to colonize through some muddy BRF; the shape of the noodles provides all the body (air pockets and such) the myc would need, and the noodles are pretty much flour.
I ended up putting a pot on the stove, putting in the noodles without the seasoning packet, boiling for a few minutes until they were starting to pull apart from each other and no longer crunchy (not as soft as i would make for eating though...). Strained the noodles, and put the on some paper towel to steam off for a few minutes. Loaded it into a quart jar and tossed it in the PC with all of my BRF cakes. After coming out of the PC, it had taken on the shape of the jar, and the noodles didn't want to shake apart, but it is in about the formation it comes out of the package in (not compacted, plenty of spaces throughout...). Shot it up with a couple CCs (2 or 3 i think...) of a (i think) Burma LC prepared by Just_Me. This was a few days ago, so far there is great colonization... I'll post a few pics later.
I just found this OLD thread... It has all of the ingredients of Ramen listed, so i won't bother. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/3133352#3133352 I have no idea how that got away with being in advanced myc (especially with the OP calling the sub a casing, and everyone in the thread following suit), but the past is the past... I'm not certain the OP ever went through with his idea because he never posted results (or even talked about the preparation process other than hypothetically); has anyone else here ever tried this? I couldn't find any real mention of it anywhere...
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Mastermind729
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: SuchSmartMonkeys]
#11030927 - 09/09/09 09:54 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wow man, hope this works for you. If so I might even try it for the nostalgic effect. I mean who doesn't live off of Ramen noodles while in college? My first semester in I didn't have a microwave so I just ran the noodles under the faucet and ate em crunchy. Mushrooms would definitely make em better
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SuchSmartMonkeys
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: Mastermind729]
#11031042 - 09/09/09 10:06 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mastermind729 said: Wow man, hope this works for you. If so I might even try it for the nostalgic effect. I mean who doesn't live off of Ramen noodles while in college? My first semester in I didn't have a microwave so I just ran the noodles under the faucet and ate em crunchy. Mushrooms would definitely make em better 
hahahahaha, thank you sir, that's basically why i'm doing it... Was eating a ramen packet and thought of how many times i've lived on ramen (and way too many mushrooms also...), and got to wondering if mushrooms could live on ramen too... Poor college students like ramen AND mushrooms, right?! Why shouldn't mushrooms like Ramen noodles and poor college students also...
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: SuchSmartMonkeys]
#11031052 - 09/09/09 10:07 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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This should be interesting. Hehehe. Plus, I like your logic. Keep us updated!
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: Dynoo]
#11031076 - 09/09/09 10:10 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: Dynoo]
#11031084 - 09/09/09 10:12 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Very interesting. I just grabbed a packet and read the ingredients, just might work! Just one suggestion though, I would grind the noodles up into a flour while dry, and then do the BRF tek.
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SuchSmartMonkeys
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: tajmahal420]
#11031102 - 09/09/09 10:15 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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tajmahal420 said: Very interesting. I just grabbed a packet and read the ingredients, just might work! Just one suggestion though, I would grind the noodles up into a flour while dry, and then do the BRF tek.
i thought about doing this, but i explained this logic in my first post... the verm is there for the flour to cover so the myc has a consistency of substrate the myc can colonize. The Ramen noodles already have a great structure for the colonization of fungus... Or so i hope, that's one of the main things being tested here...
gotta go to the store, and drink a beer and smoke a spliff with Just_Me, when i get back, i'll post pics...
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nastos
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: SuchSmartMonkeys]
#11031111 - 09/09/09 10:17 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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this should be fuckin awesome
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: SuchSmartMonkeys]
#11031134 - 09/09/09 10:21 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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BTW, I think we'll require some pics on this one
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: Mastermind729]
#11031186 - 09/09/09 10:28 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm coming around to the idea that verm also provides some mineral that is promoting growth. My cat did a comparison of brf to verm ratios affect on growth. He found that the higher amount of verm increased growth where one would expect the opposite since brf is the nutrient base. The pics of myc eating away aluminum trays also gives pause to the idea that myc can't digest vermiculite.
My cat is going to try straight brown rice sometime soon. Just cooked and loaded into jars.
Can't wait to see your results. gl
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: Mastermind729]
#11031191 - 09/09/09 10:28 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Don't forget to case with the spice packet
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: anonjon]
#11031249 - 09/09/09 10:38 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I imagine you would have better results grinding it up in a coffee grinder and mixing it with verm. prolly holds moisture better
But i still love how much of a staple Ramen is for my age bracket. Hated it, now i don't know what I would do without it...
Psylocybe flavored Ramen, sounds tastier than chicken!
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: lolskies]
#11031420 - 09/09/09 11:02 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you get the mycelium to colonize it in that brick form it's already in, it might make surprisingly tasty/active edible myc cake lol.
Maybe even fruit it, and not even pick the shrooms. Just eat it whole. It would be like you grew the toppings for your myc cake.
This sounds awesome lol.
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nastos
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: ttsk8r]
#11031435 - 09/09/09 11:03 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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ttsk8r said: Don't forget to case with the spice packet 
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Miscusi
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: nastos]
#11031485 - 09/09/09 11:15 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: Miscusi]
#11032118 - 09/10/09 01:16 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am absolutely 100% in support of this experiment.
             
In 4 years the shroomery will be dominated by ramen teks and we will all laugh at the silliness of rice flour and bird seed (ha!) and you, SmartMonkeys, will be hailed as a god-king. 
It has been foreseen.
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: SuchSmartMonkeys]
#11032220 - 09/10/09 01:40 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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SuchSmartMonkeys said: the verm is there for the flour to cover so the myc has a consistency of substrate the myc can colonize.
This experiment may work just fine, RR has grown on a lot of odd substances. I don't think your logic is correct on this one though. Verm has another very important job of holding moisture better than BRF can do on it's own. This is also why fruiting straight from rye will give you smaller or fewer flushes than spawning it to coir. Just my thoughts..
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: breakfast]
#11032264 - 09/10/09 01:53 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you use straight ramen, I imagine it will be a bit difficult to tell when the mycelium is colonizing the ramen.
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: Lostkeys]
#11032270 - 09/10/09 01:54 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lostkeys said: If you use straight ramen, I imagine it will be a bit difficult to tell when the mycelium is colonizing the ramen.
I'd like to think if there was fungus growing on my ramen i would be able to tell..
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Re: Using Ramen noodles as a substrate? Anybody? [Re: nastos]
#11032276 - 09/10/09 01:58 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, I'm just thinking it'll be difficult to tell white apart from off-white.
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