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Monotub question
    #11019523 - 09/08/09 08:11 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

ok i've seen some really good teks on monotubs on here.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5276282
this is probably the best thread i've found on it. it's pretty much self maintaining as far as i can see, once you close it, you do not re-open untill harvest.

my question is, when you have a non-translucent tub, how does it get light? you must have to make some sort of clear cover , right?
  but then , they really don't get the proper light due to the tall walls of the tub. in this case, is a fluorescent 6500k a must?

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Re: Monotub question [Re: smurpht]
    #11019533 - 09/08/09 08:16 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i believe a lot of people buy plexi-glass and make that their lid. Not sure on your second question. I think i remember RR saying that 6500k is the best, but i could be wrong :shrug:

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Re: Monotub question [Re: subiedude]
    #11019550 - 09/08/09 08:24 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Yea, thats the best lighting spectrum.  I just taped clear plastic to the top of mine since I had it laying around.  I have a light above each one, but if you want to stack them, you will have to have clear sides.  That is the best monotub tek.  I use large doses witch is the same basic tek, but he stacks his 3 high.

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Re: Monotub question [Re: HiddenIdentity]
    #11019560 - 09/08/09 08:28 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Yea, thats the best lighting spectrum.  I just taped clear plastic to the top of mine since I had it laying around.  I have a light above each one, but if you want to stack them, you will have to have clear sides.  That is the best monotub tek.  I use large doses witch is the same basic tek, but he stacks his 3 high.




how far from the cover of the lid should a fluorescent be?

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Re: Monotub question [Re: smurpht]
    #11019561 - 09/08/09 08:29 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Glad Press n Seal on the top of ur tubs - like these -

Edited by MightyWhite (09/08/09 08:32 AM)

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Re: Monotub question [Re: MightyWhite]
    #11019581 - 09/08/09 08:41 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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how far from the cover of the lid should a fluorescent be?




Mine is about 2 inches from the lid.  I have a lamp shade over each of my tubs, then a cord tied to the middle with a florescent "swirl" light hanging down from it.  It almost touches the cover.

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Re: Monotub question [Re: MightyWhite]
    #11019610 - 09/08/09 08:59 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Glad Press n Seal on the top of ur tubs - like these -





what size tub is recommended? i can find 68L ones here different colors for 8 bux

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Re: Monotub question [Re: smurpht]
    #11019631 - 09/08/09 09:06 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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what size tub is recommended? i can find 68L ones here different colors for 8 bux




If you're going to buy a new tub then get one with a clear lid.

And I think Ohmatic's tek is a little outdated.  Look for one by Monstermitch, it's probably better.

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you do not re-open untill harvest.




You don't have to open a Monotub but it's better if you do.  If you have the time, open it a few times a day.  The polyfilled holes will work on their own but more air exchanges is better.

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Re: Monotub question [Re: tall dwarf]
    #11019644 - 09/08/09 09:12 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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what size tub is recommended? i can find 68L ones here different colors for 8 bux




If you're going to buy a new tub then get one with a clear lid.

And I think Ohmatic's tek is a little outdated.  Look for one by Monstermitch, it's probably better.

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you do not re-open untill harvest.




You don't have to open a Monotub but it's better if you do.  If you have the time, open it a few times a day.  The polyfilled holes will work on their own but more air exchanges is better.





what about contams? would it be best to let the tub fully colonize before you consider opening the lid and fanning?

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Re: Monotub question [Re: subiedude]
    #11019659 - 09/08/09 09:17 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Yes you let the tub fully colonize before opening the lid, but it's not to prevent contams, it's to prevent fresh air too early.

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Re: Monotub question [Re: smurpht]
    #11019675 - 09/08/09 09:25 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I use 14 gallon tubs -
This is how I do em.....
1 brick coir
1 quart worm castings or spent coffee grounds or a combo of 2 cups each
1 quart verm
6 or 7 quarts spawn

Bottom holes are at 5 1/2 inches from bottom of tub and are 1 inch in diameter, 2 holes per SIDE
Top holes are 1 and 1/2 inch in diameter,1 hole on each END of tub,as high as you can put them
6 holes in tub total

Between 1 brick of coir and ingredients,and 7 quarts spawn,it fills the tub up perfectly to about an inch below my holes on the sides of my tubs. I always layer the coir and spawn,kinda like a lasagna,ALWAYS starting with a spawn layer on the bottom first! and finishing with a spawn layer on top.
I use polyfill to stuff the holes and never take the top off....untill harvest,instead,I take poly out of the hole for a few hours a day for the FAE.
If you need any help Smurpht....pm me and I will happily walk you thru putting a mono together :grin:.

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Re: Monotub question [Re: tall dwarf]
    #11019796 - 09/08/09 09:58 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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And I think Ohmatic's tek is a little outdated.  Look for one by Monstermitch, it's probably better.




I see no difference between the 2.  Monotubs have not changed in design for 10 years...  Monstermitch is a little more detailed with his grow though.


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always layer the coir and spawn,kinda like a lasagna,ALWAYS starting with a spawn layer on the bottom first! and finishing with a spawn layer on top.




Its better to mix your spawn in evenly instead of layering.  Also, I would not add a frosting layer.  Dried up spawn on top has been linked to contams.  Mix it all up, put it in the tub, then put a thin layer of bulk on top. 

I let it sit for 10 days without looking at it.  I have the holes taped up, and the tub covered with a blanket.  When it is solid white, I fruit it, no casing layer.  Dont peek or open the tub (you can see whats going on through the lid).

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Re: Monotub question [Re: HiddenIdentity]
    #11019833 - 09/08/09 10:04 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

So far I've never had problems with the top "frosting" spawn layer drying up,I think if a sub is properly hydrated(feild capacity),frosting layer shouldnt dry up...at least it hasnt in my tubs.
Everybodys results can be different tho.

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Re: Monotub question [Re: MightyWhite]
    #11019933 - 09/08/09 10:27 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I have never done a frosting layer, and I know a lot of people that use it. 

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    No, let coir be the top layer. Let no spawn be exposed.


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HiddenIdentity said:


      Ok, Im taking your word for this.  Most other monotub threads talk about adding a "frosting layer"

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I pour 80% of my sub in my mono then mix my spawn in then cover with the 20% leftover and try to level it best I can.  safest in my opinion.

I frosted my first time and watched it mold in 2 days. neva again...





I dunno, a couple people told me not to use a frosting layer, so I havent.  I believe RR even warned against it, but I cant find that post.

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Re: Monotub question [Re: HiddenIdentity]
    #11020079 - 09/08/09 10:52 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

A frosting layer will significantly increase the chance of contams.  Many people have reported that.

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