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prematur purge?
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ok guys i made ayahuasca all day yesterday. it took me about 14 hours to complete it and it was the most effort i ever put into anything my entire life and it was a great experience. so this morning me n cousin both drank the caapi tea with no ill effects then waited about 20 minutes then drank the mimossa and honestly it was the most horrible tasting thing ive ever tasted lol. well the me n my cuz sat on my couch for about 5 minutes than purged everything we have eatin for the past week. i was wondering how long do u haf to keep the mimossa down befor u purge. any info on the purging area will help...thanx

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: taggman504]
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That sucks.  5 mins is not very long at all.


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doesn't mean we all see the same:mushroom2:

I pushed my fingers through the earth, returned this flower to the dirt. so it could live, I walked away now. But I know... Not a day goes by when I don't feel this burn. There's a point we pass from which we can't return. I've felt the cold rain of the coming storm
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Re: prematur purge? [Re: PreyToGod]
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yea oh well at least i had fun making it.

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: taggman504]
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Try extracting the DMT from the mimosa hostilis with Everclear alcohol, drying the liquid into a powder, and then capping it.  Or you can try a STB extraction and eat that.


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Re: prematur purge? [Re: joemolloy]
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ok thts great thanx man

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: taggman504]
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how long do you need 2 keep it down?

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: Positiv]
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yea thts wat im wondering too

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: taggman504]
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You probably need to hold it down for around 30 minutes to an hour. I would just extract or synthesize the DMT, and as said before, cap it. Take that and an MAOI. You should then be golden.

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: Feanor]
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I can make a nausea free brew every time. You didn't leave the mimosa to settle. What you should do is cook the mimosa as normal then when it's all done, leave it to settle for at least 20 minutes. Then pour off the liquid slowly into another glass, leave that to settle for 10 then pour it off again and finally drink. This takes out the majority of the crap that makes you want to heave your guts out and leaves a gorgeous (though acrid) juice.


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"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

"If boring drudgery was the way of the universe, everything would have killed itself long ago." - Spacerific

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: taggman504]
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The only way to the a mimosa tea is to do an egg-white filtration or something like that.

The reason for the nausea in the mimosa are the tannin's,they chew on the proteins that make up your stomach and make you throw up.The way to avoid that is to give them something to chew on before you ingest the brew.Like the proteins ins egg-yolk,or gelatin or milk.

I personally use milk,that works just fine and after you filtrate the precipitated milk you end up with a slightly biter tasting lemonade.Some people might not want to use milk because of the whole MAOI thing but IMO that is no problem.Milk doesn't contain a lot of tyramine to begin with and harmala's are RIMA's anyway.To each his own i guess.

Hope i helped.Also this is in celebration of my new avatar...:cool:


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Edited by 13.step (09/08/09 06:05 AM)

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: 13.step]
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How do you use milk in a mimosa brew? I've always wanted to do this. In the past I have simply mixed the milk with the brew before drinking. This caused the tannins to dissapear but it still didn't work out very nicely nausea-wise. Now I stick to yanking out all the residue and hack the taste of the brew sliding down my throat.


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"Everything there is, and all that there is, is a Pattern of unspeakable proportion. The Pattern contains everything that is, completely fixed in succession, all the minimal particles interconnected in every way that is. Every way that is is not every conceivable way, because not everything that can be conceived is manifest in the pattern."

"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

"If boring drudgery was the way of the universe, everything would have killed itself long ago." - Spacerific

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: crkhd]
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thats funny when a brew is done right even if it was only down for 5 min it should work fine. once i drank a caapi and chaliponga tea the size of a coffee pot finished and in under 5 min puked the whole thing back into the pot. tripped for 8 hours then after glow.

personally i suggest sticking with caapi virdis and chaliponga but shrug.


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Re: prematur purge? [Re: crkhd]
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Yeah,you simply mix the Mimosa brew with the milk.I don't now if after that the tannins are active at all,probably not but you still have to filter it out,cheesecloth or a coffeefilter should do fine,if you have done it right you should end up with a transparent brew.

Also,if you are using Syrian rue divide the amount you are using in three and take them 10 minutes apart.

Last,it is a good idea to not have a completely empty stomach.Eat a loaf of bread or something and all should be fine.


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Re: prematur purge? [Re: 13.step]
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13.step said:
The only way to the a mimosa tea is to do an egg yolk filtration or something like that.

The reason for the nausea in the mimosa are the tannin's,they chew on the proteins that make up your stomach and make you throw up.The way to avoid that is to give them something to chew on before you ingest the brew.Like the proteins ins egg-yolk,or gelatin or milk.

I personally use milk,that works just fine and after you filtrate the precipitated milk you end up with a slightly biter tasting lemonade.Some people might not want to use milk because of the whole MAOI thing but IMO that is no problem.Milk doesn't contain a lot of tyramine to begin with and harmala's are RIMA's anyway.To each his own i guess.

Hope i helped.Also this is in celebration of my new avatar...:cool:


Egg yolks or egg whites?  How do you use egg yolks?

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: monkeyheaven]
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Sorry,egg-whites is what i meant...wasn't thinking.It all seems a bit complicated from what i read.You apparently have to bring the tea to a boil before reducing, with the egg-white in it.Sounds kinda complicated...I'll just stick to my milk tek.Works good.And i don't think it should interact with the Harmala's,i have to do a bit more reading into that one,and so should anybody wanting to try it.I am not thinking about hyper-tensive crisis here but rather increased anxiety due to the tyramine being converted to adrenaline.


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Re: prematur purge? [Re: 13.step]
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13.step said:
Yeah,you simply mix the Mimosa brew with the milk.I don't now if after that the tannins are active at all,probably not but you still have to filter it out,cheesecloth or a coffeefilter should do fine,if you have done it right you should end up with a transparent brew.

Also,if you are using Syrian rue divide the amount you are using in three and take them 10 minutes apart.

Last,it is a good idea to not have a completely empty stomach.Eat a loaf of bread or something and all should be fine.




if they are eating rue that should only have 1.5 or even 1g alot of the time people misinformedly take too much.


second im really about sticking with fasting not eating bread


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: thedudenj]
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That is a small amount of rue,is that active?

I was just saying that in my experience,drinking the brew on a completely empty stomach gives more nausea.Drinking an unfiltered mimosa tea on an empty stomach gives me abdominal pain just thinking about it.People fasting should really do a filtration or stick to the traditional plants.


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Re: prematur purge? [Re: 13.step]
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nah im just telling that cause its not :confused:


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: thedudenj]
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Bad day?

IMO that is a small amount and if you trip you will have a very short trip.


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Re: prematur purge? [Re: 13.step]
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nah IME in my experience that's not really at all. i have many people that completely are fine with that exact dose.


5g is totally poisoning your body. 3g is really the max any one should take and its too much


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: thedudenj]
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I like a good 4 grams of rue to make sure my trip is nice and long.  But we all have different bodies, constitutions, and reactions, so make sure to experiment.


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Re: prematur purge? [Re: joemolloy]
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yeah trust me i have worked with more then 30 people ... i have been brewing for groups of people for a while now


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: thedudenj]
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im gonna give it another try in about a week. i REALY love preparing it. it was realy meaningful and joyful experience even though i had a premature purge

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: taggman504]
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i dunno about you but do you start feeling it course thru your body while preparing it? thats generally the case wieth me and my people


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: thedudenj]
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dude to think about it yea it does

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: thedudenj]
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i was wondering if rubbing alcohol always leaves residue when it evaporates? if so wat should i get to extract the dmt out of Mimosa

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: taggman504]
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... no it doesnt


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: thedudenj]
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i got 70% and it leaves residue behind. im guessing i shouldnt use it.

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: taggman504]
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nah that works ... iso  doesnt leave anything residue behind it evaporates clean the other 30 % is water ... which isnt harmful and which you can evaporate


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: thedudenj]
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ok cool thanks

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Re: prematur purge? [Re: taggman504]
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70%





91%




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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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