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Offlinecheerios
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not very potent
    #1100508 - 12/01/02 10:40 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I have a friend that has some PF TEK B+ mushies that turned out to do nothing.HE has grown this and other strains the same way and they turned out to be killer.Do you have any idea what the problem is?


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Re: not very potent [Re: cheerios]
    #1100550 - 12/01/02 11:37 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

from all this trash talking on the B+ i think theres a bad batch going around... haha but i have no idea what really could be the problem, maybe tolerance


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Re: not very potent [Re: shroomizzy]
    #1100807 - 12/01/02 01:25 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Usually the problem with potency can be traced to how it was dried.


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Re: not very potent [Re: SixCee]
    #1100847 - 12/01/02 01:38 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

yes... if you used heat to dry it you probably destroyed the psilocin/psilocybin compounds. Therefore you wouldn't feel a thing off them.


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Re: not very potent [Re: cheerios]
    #1101680 - 12/01/02 08:59 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Drying method, growing conditions, substrate preperation, etc. all have to do with potency. Elaborate.


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Re: not very potent [Re: cheerios]
    #1101776 - 12/01/02 09:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I have heard many reports of B+ lacking in potency using the PF Tek method.
Maybe the natural characteristics of the B+ on BRF lack the necessary nutrients to inhibit its size and potency.
I would probably say to use poo if you are growing a larger type of mushroom, so that you may have enough nutrients to support the size and alkaloid production.


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Re: not very potent [Re: TeKn0]
    #1103133 - 12/02/02 05:06 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Psilocybe cubensis at its best isnt very potent. Its just he genetics of your spore match - some use precursors well, others not so well. Try millet - rye and brf are a waste of time.


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Re: not very potent [Re: cheerios]
    #1103231 - 12/02/02 06:59 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

B+ is my first grow - actually, I just harvested my first casing flush this morning - and what i'd had off of a couple cakes was solid, I've done it three times now and the most I've taken is only a little under 2 dry grams (been kinda waiting for this casing flush) but the effects were about what I'd expected for that amount, and are pretty much on target with a good level 1/light level 2....I guess just eating more, if you have 'em, would solve the potency issue for practical purposes (unless they hardly have any effect at all, that'd be kinda weird).


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Re: not very potent [Re: TheHobbit]
    #1103760 - 12/02/02 01:31 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

>> I've done it three times now and the most I've taken is only a little under 2 dry grams

I like HUGE doses.

Try 1/4 ounce. It's the only way of life...


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Re: not very potent [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #1103822 - 12/02/02 01:56 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I have found that B+ on birdseed produces some very potent mushrooms while B+ on BRF is pretty weak.


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Re: not very potent [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #1103843 - 12/02/02 02:02 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I'm with BioTeK, more is definately better, IMHO :cool:

 


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Re: not very potent [Re: Fred Garvin]
    #1103961 - 12/02/02 02:54 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

If your havin trouble wit potency, harvest them when the veil just starts to form and eat fresh (not at subway). I find 5 of these young bastards are good for a trip!


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Re: not very potent [Re: New Name]
    #1104062 - 12/02/02 03:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

yea, i just had a thread about this...well, i'm ALL ABOUT B+'s! my 2nd flush from my myco bag is coming. the 1st flush tripped me VERY hard! of course they were fresh from the cake. and it was a mycobag cake. what's in them things? looks like birdseed...so, if that's the case, use birdseed, cause like i said, on a mycobag, they were great!


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Re: not very potent [Re: shroomizzy]
    #1104556 - 12/02/02 06:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I did B+ for my first grow recently and although I didn't get any full grown mushies (humidity prob) I got a fair amount of aborts and. Just to test the potency of my first grow I blended 1gr with some OJ. I expected just the mild buzz, a little extra aura on stuff and ended flying pretty hi for that amount. It felt like 3 gr. I was very impressed with the potency of SW B+. I've had terrible contams w/ some EQ and AC from TLG lately. I don't know if is me or TLG but I used the same proceedure as I did with the SW B+ and had no contam with the SW B+.
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Re: not very potent [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1104887 - 12/02/02 08:24 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

If you think the veil has any relevance to the potency of any psilocybe mushroom then you are sadly mistaken. Can you find any references or studies that can indicate this at all??
Any cubensis on millet will be more potent because millet contains better precursors for alkaloid production. B+ on millet will still be weak compared to GTs or Puertos on millet.
BRF is a waste of time for any cubensis. Once you've tried millet you wont go back


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Re: not very potent [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1104893 - 12/02/02 08:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

When the veil breaks the mushroom has stopped producing psyilibin(sp??) and the mushroom will continue to grow and get bigger but the psychodelic content will remain the same. So 3g. of shrooms that were harvested right before the veil broke will make you trip harder than 3g of fully grown ones.

EDIT: Can you tell me where I can find out more about this millet substrate?


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Re: not very potent [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1104925 - 12/02/02 08:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Bluemeanie, do you suggest any millet teks, etc?  You've got me interested  :tongue:


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Re: not very potent [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1105049 - 12/02/02 09:06 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: not very potent [Re: New Name]
    #1105054 - 12/02/02 09:07 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the link  :grin:


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Re: not very potent [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1105081 - 12/02/02 09:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Damnit I really need to get a pressure cooker.


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