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Re: DUB TUB [Re: tall dwarf]
    #11005314 - 09/05/09 05:15 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

thanks for posting golden.
i did the reading, the search baring, the listening, the questioning and obvious the posting
this is the plan and it will work:thumbup:

www.mushroomvideos.com, my 1-8 is the same as the video, just a smaller tub
the videos are the same as this, just different size tub:
i updated what i said cause before wasnt right before.



updated: no polly fill, inch half perlite

CAKE
1. knock up jar pf cake style, B+,
2. once colonized soak cakes for 24 hours, dunk in water and roll in verm,
3. fill about an inch half of perlite in 6 qt.
4. place aluminum square below cake to barrier between perlite and cake
5. place in 6qt mini shot gun.
6. hide small tub in LARGE speakers.
7. fan blowing against wall behind speakers, indirect air flow
8. give at least 9 hours of light, mist, eventually fruit.


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Re: MAMA TRIED [Re: mama]
    #11005346 - 09/05/09 05:26 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

With all due respect, you don't know what you're doing and you clearly will fail.  You seem eager to grow mushrooms so why not use these to start:  http://www.themadseason.com/growbags.asp
While you let these grow use the time to research other methods.


Regarding your "plan," 1. a dub tub is one tub upside down on top of another, that's not what you're doing so don't call it a dub tub.  2. you don't put polyfill in shotgun holes.  3.  putting the tub in a speaker defeats the purpose of a shotgun.

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Re: MAMA TRIED [Re: tall dwarf]
    #11005354 - 09/05/09 05:29 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

theres no reason it wont work
its just a tub, and it does work i found examples of this in the search
its basically the same as the videos, dunk and roll place in a plastic container.

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Re: MAMA TRIED [Re: mama]
    #11005381 - 09/05/09 05:43 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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mama said:
theres no reason it wont work
its just a tub, and it does work i found examples of this in the search
its basically the same as the videos, dunk and roll place in a plastic container.




You can safely ignore the jackass above. But you do want to make sure that air is able to flow up thru the holes in the bottom of the fc. If you are concerned about contamination, there's no reason you can't use polyfill in the holes, but it's generally unnecessary.

Your plan sounds ok, but a 6 quart shotgun fc is a pretty significant innovation. You should probably research and try to find an example to imitate. Since this is a secret grow, have you considered letting the cakes fruit invitro (inside the jars), so that you don't have to have a fruiting chamber at all?

Another option is to just use a sealed fruiting chamber (no holes at all). It's blasphemy to suggest this on this forum for some reason, but it does work perfectly fine. Then you don't have to worry about the hole size / rh in your small fc. It's also well suited to being in a dirty, dusty place (hidden behind a speaker).


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Re: MAMA TRIED [Re: anonjon]
    #11005397 - 09/05/09 05:47 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i have considered even just making the stones, in the jar.
i like the idea of no holes too though ill have to fan it 4 times a day, which isnt a bad idea really.
pollyfill would keep out the contams mostly or i could just make it no holes.  and fan it 4 times a day
could give it holes and polyfill and just indirectly fan it, like pointing a fan against a wall behind the tub

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Re: DUB TUB [Re: mama]
    #11005449 - 09/05/09 06:01 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i ment one choice out of those, either polyfill, no poly, or no holes i ment.  consideirng it will be in a speaker it might be best no holes to avoid contam from dust etc, yeah?

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Re: noob idiots helping noob idiots [Re: anonjon]
    #11005461 - 09/05/09 06:03 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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anonjon said:
If you are concerned about contamination, there's no reason you can't use polyfill in the holes




the reason people use polyfill has nothing to do with contams.  It is used to prevent too much humidity from escaping the tub.

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Your plan sounds ok, but a 6 quart shotgun fc is a pretty significant innovation.





yes, brilliantly innovative.
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6-8 qt tub [Re: mama]
    #11005473 - 09/05/09 06:06 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

It's basically like the video just different size tub

:smile: "cause i did it mmmmmmyyyy wayyyyyyy" :smile:

3inchs perlite bottom rather than 1.5 inchs so that way theres enough perlite

The size issue being 6qt, i might go for 8 qt  that way they have enough room when they grow taller

i know it's for humidity, i figured it also helps keep out some contams, get caught on the polly rather than inside. 

i ment one choice out of those, either polyfill, no poly, or no holes i ment.  consideirng it will be in a speaker it might be best no holes to avoid contam



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UPDATED smalltub [Re: mama]
    #11005524 - 09/05/09 06:18 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

8 steps
B+ plan easy as cake

1. knock up jar pf cake style, B+,
2. once fully colonized let sit for a week, letsoak cakes for 24 hours, dunk in water and roll in verm,
3. fill about an 3 inchs of perlite in 8 qt.
4. place aluminum square below cake to barrier between perlite and cake
5. place in 8qt mini shot gun, polly filled holes so mushrooms breath.
6. hide small tub in LARGE speakers.
7. fan blowing against wall behind speakers, indirect air flow
8. give at least 9 hours of light, mist, fan, light, eventually fruit.

Edited by mama (09/05/09 06:45 PM)

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Re: noob idiots helping noob idiots [Re: tall dwarf]
    #11005560 - 09/05/09 06:29 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: noob idiots helping noob idiots [Re: anonjon]
    #11005619 - 09/05/09 06:49 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

The list is secure and is availble when I need it.  Thank you everyone, nastos. elementalwrath, anajon, even golden student, just me, manashaman, fungusfeller thanks for all your help and patience people.  even those i didnt mention, thank you.  im set.  i guess ill keep seaching the search bar and read more posts.  the learning isnt done here.


8 steps
B+ plan easy as cake

1. knock up jar pf cake style, B+,
2. once fully colonized let sit for a week, letsoak cakes for 24 hours, dunk in water and roll in verm,
3. fill about an 3 inchs of perlite in 8 qt.
4. place aluminum square below cake to barrier between perlite and cake
5. place in 8qt mini shot gun, polly filled holes so mushrooms breath.
6. hide small tub in LARGE speakers.
7. fan blowing against wall behind speakers, indirect air flow
8. give at least 9 hours of light, mist, fan, light, eventually fruit.

Edited by mama (09/05/09 09:44 PM)

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Re: MAMA TRIED [Re: tall dwarf]
    #11006723 - 09/05/09 10:43 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: MAMA TRIED [Re: nastos]
    #11008191 - 09/06/09 07:14 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

um, you accidentally rated him 5 instead of 0....


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Re: MAMA TRIED [Re: anonjon]
    #11008406 - 09/06/09 09:17 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Hey Mama sorry for being a little harsh yesterday.  In the morning you were about to buy and case a presterilized bag of WBS and a few hours later you had moved on to doing a pf-tek grow so I figured you didn't know what you were doing.  You should allow your account to receive PMs and I'll send you something helpful.

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Re: MAMA TRIED [Re: anonjon]
    #11008621 - 09/06/09 10:26 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

OOps. fixxed :thumbup:

and golden student mama actually is learning alot. you should be a little more respectful if you are going to post on someones thread u have no idea how much time she has put into learning about mush cult.


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Re: MAMA TRIED [Re: nastos]
    #11008749 - 09/06/09 11:02 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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nastos said: u have no idea how much time she has put into learning about mush cult.



Well as of yesterday morning she knew very little http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11002885.&nbsp; She was bumping her thread every 10 minutes and constantly editing the posts.  I'm not usually one to bark at people and tell them to use the search engine but in this case I though it was deserved.  Anyway I tried to give her some real help via PM but her account doesn't accept them.

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Re: MAMA TRIED [Re: tall dwarf]
    #11009017 - 09/06/09 12:06 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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nastos said: u have no idea how much time she has put into learning about mush cult.



Well as of yesterday morning she knew very little http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11002885.&nbsp; She was bumping her thread every 10 minutes and constantly editing the posts.  I'm not usually one to bark at people and tell them to use the search engine but in this case I though it was deserved.  Anyway I tried to give her some real help via PM but her account doesn't accept them.




well i've actually been communicating with her via PM since last month.. i agree the search function can be useful but doesnt always bring up exactly what the person is looking for.. people learn in diffeent ways.

Honestly, no one forced you to read the thread and if you have nothing useful to add than maybe you shouldn't post at all.. since you are bitching about her bumping her threads than why are you bumping it.. comeon' man show some love.


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Re: MAMA TRIED [Re: nastos]
    #11009156 - 09/06/09 12:40 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Mama IMO if your going to put perlite in the bottom of your FC, you should elevate it a little in your speaker box.  You should also put 1/4 inch holes every 2 inches.  The reason you do this is so air can flow through the damp perlite and bring moisture up to the mushrooms.

  Your idea may work, Ive just never heard of it working.  Im not bashing your idea either, Im just trying to make your first grow a successful one.

  Before I found this site, I tried to set up my own grow area with no idea what to do.  I spent at least 5 hours hollowing out a big dresser...  connected florescent lights, and hollowed out every other drawer.  I planed on putting the spawn in every second drawer.  This plan obviously would not work.  It had absolutely no FAE.  It could not be misted since it was wood, and the shrooms only had 3 inches to grow...  I had to scrap the whole thing, and set up a couple shotgun FCs.

  Im just trying to help you out so you dont put a lot of time and effort into something that may not work.  Since your not sure what your doing, maybe it would be best to go with something someone else has proven to work for your first grow.

  But you know what they say- opinions are like assholes, everybody has one...  good luck!

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Re: MAMA TRIED [Re: HiddenIdentity]
    #11009282 - 09/06/09 01:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

im alot more certain i know what im doing than before, though im ready to fail if i do.For the air flow ill have a baby lil baby small low powered fan blowing against a wall, not a big fan, small fan blowing against the wall.  the tub will be visible from the wall, but not by people walking around in the room, the air flow will bounce off the wall, thus causing a good air flow.  if it were a big fan  i wouldnt recommend that because it would be too powerfull and might even increase chances of failure, just might.  a small baby fan low powered off the wall. bouncing back lightly softly against the tub, very gently, just enough for free air exchange


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the air will bounce off the wall and hit the tub lightly, thus, airflow :smile:  whatcha think?

if humidity becomes a problem, tape a plastic behind the speaker, poke holes, put a computer fan and timer inside.  this really helps me it seems if i think creative too

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Re: MAMA TRIED [Re: mama]
    #11010198 - 09/06/09 03:46 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

What about your light source?  If you put a light in the speaker it will be obvious to anyone walking in the room.  Not only behind the speaker but probably through the grill in front.  If stealth is very important to you then I think it's better to tuck a FC away in a closet than inside a speaker right out in the open.

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