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Re: DUB TUB [Re: mama]
    #11004951 - 09/05/09 03:36 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

A 6QT DUB TUB PLAN:
1. knock wbs bag up or knock up cake jar, either.
2. once colonized pasturize coffee grounds (nitrogen), coir (pure coconut from pet store) (nutrients), and verm (holds moisture).
3. Put pot on stove and pour in 1 gallon water.
4. Turn that baby on high, get the temp up to 170F.  A long stem thermometer is nice in this case
5. Throw in your coir, let it expand until its stir-able.
6. mix all additives up in a bowl, pour it all in.
7. Make sure you mix it all in really good, you want an even consistency.
8. Put lid on pot and let it sit for a minute or two Substrate will get into 200F range, this is fine
9. Pour substrate into bucket, cover, let cool.  It will stay above 170F for an hour and cool overnight
10. This will be your mix.
11. add that mix thats currently in the bucket to colonized WBS and put the blend of the two in a 6qt tub
12. put small tub into large speakers for stealth
13. harvest the fungus and hydrate the sub between flushs

or



CAKE
1. knock up jar pf cake style, B+,
2. once colonized dunk and roll,
3. fill about an inch of perlite in 6 qt.
4. place aluminum square below cake to barrier between perlite and cake
5. place in 6qt mini shot gun pollyfill holes.
6. hide small tub in LARGE speakers.
7. fan blowing against wall behind speakers, indirect air flow
8. give at least 9 hours of light, mist, leventually fruit.  Rinse perlite.  Reuse perlite for next flush?


Edited by mama (09/05/09 05:05 PM)

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Re: DUB TUB [Re: mama]
    #11004977 - 09/05/09 03:41 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

A 6QT DUB TUB PLAN:
1. knock wbs bag up or knock up cake jar, either.
2. once colonized pasturize coffee grounds (nitrogen), coir (pure coconut from pet store) (nutrients), and verm (holds moisture).
3. Put pot on stove and pour in 1 gallon water.
4. Turn that baby on high, get the temp up to 170F.  A long stem thermometer is nice in this case
5. Throw in your coir, let it expand until its stir-able.
6. mix all additives up in a bowl, pour it all in.
7. Make sure you mix it all in really good, you want an even consistency.
8. Put lid on pot and let it sit for a minute or two Substrate will get into 200F range, this is fine
9. Pour substrate into bucket, cover, let cool.  It will stay above 170F for an hour and cool overnight
10. This will be your mix.
11. add that mix thats currently in the bucket to colonized WBS and put the blend of the two in a 6qt tub
12. put small tub into large speakers for stealth
13. harvest the fungus and hydrate the sub between flushs

6 qt QUESTIONS:
1. (answered)
2. (answered)
3. (answered)
4. (answered)
5. (answered)
6. (answered)
7. (answered)
8. cakes: crumble cake over perlite, or  stand them in perlite with aluminum at the bottom?
9. wbs:  Is a shot gun only for cakes and cake crumble, not wbs?
10. wbs: any perlite at the bottom or is that just for cakes, the perlite layer at the bottom?
11. wbs or cakes: do you need to pasturize or sterilize the perlite for the cakes tub and wbs tub?

Edited by mama (09/05/09 04:07 PM)

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Re: DUB TUB [Re: mama]
    #11005062 - 09/05/09 04:08 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Only 4 more questions to be answered.  This is going to be awesome.

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Re: DUB TUB [Re: mama]
    #11005080 - 09/05/09 04:12 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

mama said:

8. cakes: crumble cake over perlite, or  stand them in perlite with aluminum at the bottom?
9. wbs:  Is a shot gun only for cakes and cake crumble, not wbs?
10. wbs: any perlite at the bottom or is that just for cakes, the perlite layer at the bottom?
11. wbs or cakes: do you need to pasturize or sterilize the perlite for the cakes tub and wbs tub?




8. don't crumble. Counterproductive.
9. you can put wbs in a shotgun if you case it. For some reason it wont pin w/o casing.
10. perlite in cakes? why? since when?
11. only if you've used it before. New can go in as is.


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Re: DUB TUB [Re: anonjon]
    #11005103 - 09/05/09 04:16 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

right not mixed perlite into cake, but letting the cake sit on top of the perlite
take cake, place on alumnum foil, sit cake on perlite, right?

Edited by mama (09/05/09 04:19 PM)

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Re: DUB TUB [Re: mama]
    #11005110 - 09/05/09 04:18 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

usually better to put some kind of barrier to keep the myc from colonizing the perlite. Just to keep it cleaner for future use.


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Re: DUB TUB [Re: anonjon]
    #11005126 - 09/05/09 04:19 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

barrier, so thats where the square of aluminum foil comes in?
what would be better than an alumnum foil square under per cake to barrier?

Edited by mama (09/05/09 04:21 PM)

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Re: DUB TUB [Re: mama]
    #11005133 - 09/05/09 04:21 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

doesn't matter. Aluminum foil, folded sandwich baggie, jar lid, piece of tyvek, etc, etc


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Re: DUB TUB [Re: anonjon]
    #11005134 - 09/05/09 04:22 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

so a square of alumnum foil under each cake works just fine as a barrier?

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Re: DUB TUB [Re: mama]
    #11005136 - 09/05/09 04:23 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

mama said:
so a square of alumnum foil under each cake works just fine as a barrier?




It is a barrier. Are you trolling me?


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Re: DUB TUB [Re: anonjon]
    #11005138 - 09/05/09 04:24 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

no, u posted on my thread. was just checking cause i asked if a square of alumnum would work as an ideal barrier.
so i get it, jar lids, plastic, aluminum, anything to seperate the cake from the perlite.  makes sense

thanks anonjon

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Re: DUB TUB [Re: mama]
    #11005151 - 09/05/09 04:28 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

mama said:
no, u posted on my thread. was just checking cause i asked if a square of alumnum would work as an ideal barrier.





You'll see once you get going that cakes are hard to foul up. Optimization doesn't matter much. You could just as easily stick the cake directly in the perlite. It would benefit from the extra moisture reservoir. but you might find a mycelial network in your perlite. Does it matter? Probably not much.


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Re: DUB TUB [Re: mama]
    #11005153 - 09/05/09 04:29 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

how is crumbling cake counter productive when it gives more surface area to grow, right?  where is cake it just grows around it's circumfrance basically, right?

Edited by mama (09/05/09 04:36 PM)

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Re: DUB TUB [Re: mama]
    #11005157 - 09/05/09 04:30 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i hear casing increases chances of contam, is this true?

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Re: DUB TUB [Re: mama]
    #11005162 - 09/05/09 04:32 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

and at this point, could just cake, dunk and roll, place in a 6qt on alumnum barriers above a floor layer of perlite, like in the vids, except itll be a mini shot gun.    hows that sound? 

the wbs and casing sounds like more steps to cause a contam.  so cake, dunk and roll, alumonum square, floor of perlite, couldn't go wrong.

thanks alot btw, u really helped

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Re: DUB TUB [Re: mama]
    #11005208 - 09/05/09 04:43 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

instead of WBS:

1. knock up jar pf cake style,
2. once colonized dunk and roll,
3. fill about an inch of perlite in 6 qt.
4. place aluminum square below cake to barrier between perlite and cake
5. place in 6qt mini shot gun
6. hide small tub in LARGE speakers.
7. fan blowing against wall behind speakers, indirect air flow
8. fruit.  Rinse perlite.  Reuse perlite for next flush?

Edited by mama (09/05/09 04:45 PM)

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Re: DUB TUB [Re: mama]
    #11005210 - 09/05/09 04:44 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Casing mixes are pretty resistant to contam if done correctly. But there's no benefit to taking a perfectly good cake and smashing it without adding more nutrients. You're just forcing it to expend energy reforming itself. The point of crumbling a cake is to inoculate a larger quantity of substrate. There'd be no point to crumbling and adding a non-nutritive casing layer. It would work, but bring no benefit.


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Re: DUB TUB [Re: anonjon]
    #11005220 - 09/05/09 04:46 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

anonjon said:
Casing mixes are pretty resistant to contam if done correctly. But there's no benefit to taking a perfectly good cake and smashing it without adding more nutrients. You're just forcing it to expend energy reforming itself. The point of crumbling a cake is to inoculate a larger quantity of substrate. There'd be no point to crumbling and adding a non-nutritive casing layer. It would work, but bring no benefit.



hows this sound:

instead of WBS:

1. knock up jar pf cake style, B+,
2. once colonized dunk and roll,
3. fill about an inch of perlite in 6 qt.
4. place aluminum square below cake to barrier between perlite and cake
5. place in 6qt mini shot gun pollyfill holes.
6. hide small tub in LARGE speakers.
7. fan blowing against wall behind speakers, indirect air flow
8. give at least 9 hours of light, mist, leventually fruit.  Rinse perlite.  Reuse perlite for next flush?

Edited by mama (09/05/09 04:50 PM)

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Re: DUB TUB [Re: mama]
    #11005251 - 09/05/09 04:56 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

would that work?



instead of WBS:

CAKE
1. knock up jar pf cake style, B+,
2. once colonized dunk and roll,
3. fill about an inch of perlite in 6 qt.
4. place aluminum square below cake to barrier between perlite and cake
5. place in 6qt mini shot gun pollyfill holes.
6. hide small tub in LARGE speakers.
7. fan blowing against wall behind speakers, indirect air flow
8. give at least 9 hours of light, mist, leventually fruit.  Rinse perlite.  Reuse perlite for next flush?

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Re: MAMA TRIED [Re: mama]
    #11005285 - 09/05/09 05:06 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Is this the 3rd thread you've started today about the same thing?

A good plan for you:

1.stop posting
2.start reading

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