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Deja Vu
    #10997783 - 09/04/09 09:09 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

J. C. Callaway, [who] suggested in 1988 that DMT might be connected with visual dream phenomena, where levels of DMT in the brain are periodically elevated to induce visual dreaming and possibly other natural states of mind.

Is it possible to have Deja Vu from using DMT as a drug?

Personally, I have never done DMT nor have I had an opportunity to. But for those of you who have, have you ever gotten feelings of deja vu from it?


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Re: Deja Vu [Re: metalmorph]
    #10997814 - 09/04/09 09:20 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

when i do dmt, i always feel this. like i have been to this place many times throughout my life and it is extremely comforting yet utterly confusing at the same time. a very familiar feeling.


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Re: Deja Vu [Re: metalmorph]
    #10997856 - 09/04/09 09:33 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, for sure.

Everytime, it's kind of like de ja vu from the last experience.

I'll think, "Oh yeah, so these things all grow like this, how could I forget?"

I've felt as if I was in a place where I could feel the emotions of anyone on the planet,

but only their emotions from when they were at their best reverberated there,

and I just knew I'd either been there before or I was going back real soon.

At that time, the de ja vu was deeper than the creepy kind that we might experience from time to time.

It felt as if I was remembering something from before my birth, only it felt like the future since it was so fresh and new.

I feel very lucky to have been born into an environment that allows me to contemplate its mysteries.


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Re: Deja Vu [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
    #10997864 - 09/04/09 09:37 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

possibly, maybe not, having said that i do feel deja vu somewhat after a DMT trip so who knows i lay undecided


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Re: Deja Vu [Re: Jfiligree]
    #10998332 - 09/04/09 11:27 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

right after the last of 3 hits which led to my first and only life changing dmt breakthrough, i felt like all of this had happened before. like i was returning home after a long vacation. that was strange, what was to come was even more strange. dmt is a sacrament.


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Re: Deja Vu [Re: dummy]
    #10998947 - 09/04/09 01:21 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't say that my DMT experiences feel like deja vu, but after smoking DMT on a semi-regular basis some really weird things start to happen in my waking life.

Things like premonitions, halfway lucid dreams, TONS of synchronicities...

I'm sure deja vu could fit in there somewhere.


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Re: Deja Vu [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #10999969 - 09/04/09 05:04 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
I wouldn't say that my DMT experiences feel like deja vu, but after smoking DMT on a semi-regular basis some really weird things start to happen in my waking life.

Things like premonitions, halfway lucid dreams, TONS of synchronicities...

I'm sure deja vu could fit in there somewhere.




Me too.


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"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

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Re: Deja Vu [Re: crkhd]
    #11000014 - 09/04/09 05:12 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I've never done DMT, but Salvia sure has caused some radical deja-vu in me, both while on it, and after.  I've always had deja-vu, from when I was a kid, but only after I did salvia (my first "trip") did I understand the gravity and potential significance of it.

Metalmorph, that animation in your avatar pretty much depicts the alteration of my perception during psychedelic-inspired deja-vu.

Of course, the rational scientific explanation for deja-vu, being that an image you are currently witnessing get's mis-directed to long-term memory instead of short-term, makes plenty of sense. 

I'm pretty confident in saying that all psychedelics fuck with your brain so much that perception becomes the least reliable thing to count on.  You can't trust anything that's happening to you to be real, unless, of course, you just believe that reality is entirely constructed by your perception.  If that's the case, then you don't even need a rational explanation for deja-vu.


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Re: Deja Vu [Re: shadowed]
    #11000200 - 09/04/09 05:52 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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shadowed said:
I've never done DMT, but Salvia sure has caused some radical deja-vu in me, both while on it, and after.  I've always had deja-vu, from when I was a kid, but only after I did salvia (my first "trip") did I understand the gravity and potential significance of it.

Metalmorph, that animation in your avatar pretty much depicts the alteration of my perception during psychedelic-inspired deja-vu.

Of course, the rational scientific explanation for deja-vu, being that an image you are currently witnessing get's mis-directed to long-term memory instead of short-term, makes plenty of sense. 

I'm pretty confident in saying that all psychedelics fuck with your brain so much that perception becomes the least reliable thing to count on.  You can't trust anything that's happening to you to be real, unless, of course, you just believe that reality is entirely constructed by your perception.  If that's the case, then you don't even need a rational explanation for deja-vu.



Good words.


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Re: Deja Vu [Re: shadowed]
    #11000276 - 09/04/09 06:01 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

it definetly arises and dissipates like the feeling of dejavu


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Re: Deja Vu [Re: FunkMasterShroom]
    #11003149 - 09/05/09 06:45 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Terence Mckenna used to say that when he was leaving Elfland, the elves would whisper, "Deja vu."  It was their way of saying goodbye.


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Re: Deja Vu [Re: joemolloy]
    #11003160 - 09/05/09 06:50 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

no deja vu with DMT cocaine makes deja vu and brings the time back DMT is stronger than Cocaine so deja vus are understandable and i as i imagine it i can do another action than Cocaine Dejavus acts.
Just theoretically opinion without prove just try DMT is the must !...


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Re: Deja Vu [Re: albien5]
    #11003181 - 09/05/09 07:05 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I get that Deja vu feeling with shrooms. It was amazing on my first trip, I felt like I had come back to a place that I have known very well for all of time, yet I have never been there. Trippy.

I need shrooms!


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Re: Deja Vu [Re: libertyshroom]
    #11003187 - 09/05/09 07:10 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

maybe this is a flash back

I need mushrooms tooooooooooooo  :rofl:  :cryariver:


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Re: Deja Vu [Re: albien5]
    #11003189 - 09/05/09 07:10 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

What's happening albien5?

How are things in.....where the fuck are you?

Aren't you Norweigan?


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Re: Deja Vu [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
    #11003194 - 09/05/09 07:12 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

ay...laska my friend . i will change Aphrodite


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Re: Deja Vu [Re: albien5]
    #11003200 - 09/05/09 07:18 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Oh, Alaska huh?

I don't know why I thought you were from Europe.

Well, tell the Russians I said hello.

Y'all can see them from your house right?  :lol:


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Re: Deja Vu [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
    #11003202 - 09/05/09 07:19 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

The big brother bother me bro  ,ah (this ah is alah nickname)


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Re: Deja Vu [Re: albien5]
    #11003267 - 09/05/09 08:11 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I know the feeling you're talking about.  I've not experienced that with DMT yet.  DMT feels so completely foreign and alien to me I just don't know *what* to think.  The entire time I focus on simply observing, and paying attention to what is happening.

LSD gave me that "been here before" feeling VERY intensely though.


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Re: Deja Vu [Re: Humility]
    #11003636 - 09/05/09 10:23 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

i had deja-vu on salvia


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