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What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010?
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Hmmmmmmm?


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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: OverdoseLiving]
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they will start selling legalized pot :wink:


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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: sonnyboy209]
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sonnyboy209 said:
they will start selling legalized pot :wink:


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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? *DELETED* [Re: thomasbe]
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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Brian the Shroom]
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Straight up "on the corner" type dealers would go out of business. Growers and dealers would probably set up small grow cottage industries.


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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Green_T]
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Yah fuck legalization in CA.

It wide open with the Medical stuff alwready, they should just keep it how it is and quit closing the clubs.


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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: OverdoseLiving]
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Quote:
Yah fuck legalization in CA.

It wide open with the Medical stuff alwready, they should just keep it how it is and quit closing the clubs.


Why is it a good idea to arrest marijuana users who don't have cards?

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: OverdoseLiving]
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:wtf:


You seem to be OK with people using medical marijuana recreationally, what's the difference if they have club cards or not? :what:


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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Poid]
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The "way it is" is neither sustainable nor just. Nobody should have to pay to see a doctor and feign an illness just to enjoy some herb.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Green_T]
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True that! :potleaf:


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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Poid]
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IMO the vast majority would go out of business.

Like any other type of legal business, the MJ industry would turn corporate. The larger companies would mass produce MJ cheaper, and be able to market it better than an "average" person.


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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: badchad]
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If they were true believers they would continue to sell it tax free just to stick it to the man

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: zxcv101]
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My guess is it will be business as usual since I don't think it will happen next year. I like to be proven wrong though.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: zxcv101]
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zxcv101 said:
If they were true believers they would continue to sell it tax free just to stick it to the man


I would pay $10 extra on every bag to not have to deal with a dealer.


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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Alan Rockefeller said:
Quote:
Yah fuck legalization in CA.

It wide open with the Medical stuff alwready, they should just keep it how it is and quit closing the clubs.


Why is it a good idea to arrest marijuana users who don't have cards?


Nobody gets arrested around here for pot unless they are dealing. Most people don't get screwed over too bad for playing the game they chose. I do know a few cases where the sentencing was ridiculous though. Im all down for decriminalization.

I just dont want to see pot go corporate.

id like it to be decriminalized.

That would mean more competition, lower prices for everyone.

Cannabis out of the hands of big companies that taint tobacco.


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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: OverdoseLiving]
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Sorry to not answer your question, but: what would happen to people that are serving time for pot related charges?

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Jufin]
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They'll be released, and there'll be a huge weed-smoking celebration/party. :stoned:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: badchad]
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badchad said:
IMO the vast majority would go out of business.

Like any other type of legal business, the MJ industry would turn corporate. The larger companies would mass produce MJ cheaper, and be able to market it better than an "average" person.


This.  Hopefully they don't start adding unhealthy additives to the marijuana like they do with tobacco.  :sad:


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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: deCypher]
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If they do, I'm just going to grow my own.


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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Poid]
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Jufin said:
Sorry to not answer your question, but: what would happen to people that are serving time for pot related charges?



Poid said:
They'll be released, and there'll be a huge weed-smoking celebration/party. :stoned:


Yeah..they wouldn't be released until they served their time since their crimes would have occurred prior to legalization.  As far as what would happen to the dealers; supply would go up and demand would go down.  It would then become an over-saturated "buyer's market", where dealers would have to undercut their competition to even continue.  All that aside, people like to do business w/their friends, so I'm sure many would continue to deal it would just be less profitable.

Edited by Enlightenedwon (01/08/10 12:36 PM)

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Enlightenedwon]
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Enlightenedwon said:
Jufin said:
Sorry to not answer your question, but: what would happen to people that are serving time for pot related charges?



Poid said:
They'll be released, and there'll be a huge weed-smoking celebration/party. :stoned:


Yeah..they wouldn't be released until they served their time since their crimes would have occurred prior to legalization.

They could be pardoned. :shrug:



Enlightenedwon said:
As far as what would happen to the dealers; supply would go up and demand would go down.  It would then become an over-saturated "buyer's market", where dealers would have to undercut their competition to even continue.  All that aside, people like to do business w/their friends, so I'm sure many would continue to deal it would just be less profitable.

I think a lot of drug dealers would be extremely pissed.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Poid]
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I agree that a pardon would be possible, but I think everyone trying to get pardoned would take a lot of time and effort.  Perhaps people with big sentences would be pardoned, but..pardon one you gotta pardon everyone right?  Idk, I guess we'll have to wait & see.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Enlightenedwon]
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Enlightenedwon said:
I agree that a pardon would be possible, but I think everyone trying to get pardoned would take a lot of time and effort.

Um, what if the governor/president decides to pardon all prisoners who were convicted of marijuana-related crimes; this way, the prisoners don't have to do shit but sit back and wait to be released.



Enlightenedwon said:
Perhaps people with big sentences would be pardoned, but..pardon one you gotta pardon everyone right?

Well, yeah. :shrug:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Poid]
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I don't think it will be federally legalized anytime soon though, I think we really fucked ourselves by making it a medicine.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Enlightenedwon]
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How did us making it a medicine fuck it up? If anything, I see that as a good sign...


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
How did us making it a medicine fuck it up? If anything, I see that as a good sign...


It may have made strides towards social acceptance, however we're talking about legalization.  Even if it were approved by the FDA, it would take forever for it to go OTC.  I know that there are ways to obtain it medically (even if you have no definable need), but by saying "legalization", and asking about street dealers, I take it you meant freely available over the counter.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Enlightenedwon]
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Enlightenedwon said:
Poid said:
How did us making it a medicine fuck it up? If anything, I see that as a good sign...


It may have made strides towards social acceptance, however we're talking about legalization.

I think it is a stride towards both.



Enlightenedwon said:
Even if it were approved by the FDA, it would take forever for it to go OTC.

How do you know this for sure?



Enlightenedwon said:
I know that there are ways to obtain it medically (even if you have no definable need), but by saying "legalization", and asking about street dealers, I take it you meant freely available over the counter.

I mean completely legal, no laws or sanctions on it whatsoever. :shrug:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Poid]
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The FDA regulates OTC drugs, just as it regulates prescription drugs.  The FDA decides whether to allow a drug to make the switch from prescription to OTC.  To approve a drug as an Over-the-Counter drug, the FDA must find that:

*Its benefits outweigh its risks: In other words, the improvements to your health from taking the drug are more important than any negative side effects.

*Its potential for misuse and abuse is low: That is, the drug should not be habit forming and shouldn’t cause a cheap “high” that would encourage people to overuse it.

*The consumer can use it for self-diagnosed conditions: The drug isn’t for something that needs testing or a doctor’s diagnosis, like high cholesterol. Instead, the drug treats a symptom that’s obvious to the average consumer, like a headache or allergy.

*The drug can be adequately labeled: The warnings and instructions for use are clear and easy to understand without any training.
The drug does not need a doctor’s supervision: The drug is easy to use. For example, the drug doesn’t need a doctor to monitor and change the dosage.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Enlightenedwon]
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Enlightenedwon said:
To approve a drug as an Over-the-Counter drug, the FDA must find that:

*Its benefits outweigh its risks: In other words, the improvements to your health from taking the drug are more important than any negative side effects.

*Its potential for misuse and abuse is low: That is, the drug should not be habit forming and shouldn’t cause a cheap “high” that would encourage people to overuse it.

*The consumer can use it for self-diagnosed conditions: The drug isn’t for something that needs testing or a doctor’s diagnosis, like high cholesterol. Instead, the drug treats a symptom that’s obvious to the average consumer, like a headache or allergy.

*The drug can be adequately labeled: The warnings and instructions for use are clear and easy to understand without any training.
The drug does not need a doctor’s supervision: The drug is easy to use. For example, the drug doesn’t need a doctor to monitor and change the dosage.

I think it's more important for the cannabis plant to become completely legal than it is for cannabis buds to be accepted as an OTC medication. :shrug:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Poid]
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But since it is already a medication it will have to go through that process to be what you were discussing as legal.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Enlightenedwon]
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It doesn't have to.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Poid]
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There are some counties/states where the penalties are heftier than others, however having a small amount is practically legal anywhere now (different municipalities of course have their own limits).  I think here in NY <2 o's is a misdemeanor.  Also, many people view places that have it available as tourist destinations, it is too bad the fed overrules the state since it could be an economic recovery vehicle.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Enlightenedwon]
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:thumbup:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: OverdoseLiving]
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OverdoseLiving said:
Hmmmmmmm?


Now that getting a MedJ card is pretty much as easy as catching a cold here in Colorado,
my dealer somehow got a license to sell his goods to all the dispensaries popping up all over the
Denver Metro area.

its funny, the illegal dealers are doing anything to keep their customers from going legit.
He even sent me a Christmas card and thanked me for my repeat business 

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: MrBump]
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Most would go out of business. Most drug dealers wouldn't know how to run a legal business.

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: OverdoseLiving]
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People wouldn't talk to shady dealers anymore.
Which, around where I am, is all the jerks who act like used car dealers and don't respect the damn plant. God, I hate talking to those guys.

And MJ would probably NOT go the way of tobacco. Most MJ smokers would probably grow their own stuff if it started to. Tobacco is a pain to grow... MJ... not so much.
And, plus, look at alcohol. There's a ton of brands out there for just about every price range, taste and effect. Some people have no problem drinking Miller or Budweiser when they're low on cash (see: regs)... but most people would rather drink something better. A lot of people seem to care about their alcohol more than their cigs simply because people take their intoxicants very personally. But most people just smoke cigs because they can't stop.
Now imagine if you had the ability to make your own beer so long as where you lived had a decent stretch of spring, summer and fall?
:awehigh:  :awehigh:  :awehigh:  :awehigh:  :awehigh:
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.


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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: Giveadont]
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They'd have to get real jobs

Or start selling drugs that are still illegal

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: OverdoseLiving]
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You wouldn't be able to grow hydroponically grown tomatoes anymore :smile:

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Re: What do you think will happen to the illegal pot dealers if pot was legalized in the US in 2010? [Re: OverdoseLiving]
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Looks left at the statute in Illinois…

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