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Offlinechronosync
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Re: SWIM wants Azurescens - whatever the cost [Re: 13shrooms]
    #10992978 - 09/03/09 02:52 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

yeah. its possible to get good results for ($0.00) free, but you will probably need some supplies. buying a kit is idiotic.

dont forget to SWIM

you know, if you fall in some water. that is. water.

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Re: SWIM wants Azurescens - whatever the cost [Re: 13shrooms]
    #10993032 - 09/03/09 03:03 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i second that


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Re: SWIM wants Azurescens - whatever the cost [Re: feelfunny]
    #10993066 - 09/03/09 03:11 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

so are we going swimming or what?....

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Re: SWIM wants Azurescens - whatever the cost [Re: inkmaggot]
    #10993171 - 09/03/09 03:32 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Lets go to da beach mon(in a jamaican voice)!


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Re: SWIM wants Azurescens - whatever the cost [Re: nastos]
    #10993922 - 09/03/09 05:58 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Did you use words like quotidian????

Why should I use the reply feature to talk to the OP?


Fuck off, son.

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Re: SWIM wants Azurescens - whatever the cost [Re: Doc_T]
    #10994248 - 09/03/09 06:51 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks Doc_T, those videos are very helpful.

SWIM wonders why there is so much hostility. He was only looking for some advice :wink:







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Re: SWIM wants Azurescens - whatever the cost [Re: psychoanomaly]
    #10994582 - 09/03/09 07:37 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

pan cam's

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Re: SWIM wants Azurescens - whatever the cost [Re: psychoanomaly]
    #10994788 - 09/03/09 08:09 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

psychoanomaly said:
SWIM has decided against growing Azurescens. It seems that the cultivation of woodloving shrooms would be damn near impossible where he lives.

What would be the easiest (and most potent) strain to cultivate indoors? SWIM wants high yield.





dude seriously, nobody buy's this swim shit, even less authorities, if your scared of authorities stop posting and get to reading, cause that swim shit, or my cat shit, or afoaf shit is ridiculous.  i'm sorry but common, be realistic.

go with indoor cubes, either b+ or GT or EQ.  and please drop that swim shit man, do yourself a favour, aswell as everyone else with their cats, dogs, moms and turtles.  either read or dont talk about your pets.

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Re: SWIM wants Azurescens - whatever the cost [Re: monkeybus]
    #10995526 - 09/03/09 09:50 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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monkeybus said:
Did you use words like quotidian????

Why should I use the reply feature to talk to the OP?


Fuck off, son.




LOL  ive noticed people who speak the english language who wants to -seem- smart tend to use french words, quotidian means daily, basic french, but use any words from another language like in swiss german, ishlibidish (fuck the spelling huh, i remember by sound, i spit most of the time i say it anyway) to say i love you, and youll either sound like a fucking idiot or a somewhat educated person.  anyway, most of the time look up those weird words in google french english dict... and you'll find it's meaning.  when we who speak fluid french use an english term, it isn't to sound smart, but to swear a little more vulgarily.  :rolleyes:

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Re: SWIM wants Azurescens - whatever the cost [Re: shangrila]
    #10996102 - 09/03/09 11:38 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

What is the French for magic mushroom?

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Re: SWIM wants Azurescens - whatever the cost [Re: 13shrooms]
    #10996323 - 09/04/09 12:17 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Kits are not worth it.  Buy a pressure cooker.  Best investment you could make.  You can get all the other materials cheaply and do it yourself.

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Re: SWIM wants Azurescens - whatever the cost [Re: shangrila]
    #10999975 - 09/04/09 05:05 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

shangrila said:
Quote:

psychoanomaly said:
SWIM has decided against growing Azurescens. It seems that the cultivation of woodloving shrooms would be damn near impossible where he lives.

What would be the easiest (and most potent) strain to cultivate indoors? SWIM wants high yield.





dude seriously, nobody buy's this swim shit, even less authorities, if your scared of authorities stop posting and get to reading, cause that swim shit, or my cat shit, or afoaf shit is ridiculous.  i'm sorry but common, be realistic.

go with indoor cubes, either b+ or GT or EQ.  and please drop that swim shit man, do yourself a favour, aswell as everyone else with their cats, dogs, moms and turtles.  either read or dont talk about your pets.




As I said man, I always thought that it was a stupid concept. The only reason I've been using it is because a moderator on the Lycaeum forum threw a hissy fit when I wrote a trip report in first person. He threatened to ban me. I naturally assumed that the same rule applied to this forum. Guess not.

Anyways, I watched those tek video's twice and understand the process pretty well. Buying a kit is definitely pointless.

However, there were a couple questions that were left unanswered. Perhaps you guys can help me sort them out.

First of all, the guys in the video did not seem to take many sterility precautions after birthing the cakes. From what I could differ, the only precaution they took after birthing was the sterilization of the dry vermiculite in the oven before coating the cakes. Aside from that, they laid the cakes in the terrarium with their bare hands, which I would think could spread bacteria even if they properly cleaned themselves (not to mention they weren't waring masks). One would also think that contamination would be a major concern during the fruiting process (with all that humidity), though they didn't mention anything about it, so I'm assuming that after inoculation and colonization of the substrate, the risk of contamination is minimal. If I'm wrong, please let me know what precautions I should take during the fruiting process.

On a lesser note, I recall that you need a 5000 kelvin light on a 12/12 cycle, though the angle and distance of the light to the terrarium wasn't mentioned. How close, and from what angle, should I have the light relative to the terrarium?

They also failed to mention how much spore solution should be injected in each inoculation hole. If I'm planning on using four holes per jar, how much solution should I inject per hole?

It seems to me that contamination is the leading cause of failure amongst mushroom cultivators. I want to be sure I know how to identify a contaminated cake. The dudes on the video said that anything aside from white means contamination. Is there anything else I should look out for? Also, just how harmful can these contaminants be?

Thanks.

Edit: I was told by an elder tripper that if you cut the shrooms off the cakes leaving the base of the stems, more shrooms will grow off the same cake. Is this true? Can you produce multiple harvests from a single batch of cakes?

I see a lot of pics showing shrooms growing in a tub full of what looks like shit. Sometimes I wonder why I couldn't just throw some fertilizer in a tub, water it and inject some spore solution. It seems like this would be a valid (and very easy) method if you lived in a humid climate (which I do not :sad:). Are there any simpler cultivation methods I should know about, or is the BRF tek the way to go?


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Edited by psychoanomaly (09/04/09 05:24 PM)

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Re: SWIM wants Azurescens - whatever the cost [Re: psychoanomaly]
    #11000120 - 09/04/09 05:38 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

your cakes are "wrapped" in myc and it forms a barrier around the substrate so contams can not get a foothold to grow.  it can happen but not likely as long as its colonized 100%.

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I recall that you need a 5000 kelvin light on a 12/12 cycle, though the angle and distance of the light to the terrarium wasn't mentioned. How close, and from what angle, should I have the light relative to the terrarium?





6500K is recommended put it above your FC, real close or a couple feet up, doesnt make a huge diff.


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[They also failed to mention how much spore solution should be injected in each inoculation hole. If I'm planning on using four holes per jar, how much solution should I inject per hole?/quote]

they mention it, but its 1/4cc per hole for a total of 1cc per 1/2 pint jar.


Quote:

I was told by an elder tripper that if you cut the shrooms off the cakes leaving the base of the stems, more shrooms will grow off the same cake. Is this true? Can you produce multiple harvests from a single batch of cakes?





no, if you pick them completely new pins will develop into more shrooms, the other way will harbor contams.


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I see a lot of pics showing shrooms growing in a tub full of what looks like shit. Sometimes I wonder why I couldn't just throw some fertilizer in a tub, water it and inject some spore solution. It seems like this would be a valid (and very easy) method if you lived in a humid climate (which I do not ). Are there any simpler cultivation methods I should know about, or is the BRF tek the way to go?




I recommend getting your sterile tek down using the PF-tek then moving on to bulk grows.  look in my sig for what looks like shit but is a bulk substrate mix consisting of usually coir/manure/verm/straw/spent coffee grounds/gypsum in various combos and ratios.

good luck,

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Re: SWIM wants Azurescens - whatever the cost [Re: psychoanomaly]
    #11000137 - 09/04/09 05:42 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

psychoanomaly said:
SWIM is determined to start growing mushies, and doesn't want to raise anything but Azurescens. SWIM knows this variety is difficult to cultivate, but is confident in his skills, despite his lack of previous experience. He wants to know if the good people of the Shroomery could give him some advice as to how he should go about doing this. Links to techniques and spore providers would be appreciated. SWIM realizes that sharing information like this may not be allowed, so anyone who would like to help can obtain SWIM's email addresses via PM.

Do Azurescens require a different grow technique then more quotidian strains? If indoor cultivation of Azurescens is completely unreasonable, then what would be the next best strain (potency wise) to cultivate?

SWIM says thanks.




to the OP:
Get your post count up in a diff forum and you get access to the marketplace where in the exotic spore print thread  azures are being givin away right now.:stoned:  better start posting b4 someone else gets them.  :grin:

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Re: SWIM wants Azurescens - whatever the cost [Re: 13shrooms]
    #11002670 - 09/05/09 02:08 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

ive not had a problem with contamination by handling cakes with bare hands after %100 colonization. its not a consideration for me, within reason.
mycelium is very durable once established. Psilocybe Cubensis is an organism, and has its own right to life, and therefore, its own immune system and protection, just like you.

it can resist bacteria and mold, when mature.

still, caution is advised, to prevent any potential problems.

http://www.shroomery.org/9919/Magic-Mushroom-Grow-Bible

download and read that document, print it out if you can, spend an afternoon with it, and take it with a few grains of salt, but that book is worth its weight in gold.

keep in mind it was written in the 70's

all the basics are there. info on SHROOMERY, and such, is just updating the details, basically.

azurescens are best cultivated outdoors, indoor projects are/is much harder to achieve good results.

try some cubes.

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