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darkestmage
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105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound?
#10990102 - 09/02/09 11:52 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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1.5 bricks coir 1.5 quarts coffee grounds 1.5 quarts verm. all in a bucket. about 5 quarts boiling water added to bucket and it's sealed with aluminum foil with a small hole poked until it cools completely (6 hours or so.)
Spawn to this huge tub which is completely clear. 3 holes on each length 2 on each end filled tightly with polyfil.
question: do i want a slow steady stream of water from my substrate or just a few drops when squeezed like i would a gas pump lever?
i'll spawn into the 110 qt 5 full quarts of penis envy. i thought this should be enough spawn. i'm using duct tape on the outside of the tub to protect from side pins, too.
no casing layer.
thanks guys. i'm just paranoid of using such a big tub..all my eggs in 1 basket. we will use extra sterilization procedures but is the pasterization tek good enough?
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HaRo On KoRn
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Re: 105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound? [Re: darkestmage]
#10990246 - 09/03/09 12:17 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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im not sure with coir
with hpoo u want it not to drip with no pressure and a small stream when squeezed
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Humbled
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Re: 105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound? [Re: darkestmage]
#10990249 - 09/03/09 12:17 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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You do NOT want to sterilize for bulk spawns, do a good searching about "Field Capacity".
You dont want any kind of 'flow' coming from your bulk substrate. Just a few drops when squeezed and a tiny rivulet when squeezed hard.
The big tub wont be a problem as long as you have at least a few inches of substrate. Too wet will invite contams.
Use the search bar brother.
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darkestmage
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Re: 105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound? [Re: Humbled]
#10990264 - 09/03/09 12:20 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i've been searching for about a year now and compiled that tek.
if i said something about sterilizing bulk substrates my bad i don't remember typing something stupid like that. i pasteurize bulk subs and was asking about that specifically.
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HaRo On KoRn
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Re: 105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound? [Re: Humbled]
#10990288 - 09/03/09 12:24 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psilocelium said: You do NOT want to sterilize for bulk spawns, do a good searching about "Field Capacity".
You dont want any kind of 'flow' coming from your bulk substrate. Just a few drops when squeezed and a tiny rivulet when squeezed hard.
The big tub wont be a problem as long as you have at least a few inches of substrate. Too wet will invite contams.
Use the search bar brother.
dude dont be such a ass he rather be safe then sorry while teks are one mans opinion asking in here gets you 10 opinions from semi exprienced to trusted cultavitors
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Shroominit
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Re: 105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound? [Re: Humbled]
#10990297 - 09/03/09 12:26 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Really don't think you'll have enough with that quantity.
Consider: Brick of coir = 8qt So you have 12qt coir +1.5 coffee + 1.5 verm (15 total) And 5 quarts of spawn. 20qt in cubic inches is 1155in3(57.75in3 per qt) If you have a standard size 105qt (est 32" by 19") and want a 3-4" substrate you'll need between 1800 and 2400in3... so about 50% more spawn/substrate material. Right now you'll get ~1.8" of depth from that much material.
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Re: 105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound? [Re: HaRo On KoRn]
#10990486 - 09/03/09 01:12 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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HaRo On KoRn said:
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Psilocelium said: You do NOT want to sterilize for bulk spawns, do a good searching about "Field Capacity".
You dont want any kind of 'flow' coming from your bulk substrate. Just a few drops when squeezed and a tiny rivulet when squeezed hard.
The big tub wont be a problem as long as you have at least a few inches of substrate. Too wet will invite contams.
Use the search bar brother.
dude dont be such a ass he rather be safe then sorry while teks are one mans opinion asking in here gets you 10 opinions from semi exprienced to trusted cultavitors
Well brotha, not trying to come off as an "ASS". Sounds like you need a bit of experience yourself. I have about 5 years of experience so.... yeah I think that qualifies me as semi- experienced.
The trusted cultivators I do not question, only learn from.
Teks may be one man's opinion if you think one guy thought all that up. I guarantee you that teks are a compilation of ideas from people all trying to improve on the improvised.
This is MY opinion and you are entitled to yours.
So, next time you wanna throw some weight around, realize, you are a lightweight.
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HaRo On KoRn
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Re: 105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound? [Re: Humbled]
#10990523 - 09/03/09 01:30 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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hey ill say sorry bro maybe its the way i read your post when i had to take a leak no offense to you
and on a lighter note im 6'4" 250lbs lol
i am a super lightweight in shrooms tho
For real sorry.
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Re: 105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound? [Re: HaRo On KoRn]
#10990552 - 09/03/09 01:42 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's all good man. No grudges held here. Just saying what's on my mind. And my mind is pretty druggydrunked up right now.
I am 6' 4" as well, but a lightweight at about 175 lbs. haha.
Dude nobody's comments really bother me, but, realize there is always someone on this board or in a book that is much more experienced.
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mister
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Re: 105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound? [Re: Humbled]
#10990971 - 09/03/09 05:35 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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You are gonna need 2 bricks of coir for that big of a tub. I have done them. You will need....
1. 2 bricks of coir 2. 1 5 gallon bucket with a lid 3. 2 qts verm 4. 2 qts coffee (optional) 5. 1/2 cup gypsum 6. 81/2 to 9 qts water 7. Pot large enough to boil the water.
You add the gypsum, coffee, and the verm to the water before you start boiling, that way they are heated up with the water. Clean out your bucket with alcohol prior to placing dry coir bricks in it. Make a small hole in the lid for polyfil filter. Once water is boiling, add to the coir and place the lid on tight and wait till cool, several hours.
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darkestmage
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Re: 105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound? [Re: mister]
#10991742 - 09/03/09 10:22 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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THANK YOU MISTER AND SHROOMINIT!!!! Very much. Exactly what i'm looking for.
Psilocelium: every post in this thread from you is complete garbage I don't need your bad advice thanks, though BRO.
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Shroominit
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Re: 105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound? [Re: darkestmage]
#10991813 - 09/03/09 10:36 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd use a trashbag instead of duct tape as well. If it's a clear tub, duct tape will still allow for side pins.
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Williamsii
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Re: 105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound? [Re: darkestmage]
#10991888 - 09/03/09 10:52 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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darkestmage said:Psilocelium: every post in this thread from you is complete garbage I don't need your bad advice thanks, though BRO.
All the info in Psilocelium's post is correct. Not bad advice at all. I mean this post: Quote:
You do NOT want to sterilize for bulk spawns, do a good searching about "Field Capacity".
You dont want any kind of 'flow' coming from your bulk substrate. Just a few drops when squeezed and a tiny rivulet when squeezed hard.
The big tub wont be a problem as long as you have at least a few inches of substrate. Too wet will invite contams.
Use the search bar brother.
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Shroominit
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Re: 105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound? [Re: Williamsii]
#10991895 - 09/03/09 10:54 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I didn't want to get involved, but yeah his info is good, and it didn't sound like a mean post to me at all.
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HaRo On KoRn
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Re: 105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound? [Re: Shroominit]
#10996544 - 09/04/09 01:07 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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so have you started yet what have u been doin with it
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Re: 105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound? [Re: Shroominit]
#10996645 - 09/04/09 01:26 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroominit said: Really don't think you'll have enough with that quantity.
Consider: Brick of coir = 8qt So you have 12qt coir +1.5 coffee + 1.5 verm (15 total) And 5 quarts of spawn. 20qt in cubic inches is 1155in3(57.75in3 per qt) If you have a standard size 105qt (est 32" by 19") and want a 3-4" substrate you'll need between 1800 and 2400in3... so about 50% more spawn/substrate material. Right now you'll get ~1.8" of depth from that much material.
I agree with mister and shroominit that more sub will be needed for this grow to be as successful as possible. I'd go with 8qts of spawn myself but I don't use such large tubs. Going on the assumption that you want a 1:4 / 1:5 ratio and not a 1:3 as you originally proposed. 
I really enjoy the mathematical breakdown though shroominit. I've always made more sub then needed and just dumped the rest doing most of my calculations by eye and based on the idea that 1 brick equaled 12qts expanded. Personally just saved $30-$50 a year and didn't have to switch my car insurance.
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HaRo On KoRn
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i do think tho why not 2 50qts?
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darkestmage
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Re: 105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound? [Re: HaRo On KoRn]
#10999031 - 09/04/09 01:40 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Spawning on saturday. the 5th jar just finished colonizing a couple days ago. we have another jar that is colonizing extremely fast so we might wait until early this coming week if that jar finishes by saturday..
i'm going to do the 2 coir 2 qt verm 2 qt coffee with the 5 gallon bucket. i've pasteurized like that before and it works well.
the 105 qt will have 4 holes on each length side (2 about 5 inches high, the other 2 at the top) and 2 holes on the end sides. filled tight with polyfil. wrap in a blanket and not crack it for 5 days. throw a light on 14/10 and a fan on low pointing at an adjacent wall...or should i oscillate the fan so it hits the tub?
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darkestmage
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Re: 105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound? [Re: darkestmage]
#10999310 - 09/04/09 02:34 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i found gypsum at ace hardware so ill be adding 1'2 cup of that
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Re: 105 qt tub. Hows my tek sound? [Re: darkestmage]
#10999358 - 09/04/09 02:51 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those big tubs have 50% more surface area than my 66 qt sterilite. So I would say 1.5 bricks is enough. I would up my spawn to 8 qts. I use 5-6 per brick of coir. 5 would be enough, but with 8 it will colonize so fast contams wouldnt even have a chance.
 I'm about to do the same thing and I'm going to use the same ratio as you are. Maybe an extra quart of water tho. Definitely going to use more spawn. As you can see way more holes. I'm anal about FAE tho. Cant have too much.
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