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weekendrush
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First time brf casing advice
#10986066 - 09/02/09 11:49 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am attempting casing brf cakes for the first time. I'm a bit confused whether I was supposed to mix the broken up cake substrate with the 50/50 verm coir casing layer ?
I put a layer of damp verm in the bottom of a foil tray, covered with broken up substrate & put the 50/50 casing on top. This was the way the tek described but after doing a few searches I'm getting conflicting information. Not sure weather I should have mixed the substrate & casing together ?
Also does this look like it's ready for fruiting or should I wait until it's colonized all over ??
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Re: First time brf casing advice [Re: weekendrush]
#10986086 - 09/02/09 11:53 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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dont mix your casing layer.
That is there for basicaly I belive a contam barrior or somthing like that.
Its not meant to be a layer that colonizes
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Re: First time brf casing advice [Re: elemental420]
#10986104 - 09/02/09 11:56 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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The casing layer is meant to create a microclimate for your substrate. The only time you'd really want a "casing layer" is if you were birthing cakes, or crumbling cakes or fruiting grain. Then it's not a bad idea to mix in some verm and case with verm. For things like bulk trays or monotubs, casing layers are just one step above a waste of time, in my opinion.
You can fruit that now if you want to. I think you could patch and fruit as well. I'd just go ahead and fruit it.
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Re: First time brf casing advice [Re: weekendrush]
#10986191 - 09/02/09 12:10 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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everyone gets confused about this. a casing layer is not supposed to be nutritious..but people still case with 50/50 coir and verm which is actually more of a bulk substrate rather than a casing. so it just makes everything confusing. but to the op..go ahead and let that colonize some more..(since there is coir in it). if that was actually a casing then i would say go ahead and fruit it now.
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Re: First time brf casing advice [Re: Project]
#10986192 - 09/02/09 12:10 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for the replies. So I did it right then I think ? I didn't mix the substrate with the casing layer.
I did patch a couple of days ago but this is how it's turned out. Do you think I have left this for to long in the incubator then ? Or is it about right to fruit ??
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Re: First time brf casing advice [Re: weekendrush]
#10986206 - 09/02/09 12:12 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh, I thought that was just a casing layer of straight vermiculite. I agree, let the mycelium pop through more before you fruit.
In the future, I recommend moving on to bulk grows without casing layers.
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Re: First time brf casing advice [Re: Project]
#10986239 - 09/02/09 12:17 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks again for the replies.
I will be moving onto Rye after this tek is completed as everyone seems to prefer it too brf. Just waiting for my rye to turn up now
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Re: First time brf casing advice [Re: Project]
#10986311 - 09/02/09 12:26 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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You'll realize that grains colonize a lot faster than BRF. Also remember than with your BRF cakes, about 50% of the total substrate is composed of vermiculite, which will not be colonized by your mycelium. So the mycelium is only colonizing about 50% of the total substrate! With grains, you're getting close to 100% colonization. So theoretically it would take two pints of BRF spawn to equal the spawning potential of one pint of grains.
I'll go ahead and recommend spawning horse manure if you can find it. If there is a horse pasture near where you live, all you have to do is hop the fence and grab some. It literally takes less than 5 minutes and I highly doubt you'd get in trouble. If you're unlucky enough to have the owner see you trespassing, just tell him you were looking for some horse shit to start a compost pile. Most people won't give a shit about you taking their shit, unless they themselves use that shit. Take the shit, pasteurize it, spawn to it, wait, fruit, wait, harvest. It's sooo easy! If you haven't checked out Roadkill's poo tek, check it out! It's in my signature...
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Re: First time brf casing advice [Re: Project]
#10992455 - 09/03/09 01:04 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for the advice Project. I would like to try horse shit but don't think the missus would appreciate me boiling up shit in her kitchen. I can imagine it must give off a stench as well, she'd probably divorce me lol.
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