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i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early
    #10981054 - 09/01/09 05:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

obviously i'm a total noob and instead of putting a layer of dry verm at the top of the jars, i put a layer of wet baked verm.....also, i'm pretty sure i added too much water to the substrate mix. my jars have been inoculated now for 2 weeks and i have ok mycelium growth, but its starting to slow down and create the yellow mycelium piss. i havent been able to find a post of someone with the same problem. does anyone know anything helpful???




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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: HeadShroom]
    #10981165 - 09/01/09 05:18 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i did cakes two months ago and had two batches the second one was perfect but the first i still have 3 jars that have the piss shit and are not nearly 100 % i think ima brake them up and use it as spawn to grow bulk.

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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: pandelic]
    #10981170 - 09/01/09 05:19 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

go thru the link on my sig for some help, and notes from RR.


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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: TacoHerder]
    #10981192 - 09/01/09 05:23 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Pics might help.


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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: pandelic]
    #10981219 - 09/01/09 05:27 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i have 3 strains,B+, Z, and GT that are now fucked, but im just gonna let em go and see what happens i think. its hard for me to let em go cause it was a BITCH getting them into california. the good thing is that the B+ jars are 10 days older than the other two strains so i have a little bit of a better idea of what to expect.




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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: HeadShroom]
    #10981238 - 09/01/09 05:29 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i'll take some pics in a sec and try to post em.

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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: HeadShroom]
    #10981290 - 09/01/09 05:39 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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HeadShroom said:
obviously i'm a total noob and instead of putting a layer of dry verm at the top of the jars, i put a layer of wet baked verm.....also, i'm pretty sure i added too much water to the substrate mix. my jars have been inoculated now for 2 weeks and i have ok mycelium growth, but its starting to slow down and create the yellow mycelium piss. i havent been able to find a post of someone with the same problem. does anyone know anything helpful???




Too much water can lead to cobweb mold it's happened to me. But cobweb spreads quickly and you can easily spot it from myc.

The dry layer of verm is a contam barrier that would have probably helped you, making it wet defeats this purpose, but you might not be fucked.

What did you inoculate them with? Was it an MS syringe? Noobies often think they fucked up when jars take forever. If you still use MS syringes you have to wait awhile, longer than what most people on here would wait.

The piss doesnt mean you fucked up. If you have mold, you fucked up. Post pics. If you can't tell what it is we'll need pics.

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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: oxalic32]
    #10981481 - 09/01/09 06:04 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

theres a few that i spotted the mold but i couldnt get a clear pic. heres the jars with just the myc piss, i think they'll be ok and your right about the MS syringes, i'm just paranoid.





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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: HeadShroom]
    #10981504 - 09/01/09 06:08 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Mycelium doesn't urinate and never has.  That's an obsolete term coined by early growers who didn't have a fucking clue about mycology. 

You've probably got some bacterial contamination caused by not having a filter on your jars.  Wet verm is the same as no filter at all.  Next time, be sure to follow the tek to the letter.
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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #10981528 - 09/01/09 06:13 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

haha i was just reading an agument u had over this just the other day. and i believe u lost. just cause we call it piss doesnt mean its urine, but its a byproduct.

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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: HeadShroom]
    #10981562 - 09/01/09 06:18 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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haha i was just reading an agument u had over this just the other day. and i believe u lost. just cause we call it piss doesn't mean its urine, but its a byproduct.




:facepalm:

No its a defense mechanism the mycl produces to try to defend itself from any mold or Bactria.  No where near the same thing...


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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: TacoHerder]
    #10981565 - 09/01/09 06:19 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Go read all about metabolites in my journal. That info is nice to know.


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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: TacoHerder]
    #10981667 - 09/01/09 06:35 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

This is myc piss:


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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: TacoHerder]
    #10981694 - 09/01/09 06:40 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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haha i was just reading an agument u had over this just the other day. and i believe u lost.




I think its funny when people try to argue with RR.  No offense buddy, but compared to RR, YOU DONT KNOW SHIT!  Just listen to anything he has to say!

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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: anonjon]
    #10981702 - 09/01/09 06:41 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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This is myc piss:






You should make that your avatar.  great pic  :lmafo:


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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: TacoHerder]
    #10982044 - 09/01/09 07:31 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

yea but RR is anal with not calling it piss
no offense

He know what hes talking about and wet verm on top is like no verm or even possibly worse

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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: HaRo On KoRn]
    #10982431 - 09/01/09 08:30 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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yea but RR is anal with not calling it piss







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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: anonjon]
    #10982568 - 09/01/09 08:46 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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HaRo On KoRn said:
yea but RR is anal with not calling it piss









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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: HaRo On KoRn]
    #10983428 - 09/01/09 11:08 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the pic.  I just stole it to use when I'm pissed about piss.


Almost all of the major antibiotics are made from the exuded liquid from mycelium.  I think it was in TMC that these were referred to as a 'waste material' which is not the best term to use.  I haven't heard Paul use that definition in many years though.

I'm just as anal about not using the word 'casing' to refer to a mushroom growing project, or to call a bulk substrate 'spawn' or any other incorrect terms.  It's hard enough to learn a new hobby without reading the wrong terms over and over, which makes them seem correct.  One then has to unlearn the bad info, which is much harder than learning the correct nomenclature from day one.
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Re: i think my jars are fucked. mycelium piss early [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #10983674 - 09/02/09 12:02 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Thanks for the pic.  I just stole it to use when I'm pissed about piss



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