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 BoB-RNK
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 My indoor cacti garden 
#10978778 - 09/01/09 11:11 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hi,
I'm BoB, i'm from Paris France. This is my first post on this message board but i've been reeding all the different topics for a wile.
I've been growing peyotle et san pedro from seedlings since 2007.
Here are some pics to show you a part of my indoor cacti garden :
Lophophoras fricii
Some Lophophora williamsii
This one, had some flowers 2 months ago and he's flowering again !
Other Lopho recently grafted. The one on the right is a single graft which splited in two.
My two first grafts, done one and a half year ago.
Edited by BoB-RNK (09/01/09 11:56 AM)
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drift
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 Re: My indoor cacti garden [Re: BoB-RNK]
#10978797 - 09/01/09 11:14 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Those look awesome, what kind of lighting do you use?
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Cactusdan
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Re: My indoor cacti garden [Re: drift]
#10978843 - 09/01/09 11:23 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Looking very good Bob!
Welcome to the boards, and look for ward to hearing more from you!
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BoB-RNK
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Re: My indoor cacti garden [Re: Cactusdan]
#10979078 - 09/01/09 12:01 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm using this kind of lamp (2x55W) :
and two DEL light, 20W each. like this one :
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Cactusdan
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Re: My indoor cacti garden [Re: BoB-RNK]
#10979290 - 09/01/09 12:31 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Those Piloso stocks look a little dehydrated IMO.
May want to up the water to them.
How much did the 2x55 set you back?
I'm in the market for grow lights, and need to see what's best and cheapest on my measly college student salary 
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BoB-RNK
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Re: My indoor cacti garden [Re: Cactusdan]
#10979436 - 09/01/09 12:53 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Pilos have always been looking dried. The Lophophoras on top are drinking all the water, they are full like watermelon. More water would crack them.
For the light, the DEL's are very expensive (more than 150€) but very efficient. The 2x55W are the best I've found so far. No too expensive(70€), very efficient and wide (what i like because you can put many little plants under and they will all be receiving the same amount of light.
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Cactusdan
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Re: My indoor cacti garden [Re: BoB-RNK]
#10979485 - 09/01/09 01:00 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Awesome!
Thanks for the info mate.
I agree those Lophs do look quite happy, are you gonna bumb them up to bigger stock in the future?
It might do them well 
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HaRo On KoRn
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Re: My indoor cacti garden [Re: Cactusdan]
#10979774 - 09/01/09 01:44 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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why do u put the peyote on the pedro
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Cactusdan
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You can either use trichocereus, stenocereus, or harrisia as permanent stock for them.
They tend to be thick enough to support the weight of old lophophora and tend to have good longevity.
These look like they're on Pilosocereus, which works, but tends to not works as well as some of the other permanent stocks so I hear.
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Re: My indoor cacti garden [Re: Cactusdan]
#10979846 - 09/01/09 01:58 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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but why do u put peyote on stocks?
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Cactusdan
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Oh sorry
They're faster growing, when you connect the vascular tissue of the two the growth rate of the stock transfers to the scion (peyote)
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HaRo On KoRn
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Re: My indoor cacti garden [Re: Cactusdan]
#10979906 - 09/01/09 02:06 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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so if u took a quarter sized peyote and put it on a (grapehed?) it on to a stock it would grow say 3x faster?
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Cactusdan
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Grafted*
And I don't know about 3x faster, but it would definitely speed up.
If you're considering doing this, make sure you do your research and have multiple stocks and scions to work with.
It is a skill that usually can take a few tries to get the hang of.
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BoB-RNK
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Re: My indoor cacti garden [Re: Cactusdan]
#10980077 - 09/01/09 02:34 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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As you ca see they are grafted on pilocereus azureus. All the peyote (grafted or not) are the same age (2 years old). Some have been grafted very young so they are much larger than others and some have been grafted just a few months ago.
All the grafted peyote are growing much faster !!!!
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HaRo On KoRn
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Re: My indoor cacti garden [Re: BoB-RNK]
#10980104 - 09/01/09 02:38 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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the one that are grafted are way bigger there really all the same age
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Re: My indoor cacti garden [Re: Cactusdan]
#10980112 - 09/01/09 02:39 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Cactusdan said:
Grafted*
And I don't know about 3x faster, but it would definitely speed up.
If you're considering doing this, make sure you do your research and have multiple stocks and scions to work with.
It is a skill that usually can take a few tries to get the hang of.
yes, my first 2-3 attempts failed  education would have helped, but u learn from experience 
my second was lost cause the pedro stock was too big and cut too short so the core was too woody for grafting, at the time i didnt know about that factor  or maybe the vascular rings didnt overlap, or both
Edited by chieftoker (09/01/09 02:47 PM)
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HaRo On KoRn
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Re: My indoor cacti garden [Re: chieftoker]
#10980123 - 09/01/09 02:42 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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well i need a better living situation to even start growning just interested in it all
how long would peyote seeds stay good for growing
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Dr. uarewotueat
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Re: My indoor cacti garden [Re: BoB-RNK]
#10980142 - 09/01/09 02:44 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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i would say grafting will at least triple the growth rate blood 
nice little cacti garden you have got going on there BoB.
those flours lamps are pretty decent, i used to have 2 the same for cloning and vegging MJ 
welcome to the forum, please take a look at the rules thread stickied at the top of the forum if you have not done so already, thanks 
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Quote:
HaRo On KoRn said:
how long would peyote seeds stay good for growing
many years if stored correctly.
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Cactusdan
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Yeah, I just havent done any grafts to big stock to have the knowledge to say whether they will or won't go at that rate.
Lack of scions atm or else I'd be grafting like mad
Hopefully in a year or two i'll be set on the big grafts 
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