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Offlinetangoking
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Re: Boletus subglabripes? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #10949710 - 08/27/09 05:09 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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The yellow stem surface is adorned with the scabers that typify the genus Leccinum, but in Leccinum subglabripes the scabers are inconspicuous and are usually best observed with a hand lens; Peck's species name, Latin for "nearly smooth-stemmed," is quite appropriate.




http://www.mushroomexpert.com/leccinum_subglabripes.html

Perhaps that's the issue, it's not a Boletus, it's a Leccinum with really tiny scabers. Maybe examine the stipe with a magnifying glass and see if there's subtle scabers.

The pics look almost identical to your mushroom.

If you like I can email our bolete specialist and see what he thinks.


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Re: Boletus subglabripes? [Re: tangoking]
    #10949780 - 08/27/09 05:20 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

very subtle not anything like other leccinum. but they do seem to be there. my macro on my camera is crappy and cant get a decent shot through the magnafying glass.


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Re: Boletus subglabripes? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #10949791 - 08/27/09 05:21 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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bmarley3434 said:
very subtle not anything like other leccinum. but they do seem to be there. my macro on my camera is crappy and cant get a decent shot through the magnafying glass.



I think we nailed it.

bmarley you should join the NJMA on a foray. I think that you'd really enjoy it.

These people are for real bro. They're really good. They have centuries of collective experience. Some of the people in the club have named species.

Here's some of the boletes that were stacked up on one table:



and another table of mushrooms. Notice that those russulas are on both tables--we found them by the hundreds:



Each mushroom gets officially identified after the foray. It was a pretty amazing day.



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Re: Boletus subglabripes? [Re: tangoking]
    #10949864 - 08/27/09 05:34 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

i really want to. i just havent sent in the physical paper with the 15 dollar deposit to them yet. if it was online registration i would have been all over it! then just getting free saturdays. usually playing on saturday. but im really hoping it will happen before the season is over.

man boletes are tough. all this for one bolete sp.

we need an nj bolete guide cus i swear they are all slightly different here. it throws me off. the bicolor, sensibilis, pseudosensibilis nj distinctions are still throwing me way off.

"boletus pseudosensibilis: Pore Surface: Bright yellow; not bruising or bruising faintly when young--later bruising blue."

my species was so young. now its making me second guess this subglabripes as a young pseudosensibilis. AHHHHH

haha. boletes have been throwing me in circles for so long. theyre having fun with me. at least a few of you were along for the ride on this one haha.


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Re: Boletus subglabripes? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #10949874 - 08/27/09 05:35 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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bmarley3434 said:
man boletes are tough. all this for one bolete sp.



Trying to make an EXACT species determination on boletes can be time-consuming, but the the nice thing about boletes is that we have the "rule of thumb" in my signature.

If you were talking about eating an Amanita, then the ID needs to be accurate down to the species. Boletes are a little more friendly (there's no "death cap" or similar killer in the Boletus genus), and we can get away with some general guidelines.

Imma email the club's bolete specialist and see what he thinks.


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Re: Boletus subglabripes? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #10951453 - 08/27/09 09:40 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

OK, so I got an answer back from our resident bolete guru:

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New Jersey Bolete Guru said:
This bolete is typically called Boletus subglabripes; some mycologists call it Leccinum subglabripes because of the scruffy stipe texture that is more representative of the latter genus (look it up in mushroomexpert.com). This is the southern form of B. subglabripes; the northern form has much less red on the stipe.




Just as we suspected.


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Re: Boletus subglabripes? [Re: tangoking]
    #10951495 - 08/27/09 09:48 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

nice. now how do we get michael kuo to shade in his little nj on the map

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/images/kuo3/leccinum_subglabripes_map.gif

haha its all by its lonesome.


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Re: Boletus subglabripes? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #10951556 - 08/27/09 09:58 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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bmarley3434 said:
nice. now how do we get michael kuo to shade in his little nj on the map

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/images/kuo3/leccinum_subglabripes_map.gif

haha its all by its lonesome.



Well maybe we can send him an email because our bolete guru also pointed out that the big stack of boletes in my previous foray pics are also subglabripes (in addition to subtly hinting that I should have known what it was, since we collected like 100 of them).


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Re: Boletus subglabripes? [Re: tangoking]
    #10951632 - 08/27/09 10:07 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

do it! do it!


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Re: Boletus subglabripes? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #10951657 - 08/27/09 10:10 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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bmarley3434 said:
do it! do it!



I tried emailing him about something else and he didn't respond. You try.


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Re: Boletus subglabripes? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #10957487 - 08/28/09 07:36 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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maybe they need to revize the location on these. it seems to really fit more than any others.




Where did you get your location info?

Looky what I found yesterday!



Under Oaks in moss, this is the first time I've found this, thanks for posting your find.

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Re: Boletus subglabripes? [Re: falcon]
    #10965290 - 08/30/09 09:44 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

from michael kuo's site about b. subglabripes. i take it you found these in nj?

you can really see the scabers on yours much different than on the species i found. yours looks like a true subglabripes.


i ate the little guy by the way. it was pretty tasty, my first bolete. i just had a few small pieces to see how it tastes and how my body would react. no adverse reaction.



i have a feeling that the one i found was so young that some of its characteristics were yet to even be present.


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Re: Boletus subglabripes? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #10967742 - 08/30/09 05:29 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

This bolete is Leccinum rubropunctum (=Boletus rubropunctus) it gets identified as subglabripes often but subglabripes has yellow "scabers" on the stipe and rubropunctum has pinkish-red ones.

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Re: Boletus subglabripes? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #10967771 - 08/30/09 05:34 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

No, not in NJ, a state that borders it.

Cool that you tried it the Leccinum are pretty safe group of boletes, to eat from.

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Re: Boletus subglabripes? [Re: You can all etibem]
    #10975154 - 08/31/09 07:40 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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You can all etibem said:
This bolete is Leccinum rubropunctum (=Boletus rubropunctus) it gets identified as subglabripes often but subglabripes has yellow "scabers" on the stipe and rubropunctum has pinkish-red ones.




thanks, I missed your post

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Re: Boletus subglabripes? [Re: falcon]
    #10976095 - 08/31/09 10:11 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

nice etibem. good info!


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Re: Boletus subglabripes? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #10976239 - 08/31/09 10:26 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Nice little mushroom, did you get to try it yet?

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