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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
    #10954865 - 08/28/09 12:36 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

PM Ralphster44.  he can read this post and get back at you.  just a suggestion.:shrug:  it does seem to be a reoccurring issue.


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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
    #10954905 - 08/28/09 12:46 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quit the bashing, Ralph is the shit.  Accidents happen if you had over a hundred strains of cubes and other species going it would not be hard for some cube spores to contaminate your pans.  Now STFU and pm or email Ralph.  Even though you are not even sure there is a problem,  I have never grown Pan.Sup. but have heard the myc can be very dense.  But it does look like you have cube myc there,  wait till it fruits to be sure.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: CH HELL]
    #10954982 - 08/28/09 01:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Quit the bashing




I never said Ralphsters sucked, or is bad, I explained my problem and even said I give them the benefit of the doubt for a second time. I still respect Ralphsters, but I have a choice to choose whatever vendor I want. I think I wanna explore Sporeworks.

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Now STFU




Seriously ? :shocked: So hostile...


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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
    #10955139 - 08/28/09 01:24 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

It wasn't really aimed at you Boris,  I am just sick of seeing stuff like this in the cult forum.  Ralph is the best Cube vendor there is Sporeworks is the best exotic and edible vendor.  Buy from where ever you want I was just stating my opinion and I didn't mean for it to be hostile,  but it kinda was.Oops.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: CH HELL]
    #10955165 - 08/28/09 01:28 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

How about asking shroomery users for prints and shit. Iv only every bought one spore syringe in my life.

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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: badman]
    #10955215 - 08/28/09 01:38 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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How about asking shroomery users for prints and shit. Iv only every bought one spore syringe in my life.





I just sent him some but that involves more time and patience working with agar (which not everyone does/has). 

I prefer syringes from a vendor, ready to "study".  its a convenience thing.:syringe:


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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: badman]
    #10955280 - 08/28/09 01:51 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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How about asking shroomery users for prints and shit. Iv only every bought one spore syringe in my life.




I hear ya...  believe me, I tried. I went to the market and made a post saying I'm looking for pan prints (I didn't care what species) Said what I have to trade (I have a respectable spore library). I received no replies, so I opted to purchase from a vendor. My real life buddy The Shroomy 1 uses Ralph, so that's how I made my decisions.


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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
    #10955628 - 08/28/09 02:52 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

My first pan grow looks like its going to go tits up. should have let the casing dry faster :mad:. I know for next time suppose not all a waste.

I will keep trying untill I get some prints, my mate said to me
"it seems you want the bloody prints more than the trip"
But I want them both but prints only so i can give as many out as possible, i feel that i must do this

I find cubes will just grow no matter what.

Good luck mate and show us your grow when its ready.

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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
    #10956229 - 08/28/09 04:15 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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PM Ralphster44.  he can read this post and get back at you.  just a suggestion.:shrug:  it does seem to be a reoccurring issue.




I did, and I even sent an E-Mail with a link to this very post in both messages for him to come redeem himself.


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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
    #10956347 - 08/28/09 04:29 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I personally love Ralph's product. I've only ever had one dud of a syringe and I don't bitch about it as everything else I have purchased from Ralph has been great.
If they are cubes, and they do look to be, I'm sure Ralph will make it up to you.


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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
    #10956635 - 08/28/09 05:16 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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PM Ralphster44.  he can read this post and get back at you.  just a suggestion.:shrug:  it does seem to be a reoccurring issue.




I did, and I even sent an E-Mail with a link to this very post in both messages for him to come redeem himself.





Ralph's spores are for microscopic use so if you said "ahh it is growing like a cube" he is not going to respond.  If you said that the spores look like cubensis under the microscope then he will help.:shrug:

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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
    #10956711 - 08/28/09 05:33 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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PM Ralphster44.  he can read this post and get back at you.  just a suggestion.:shrug:  it does seem to be a reoccurring issue.




I did, and I even sent an E-Mail with a link to this very post in both messages for him to come redeem himself.





Ralph's spores are for microscopic use so if you said "ahh it is growing like a cube" he is not going to respond.  If you said that the spores look like cubensis under the microscope then he will help.:shrug:




Honestly, I haven't seen him once in the year I been here. I understand they have a disclaimer to cover there ass, but c'mon... Let put it this way: I'm sure 1% of people in ANY vendors lifetime sales have actually used there product for Microscopic Study ONLY. Without saying, guess what the other 99% of people are doing with the spores. Common sense can only prevail on an answer.

Aside from all of that, this is why I decided to put the post here instead of the Sponsor/vendor forum. Reading the sticky at the top of the page, Roadkill tells you:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7976094#7976094


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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
    #10956912 - 08/28/09 06:07 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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PM Ralphster44.  he can read this post and get back at you.  just a suggestion.:shrug:  it does seem to be a reoccurring issue.




I did, and I even sent an E-Mail with a link to this very post in both messages for him to come redeem himself.





Ralph's spores are for microscopic use so if you said "ahh it is growing like a cube" he is not going to respond.  If you said that the spores look like cubensis under the microscope then he will help.:shrug:




Honestly, I haven't seen him once in the year I been here. I understand they have a disclaimer to cover there ass, but c'mon... Let put it this way: I'm sure 1% of people in ANY vendors lifetime sales have actually used there product for Microscopic Study ONLY. Without saying, guess what the other 99% of people are doing with the spores. Common sense can only prevail on an answer.

Aside from all of that, this is why I decided to put the post here instead of the Sponsor/vendor forum. Reading the sticky at the top of the page, Roadkill tells you:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7976094#7976094






Ralph is here often,  not in the cult forum but to help and make sure people are happy with him.  He gave a new strain away in the market place last month.
He doesn't care what you do with his spores but he does not want to know you are growing any thing or he could go out of buisness.  I was just trying to help if you want to tell him you are growing then its your fault you don't get a responce.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: CH HELL]
    #10957275 - 08/28/09 07:01 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Really, I would just have dealt with him like I would any other vendor without a forum I could bitch on. 

And when you write your stories publicly of growing spores sold for microscopy use only, it would really behoove any vendor to then ban you from sales from their company.

Pretty much the stupidest thing you could do in a forum like this is bring up a vendor of spores sold for microscopy use only and complain that you had trouble growing them.  And it's a stupid that cuts two ways.

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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: mrEdude]
    #10957484 - 08/28/09 07:36 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Really, I would just have dealt with him like I would any other vendor without a forum I could bitch on. 

And when you write your stories publicly of growing spores sold for microscopy use only, it would really behoove any vendor to then ban you from sales from their company.

Pretty much the stupidest thing you could do in a forum like this is bring up a vendor of spores sold for microscopy use only and complain that you had trouble growing them.  And it's a stupid that cuts two ways.




ALL Psilocybin Genera Spores are for, "Microscopic use only". They just say that to protect there own asses. So your calling every one on this forum stupid for cultivating ?

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Active Mushroom Spores are sold for microscopic research only!~

If you want growing advice...

for the protection of our Vendors/Sponsors please discuss this in the Mushroom Cultivation forum.




Here we are in the cultivation forums where its safe for Vendors/sponsors to discuss... :flowstone:

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it would really behoove any vendor to then ban you from sales from their company.




Do you really think that's possible ? I can just see Ralph in his office, Shaking his fist at the sky saying, "DAMN YOU BORIS, YOUR MAKING ME LOOK BAD"! NOT! :lol: I'm one guy, what can I do ?

People are morphing this post into something that its not. I'm not here to bash Ralphsters, but I can see he has some ravenous fans. I guess Ralph can do no wrong, even when I present proof, and dig up other posts of people with problems just like mine. IMO, its not so much the mistake of the matter, its more-so the unprofessional approach to being a sponsored vendor. This was copy and pasted from a highly respected individual who's name I can't say, through a PM:

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What appears to be the problem is ralphster is buying prints from random growers and he has to trust these sources.  He gets ripped off quite a bit as shown by his fake PE fiasco (search the forums).  With most cubes no one seems to notice, although many of his strains are obviously wrong such as his PF redspore (with purple spores) and his PF classic without the bulbous base.  He isn't all that knowledgeable and just sells what he is sold with no way of confirming species or strain.




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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: mrEdude]
    #10957497 - 08/28/09 07:38 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

at least read the first post if your going to criticize the OP, he neva did any of that but simply asked if experienced pan growers could chime in with what they thought.  calm down:getstoned:

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I guess in a few days we'll see exactly what it produces, but anyone that's experienced with growing Pans I would love a reply from you. I would like to know what you think I'm working with here. It kinda angers me, but I'm torn because I've always loved Ralphster's, and this is the first and only bad review I can say I have with them. If indeed this is a Cube species, I wont be able to print em, trade em, give em away, nothing... Because I'm not gunna put a mystery cube out in circulation. ...Anyways, any-ones thoughts are welcome;





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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
    #10957606 - 08/28/09 07:51 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Do you really think that's possible ? I can just see Ralph in his office, Shaking his fist at the sky saying, "DAMN YOU BORIS, YOUR MAKING ME LOOK BAD"! NOT! :lol: I'm one guy, what can I do ?

People are morphing this post into something that its not. I'm not here to bash Ralphsters





Yeap you are only one person,  so if you say you are growing from his spores he is going to ignore you.

You are the only person turning this thread into something it's not.  I already gave my opinion but
until it fruits you can't be sure.  So once again be quiet.  Is that less hostile.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: CH HELL]
    #10957621 - 08/28/09 07:54 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Do you really think that's possible ? I can just see Ralph in his office, Shaking his fist at the sky saying, "DAMN YOU BORIS, YOUR MAKING ME LOOK BAD"! NOT! :lol: I'm one guy, what can I do ?

People are morphing this post into something that its not. I'm not here to bash Ralphsters





Yeap you are only one person,  so if you say you are growing from his spores he is going to ignore you.

You are the only person turning this thread into something it's not.  I already gave my opinion but
until it fruits you can't be sure.  So once again be quiet.  Is that less hostile.
CH



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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
    #10959772 - 08/29/09 03:11 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I am putting my neck out here... but, at this point, this REALLY needs to be discussed.

I have seen a lot of Ralph threads like this recently, and IMO, after looking at COUNTLESS 'strain' threads (and trust me, I have looked at countless 'strain' threads), this is indeed cause for concern.

Let me state this as simply as I can: Ralph has very little control over the spores he sells. He runs his company just like a free spore ring, except he charges people for his spores.

Ralph sells spores that independent growers (like you) send him.

Let me say that again.

Ralph sells spores that independent growers send him. If his growers say the spores he has been sent are pan cyans, he sells them as pan cyans.

Don't believe me?

RALPH ADVERTISES FOR NEW GROWERS ON HIS WEBSITE ALL THE TIME.

Ralph seemingly trusts that the spores he is given are what he is told THEY ARE. And lately, there have been countless mistakes... particularly with his exotics.

I imagine his cubes could be unreliable too... but cubes are cubes... so how the hell would anybody know for sure?

I don't know if Ralph barters with his growers or if he pays them for their work... but I am 99.99% certain he does not grow his own prints... nor does he even seem to have a microscope. Which simply means, Ralph has little to no quality control. If his growers fuck up, Ralph has no way of knowing.

Trust me, I would not have said all this if it were not becoming a pretty fucking obvious problem...

I know, we are all supposed to kiss the asses of all our sacred Shroomery vendors... especially guys like Ralph (He once SAVED The Shroomery! Honest.) but this is getting old. And I can no longer trust Ralph to sell the spores he says he is selling. I trust him to sell viable spores... but I no longer trust the integrity of his spore selection.

If you want quality control, Ralph is not your vendor. If you want cheap, viable spores, Ralph is your guy.

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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Rose]
    #10959940 - 08/29/09 05:40 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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