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Nihlus
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Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms
#10955703 - 08/28/09 03:03 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Touch Tripping?
Hi everyone. Last night I had a very strange experience with tripping from long touch exposure to fresh Psilocybe Cubensis mushrooms. Skeptical? I don't blame you. Many others are as well. The experiment is very simple and it is only to see if there may be some correlation between touching mushrooms and tripping - possibly suggesting that small threshold effects of Psilocybin may be able to be felt when absorbed through the skin. All I'm asking you to do is this -
After picking many fresh Psilocybe Cubensis mushrooms, pile them in a bowl and set an empty bowl next to it. Over the course of 60 minutes, simply pick up the mushrooms, play around with them in your hands, and move them back and forth between the 2 bowls making sure to get good skin contact all over your hands. Edit: in order to replicate exactly what I did on that night, make sure the mushrooms are moist from misting before picked and placed into the bowl. There should be a small amount of water content on your hands.
This little experiment can be done right after picking and right before the drying process. Report your experiences in this thread and please answer these 3 questions:
Did you feel any effects at all?
If so, answering as objectively as you can, do you think that you might have been experiencing the placebo effect in any way? Do you truly think that through the long exposure touching of these mushrooms, Psilocin has somehow made its way to your brain?
Share any other thoughts on your experience with trying this experiment. (total waste of time? you felt something, etc.)
Obviously I know that the placebo effect is very hard to rule out without blind experiment but please bear with me as this is impossible through an internet forum. I just want to hear from other people's direct experiences. I'm surprised there isn't very much information on this subject.
Thank you to anyone who participates.
Edited by Nihlus (08/28/09 07:00 PM)
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DeadHearts


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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: Nihlus]
#10955740 - 08/28/09 03:07 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Interesting, I will not be doing this but I hope others will
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sacredvisions88
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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: DeadHearts]
#10955770 - 08/28/09 03:13 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i can and will in about a week and a half WHOO HOO!!! fresh mushies!!
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.'o oOOOo`. "I am ... a mushroom
:~~~-.oOo o`. On whom the dew of heaven drops now and then."
`. \ ~-. oOOo. - John Ford
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badman


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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: sacredvisions88]
#10955921 - 08/28/09 03:34 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Placebo effect?
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avorg
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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: badman]
#10955987 - 08/28/09 03:44 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have noticed something akin to what you are talking about. Definite effects from handling fresh mushrooms. It may be some sort of placebo, but I like to think of it as an anticipatory reaction. I don't know if there is science behind it, but if I recall correctly, the highest concentration of actives is in the "skin" of the cap.
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Nihlus
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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: badman]
#10956020 - 08/28/09 03:47 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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badman said: Placebo effect?
Yeah really. Hard to determine. However last night I truly feel that what I experienced was beyond the placebo effect. It was a very thorough psychedelic experience and even though now I have access to plenty of mushrooms due to harvest, I don't feel like I need another psychedelic experience in a while.
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badman


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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: Nihlus]
#10956051 - 08/28/09 03:51 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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iv got fresh ones picked two hrs ago ill give it a shot
in the name of science.
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avorg
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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: badman]
#10956081 - 08/28/09 03:56 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
badman said: iv got fresh ones picked two hrs ago ill give it a shot
in the name of science.
godspeed. you're a brave soul
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xtofury
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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: badman]
#10956132 - 08/28/09 04:04 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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it is water soluable, that means it could very well be absorbed through the skin.
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fungusfeller
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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: badman]
#10956143 - 08/28/09 04:05 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i just can't do it. i am cursed with an extremely Strong sense of smell and i always just about puke of the smell at harvest time. not to mention the stank just don't come off
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avorg
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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: fungusfeller]
#10956201 - 08/28/09 04:12 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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fungusfeller said: i just can't do it. i am cursed with an extremely Strong sense of smell and i always just about puke of the smell at harvest time. not to mention the stank just don't come off
I have this happen when I handle various psychoactive materials. I think it stems from them making you vomit, and your body recognizes them as toxic in future encounters. Things I found pleasurable initially damn near make me vomit now from smell alone.
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fungusfeller
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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: avorg]
#10956272 - 08/28/09 04:19 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
avorg said:
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fungusfeller said: i just can't do it. i am cursed with an extremely Strong sense of smell and i always just about puke of the smell at harvest time. not to mention the stank just don't come off
I have this happen when I handle various psychoactive materials. I think it stems from them making you vomit, and your body recognizes them as toxic in future encounters. Things I found pleasurable initially damn near make me vomit now from smell alone.
nah, i can smell blood even if it across the room, it really is a curse
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sacredvisions88
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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: fungusfeller]
#10956378 - 08/28/09 04:36 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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what about a pure extraction of psilocin? i was looking at the psilocybe fanaticus tek to a pure alcohol extraction of psilocybin and psilocin and was thinking maybe absorbing a pure extraction of psilocin into the skin might give one heartier results.
anyone done a pure extraction lately?
-------------------- .-'~~~-.
.'o oOOOo`. "I am ... a mushroom
:~~~-.oOo o`. On whom the dew of heaven drops now and then."
`. \ ~-. oOOo. - John Ford
`.; / ~. OO:
.' ;-- `.o.'
,' ; ~~--'~
; ;
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everything is organic..
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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: sacredvisions88]
#10956596 - 08/28/09 05:08 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well between 5-6pm i played with 2 bowls of fresh. I then waited an hr I am not feeling anything.
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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: truskool]
#10956638 - 08/28/09 05:17 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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did you have any contact with an ointment or any sort of trans-dermal lotion before the episode. if so the chemical could have leached to the blood system with the aid of the lotion.
some lotions work better than others you know.
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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: xtofury]
#10956658 - 08/28/09 05:20 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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xtofury said: it is water soluable, that means it could very well be absorbed through the skin.
There are three ways mechanisms by which drugs can pass through the skin, two of them favour lipid soluble drugs massively. Only the follicle route allows water soluble drug passage, even still its not favoured by much and the drug will need to be in solution, lotion or cream.
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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: Nihlus]
#10956677 - 08/28/09 05:26 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I will try this later, but I thought I'd share a related story.
My cat went to a phish show with a good sized bag of mushies in his shoe. He ingested about 2 dry grams. It started pouring down rain and his shoes got soaked along w/ the contents. The trip was much, much more powerful than anticipated. When reality finally started to settle in on him, he found himself wandering around the back of the parking lot, not quite knowing what had happened. He felt something squishy in his shoes and checked it out to see what it was and realized what was up.
However I remain skeptical that merely handling them could have similar effect. You're just as likely to feel funny just reminiscing about tripping.
-------------------- The above post is fictional, hypothetical, or downright nonsensical.
Edited by anonjon (08/28/09 05:29 PM)
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Nihlus
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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: ratdog]
#10956903 - 08/28/09 06:06 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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ratdog said: did you have any contact with an ointment or any sort of trans-dermal lotion before the episode. if so the chemical could have leached to the blood system with the aid of the lotion.
some lotions work better than others you know.
Nope. My hands were moist because the mushrooms were recently misted and the room was like 78 degrees so my palms might have been naturally sweating a little too... I wonder if water/moisture on the hands would make a difference in the experiment.
edit: I changed the instructions a tad to replicate the conditions from that night I experienced effects.
Edited by Nihlus (08/28/09 07:01 PM)
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Nihlus
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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: Nihlus]
#10965909 - 08/30/09 12:26 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anyone else down for this? My thread in the Psychedelic Experience forum got closed because I'm obviously an idiot for even suggesting that this is possible.
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anonjon
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Re: Community Experiment - Need help from cultivators handling fresh mushrooms [Re: Nihlus]
#10965925 - 08/30/09 12:29 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i taped caps to my nipples for a few hours and got nothin, sorry
-------------------- The above post is fictional, hypothetical, or downright nonsensical.
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