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Shroomery... can you feel me on this one?
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Over the past year I have been able to experiment with several new drugs. I have also done tons of research on the effects and history of all the ones I have used (MDMA, Shrooms, Acid, Marijuana).

I find that the more knowledge and information I learn, the more I can not have conversations about the truths of drugs with those who believe what authority has told them all their life (false to misinformation).

My boyfriend and I got some cid the other night and had the most amazing experience. His cousin and buddy came over to smoke with us today, and my boyrfriend mentioned our trip. They both respond (always responding this way everytime shrooms, MDMA, or acid is mentioned) that they don't like it, are not into it, know that it is so bad for you, would never do it again, don't like the state of mind, and/or had a bad experience.

After that my boyfriend mentions wanting to try mescaline. His cousin responds, "Well try too many things and you will be a druggie." (In a way that sounded like he thought we could get addicted). I immediately jumped on it, and tried to explain the truths about the drugs. I have tried this before and the same thing happened that takes place every time that I try to defend responsible, knowledgeable, leisurely drug usage.

They of course do not listen, and continue to say how bad it all is. Yet, our buddy thinks doing cocaine is fine, in comparison.

Now am I alone here? Does it bother anyone else that those who are not aware of the truths of responsible drug users (which there are these people, and I consider myself one) do not even care to hear or even believe what is true? I try to tell them, and they say things like acid will eat wholes in your brain. Correct me if I am wrong, but pure LSD has no effects at all, besides flashbacks and if used like every day there are social effects. I am not 100% about the effects of MDMA on the brain, but I know it is not good to do all the time. If you do it occasionally I do not believe you are hurting yourself too terribly.

I do not like the judgment that comes with just wanting to expand one's mine. Any thoughts?

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: pjoe08]
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IMO...i could care less what they think...they'll keep saying negative things like they always do, and have been ever since, and i'll keep doing my thing..they'll always be someone out there that will think you're wrong in what you do and what you put into your mind and body...fuck em, who are they to you? that's what you should be asking yourself!  :2cents:


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When the many become the One

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: pjoe08]
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Now am I alone here? Does it bother anyone else that those who are not aware of the truths of responsible drug users (which there are these people, and I consider myself one) do not even care to hear or even believe what is true? I try to tell them, and they say things like acid will eat wholes in your brain. Correct me if I am wrong, but pure LSD has no effects at all, besides flashbacks and if used like every day there are social effects. I am not 100% about the effects of MDMA on the brain, but I know it is not good to do all the time. If you do it occasionally I do not believe you are hurting yourself too terribly.




yeah pisses me off beyond belief, they say all this shit without actually having done any research or have any actual evidence, they just repeat whatever shi they've heard from the media. just got to learn to live with ignorant people.

Edited by ShroomerRoss (08/28/09 03:08 PM)

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: ShroomerRoss]
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i dont mind what people think i just find it shit getting looked down on coz i use weed or w.e,but saying that i used to be the same before i started doing my own research.

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: ShroomerRoss]
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i don't listen to the governments brainwash and propaganda.
i know what's good for myself, not him.
i can do what i feel like as long as i don't hurt someone else.

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: ShroomerRoss]
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I used to be that way too. Though I dont recall not wanting to hear what someone had to say. Thanks guys for the responses.

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: elementswrath]
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elementswrath said:
i don't listen to the governments brainwash and propaganda.
i know what's good for myself, not him.
i can do what i feel like as long as i don't hurt someone else.



best advice given :smile:


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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: ShroomerRoss]
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I think we all have gone through this bullshit before. Just like for example, I got a bottle of percocets for a burn that I got recently, and since it didnt hurt, I'm just eating them when I want to. My friend kept telling me I should sell them all so I dont get addicted to them. Addicted from 40 percs? Yea I dont fucking think so.

Or the same friend saying you shouldnt do cocaine once in a great while because one time can be addictive. He says he does his research when it is fucking obvious that he doesnt. It makes me just do more drugs in spite of this sometimes, and I'm not addicted to anything because I know how to pace myself and not be retarded about it.

I tend to keep most of my drug use from all of my friends because some of them are cool with tripping, and some definitly arent. Same goes for weed. I just learned to ignore everyones ignorance, and do what I feel I want to do with myself.


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They call me Mark

:penguinmonkey:




Edited by œȾȿȝȴɧʢǥ (ȏɟ/ȿɮ/ɷɖ 68:82 PM)

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: Sadhguru]
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the entertainment comes when 30 years down the line, he realizes he was wrong. Just sit back, relax, and understand that communication in itself has failed. Just be glad you have gone over the hump they are stuck on. You can't blame them entirely. Perhaps if they grew up under different circumstances, they would feel you better.

Sometimes I wish I could get a supersoaker filled with LSD and just shoot it into congress :wink:

that would just be playing dirty though.


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If there were no rewards to reap,No loving embrace to see me through
This tedious path I've chosen here,I certainly would've walked away by now.
Gonna wait it out.
If there were no desire to heal The damaged and broken met along
This tedious path I've chosen hereI certainly would've walked away by now.
And I still may ... (sigh) ... I still may.Be patient.
I must keep reminding myself of this.

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: desiretoheal]
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desiretoheal said:
the entertainment comes when 30 years down the line, he realizes he was wrong. Just sit back, relax, and understand that communication in itself has failed. Just be glad you have gone over the hump they are stuck on. You can't blame them entirely. Perhaps if they grew up under different circumstances, they would feel you better.

Sometimes I wish I could get a supersoaker filled with LSD and just shoot it into congress :wink:

that would just be playing dirty though.



if i am around when you do this, shoot me!:smile:

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: elementswrath]
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of course of course!



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If there were no rewards to reap,No loving embrace to see me through
This tedious path I've chosen here,I certainly would've walked away by now.
Gonna wait it out.
If there were no desire to heal The damaged and broken met along
This tedious path I've chosen hereI certainly would've walked away by now.
And I still may ... (sigh) ... I still may.Be patient.
I must keep reminding myself of this.

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: elementswrath]
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elementswrath said:
desiretoheal said:
the entertainment comes when 30 years down the line, he realizes he was wrong. Just sit back, relax, and understand that communication in itself has failed. Just be glad you have gone over the hump they are stuck on. You can't blame them entirely. Perhaps if they grew up under different circumstances, they would feel you better.

Sometimes I wish I could get a supersoaker filled with LSD and just shoot it into congress :wink:

that would just be playing dirty though.



if i am around when you do this, shoot me!:smile:





hahaha! yess me too! pleease!


Thanks guys! I like all of your thoughts and responses. Glad I am not alone on this one.

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: pjoe08]
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im just gonna show up high and already in tripped out, if you wanna shoot me with you acid cannons go ahead, I won't mind :smile:


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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: markofthebeast]
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I'm sure everyone here "feels" you on this one. I just get extremely frustrated with these types of people. I am not arrogant or conceited at all, but as an observation - I know more about psychedelics (generally and specifically) than anyone I know personally. I usually keep my mouth shut in these situations until I hear a single bit of reasonable dialogue that is grounded in more than ignorance. Most people who talk about how dr00gz are "wrong" and bad for you and what not - those people have already made their minds up to keep their consciousness locked inside a tiny box.


My favorite interaction from these people, however, comes when they are around me while I'm cheesing my brains out. It's fun to be giggling/laughing uncontrollably while journeying through an introspective universe only to look across the room and catch the expression of someone who is against drugs try to contemplate what's so funny  :what:

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: amsty tripper]
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The more you educate yourself on substances, the sooner you'll notice, that those same people and others like those people that spread misinformation/mythography on "drugs," will not bring up the discussion of "drugs" when you're around... for fear that they will make an ass out of themselves.

If you think that topic is taboo, imagine how the conversation goes explaining to someone the origins and history of psychedelics/entheogens in various religions...

Some say money is power, but knowledge is power too.

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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I have a hard time caring about other people's ignorance.


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koods said:
Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

Life-long trip report

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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money is made up, it doesn't exist.
knowledge is the only true power we humans have.
why do you think the government always gives us misinformation?

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: amsty tripper]
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amsty tripper said:
I'm sure everyone here "feels" you on this one. I just get extremely frustrated with these types of people. I am not arrogant or conceited at all, but as an observation - I know more about psychedelics (generally and specifically) than anyone I know personally. I usually keep my mouth shut in these situations until I hear a single bit of reasonable dialogue that is grounded in more than ignorance. Most people who talk about how dr00gz are "wrong" and bad for you and what not - those people have already made their minds up to keep their consciousness locked inside a tiny box.


My favorite interaction from these people, however, comes when they are around me while I'm cheesing my brains out. It's fun to be giggling/laughing uncontrollably while journeying through an introspective universe only to look across the room and catch the expression of someone who is against drugs try to contemplate what's so funny  :what:




I agree with what you have to say, but I must point out because its been irritating me for quite some time while Ive been on this board recently. Why does everyone keep using the term "dr00gz"? It is utterly gay.

Please stop this faggotry.




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They call me Mark

:penguinmonkey:




Edited by œȾȿȝȴɧʢǥ (ȏɟ/ȿɮ/ɷɖ 68:82 PM)

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: pfxtc]
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pfxtc said:
I have a hard time caring about other people's ignorance.




I used to be the same way. More recently, however, I have just said fuck it and will try and expunge as much ignorance as I can with what limited knowledge I have. It's interesting, to me, to watch other's reactions to hearing my 2 cents on what's actually going on in the universe.

A couple of my friends from way back in the day (before I did any dr00gz) are still mad at me because I convinced a mutual friend (and part of their "let's-be-better-than-everyone-as-christians-who-know-what's-up" group) that doing psychedelics was about as wrong as watching TV was, in that it does no damage or good. Obviously I disagreed with this conclusion; but I considered it a victory due to the fact that the convorsation started with 5 people ganging up on me to tell me smoking weed is a sin. They got ear-raped with reason.

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: elementswrath]
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im just like you when it comes to trying to explain to non-users

but what i learned is, drugs just aren't for everyone and lucky for you, you get to enjoy them.

some people just like to stick to there old ways and live in the dark, others simply judge a drug off of only one experience which you cannot do. you have to time it multiple times to really know whats up.

but fuck them, their unlucky and ignorant to reality.

the key is to find people that already understand what you understand, then you just get to enjoy it together.

let people learn for themselves, thats how you learned what you know about these drugs. let them do the same. if they never do, then it just wasnt meant for them

good post though :thumbup:


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I love Psilocybin.  :shrug:


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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: markofthebeast]
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rustyeffect said:Why does everyone keep using the term "dr00gz"? It is utterly gay.





Sorry, looks like I used the term again while you were making this post :blush:

To me, drugs is a loaded word with such ridiculous social and cultural connotations that I, for whatever reason, feel the need to exagerate this  word's stigma further with it's internet-age alternate spelling.

Drugs - Any chemical that causes a reaction on a person's body or mind  when given to that person (i.e. tylenol, vikodin, midol, whatever)

dr00gz - A drug made illegal for criminal reasons that the large cross section of society that is blissfully ignorant to truth considers evil (i.e. THC, cocaine, psilo, lysergic etc.)


I appologize for my contribution to the colorful tree.

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: tracedwards313]
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tracedwards313 said:
im just like you when it comes to trying to explain to non-users

but what i learned is, drugs just aren't for everyone and lucky for you, you get to enjoy them.

some people just like to stick to there old ways and live in the dark, others simply judge a drug off of only one experience which you cannot do. you have to time it multiple times to really know whats up.

but fuck them, their unlucky and ignorant to reality.

the key is to find people that already understand what you understand, then you just get to enjoy it together.

let people learn for themselves, thats how you learned what you know about these drugs. let them do the same. if they never do, then it just wasnt meant for them

good post though :thumbup:




Thanks man. It had been bothering me for a while. I figured I could find some support here on the boards. We just moved to Austin so we have been trying to find our kind of crowd. In the mean time we hang out with who we know. Of course, none of them are like us and understand the joys of leisurely drug usage. I am being patient though. I know in time these friends will come.


I appreciate all the responses and I like what you all have had to say.

:awesome:

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: tracedwards313]
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tracedwards313 said:
im just like you when it comes to trying to explain to non-users

but what i learned is, drugs just aren't for everyone and lucky for you, you get to enjoy them.

some people just like to stick to there old ways and live in the dark, others simply judge a drug off of only one experience which you cannot do. you have to time it multiple times to really know whats up.

but fuck them, their unlucky and ignorant to reality.

the key is to find people that already understand what you understand, then you just get to enjoy it together.

let people learn for themselves, thats how you learned what you know about these drugs. let them do the same. if they never do, then it just wasnt meant for them

good post though :thumbup:




I agree completely.


Doesn't mean I can't catalyze that shit like an alice in wanderland version of johnny appleseed  :vaped:

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: amsty tripper]
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amsty tripper said:
Quote:
rustyeffect said:Why does everyone keep using the term "dr00gz"? It is utterly gay.





Sorry, looks like I used the term again while you were making this post :blush:

To me, drugs is a loaded word with such ridiculous social and cultural connotations that I, for whatever reason, feel the need to exagerate this  word's stigma further with it's internet-age alternate spelling.

Drugs - Any chemical that causes a reaction on a person's body or mind  when given to that person (i.e. tylenol, vikodin, midol, whatever)

dr00gz - A drug made illegal for criminal reasons that the large cross section of society that is blissfully ignorant to truth considers evil (i.e. THC, cocaine, psilo, lysergic etc.)


I appologize for my contribution to the colorful tree.



Its all good dude.

The term just seems to me like something a 15 year old kid would type on the int3rw3bz or somrthing.


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They call me Mark

:penguinmonkey:




Edited by œȾȿȝȴɧʢǥ (ȏɟ/ȿɮ/ɷɖ 68:82 PM)

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Re: Shroomery... can you feel me on this one? [Re: amsty tripper]
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amsty tripper said:
the convorsation started with 5 people ganging up on me to tell me smoking weed is a sin. They got ear-raped with reason.



lol

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