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Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds
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so i ate 11 seeds, i chewed on them for about 10 Min's and then swallowed them. i did this at 8:43 pm yesterday then went to the park to hang out with friends and listen to music. i didn't feel anything at all not even some nausea. i weight 120 pounds and I'm 5.9 i cant sleep tonight and I'm not tripping at all. my cousin took 12 about 8 hours before me and he said he didn't feel anything at all and he couldn't sleep at all either but that lucky bastard feel asleep about an hour ago leaving me the last one awake and i want to go to sleep since this shit didn't work but i cant. can someone tell me why they didn't work and how i can go to sleep tonight

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Re: Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds [Re: meko09]
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you have to eat way more, dude. :lolsy:


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Re: Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds [Re: Moronicus]
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are you sure because erowids said to only take 12 for an intense trip and i dont want to fall into i a trip thats to strong for me.

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Re: Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds [Re: meko09]
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didn't take enough? 11 for HWBR is a high dose

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Re: Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds [Re: Acid_Raindrops]
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i know right, well me and my cousin are gonna try again in a couple days. were thinking of scraping the outer layer first. im gonna take 15 and hes taking 20. i know some weed would realy help activate it but were on probation and cant smoke. is there another way to activate the the lsa besides smoking weed. i tried smoking some cancer (ciggerettes) but that didnt do nothing.

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Re: Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds [Re: meko09]
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Try grinding them and them putting them in some liquid for about 15 min. or so and then drinking that.


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Re: Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds [Re: ishallgofurthur]
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Finally, OP can now take his dose...


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Re: Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds [Re: KingEmblem]
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KingEmblem said:
Finally, OP can now take his dose...


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Re: Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds [Re: misterogerz]
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you should have grown them.:vineclimb:


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Re: Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds [Re: Dragonaut]
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Try the cold water extraction. :thumbup:


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Re: Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds [Re: Earth Child]
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First off, what strain of HBWR did you consume? Ghana? Ayurvedic? Or Hawaiian? Because if it's anything besides Hawaiian you really won't get much.

Secondly, LSA in itself is a very mellow and subtle psychedelic and its true psychedelic effects are pronounced when weed is smoked (at that point it becomes a full-blown borderline LSD trip). Also there is a distinction in the nature of trips with LSA in regards to the different seeds.

When I did some trials earlier this year with 100 HBWR's over the course of a month or two I found it better off as a nootropic as it was mostly mental for me. The vasoconstriction is extreme and contributes to heavy sedation but for the most part it was a mental trip.

Morning Glory seeds on the other hand produce much more of a typical trip (in regards to visuals and whatnot) but with a more spiritual air to the experience.


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Re: Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds [Re: sunset_mission]
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idk, after I read some reports about people vomiting blood while tripping on HBWR, and reading about the cyanide-like compounds... I'll never touch the things. I actually have some that I've had for years and I have no plans for them whatsoever.


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Re: Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
idk, after I read some reports about people vomiting blood while tripping on HBWR, and reading about the cyanide-like compounds... I'll never touch the things. I actually have some that I've had for years and I have no plans for them whatsoever.


Cyanide-like compounds???? I know that frequent ingestion of them can cause some gastrointestinal problems but I've never heard of anything like that. Source?

And hey, if you have no plans for them how about snailmailin' them over to this here LSA enthusiast? :zoidberg:


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Re: Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds [Re: sunset_mission]
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hmmm... well it is common that people believe that there are cyanogenic glycosides in HBWR seeds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycoside#Cyanogenic_glycosides


but upon searching for a source it seems that none exist. It may be a totally unfounded rumor. Thank you for challenging me on that...

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So anyway, this whole Cyanogenic Glycosides in HBWR or MGS was bothering me. I consider myself very well versed in the scientific literature regarding many ethnogens. I had never seen a report of them containing Cyanogenic Glycosides (HBWR or MGS). I had however seen many reports of various Resin Glycosides. Which BTW are not water soluble. So, I spent several hours looking through the literature. Sure enough no scientific or reputable sources for there being the presence of Cyanogenic Glycosides in Argyreia Nervose (HBWR) or in any species of the Ipomoea genus. Resin Glycosides were commonly found in the Convolvulaceae Family which contain Argyreia Nervosa, various Morning Glories and Sweet Potatoes.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolvulaceae

Here is a very extensive chemical analysis of Argyreia Nervosa.
globalresearchonline.net/journ...03.pdf
www.goa-shoom.net/botanica/...erpent.pdf

I found several articles that mention Cyanogenic Glycosides, but do not say the source, and many question the reference in the article.
www.thefullwiki.org/Hawaiian..._woodrose

I looked for the Known Plants to contain Cyanogenic Glycosides, I did not find Argyreia Nervosa or Ipomoea Sp.
books.google.com/books
www.scielo.br/pdf/babt/v4...a06v43n5.pdf
www.mdconsult.com/das/searc...17236210-6

I also looked at toxic plants looking for references to HBWR containing Cyanogenic Glycosides.
books.google.com/books
www.slv.se/upload/dokum...endium_en.pdf

So back to Resin Glycosides which I did find...
www.springerlink.com/content...16rj35h/
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18981615 as mentioned they are even found in sweet potatos, that is how common they are in the Convolvulaceae Family.
www.lycaeum.org/leda/Docum....8751.shtml
www.labome.org/topics/org...e-3884.html

Other references...
www.chemicalforums.com/index.php
dmt-nexus.com/forum/default.aspx
diss.kib.ki.se/2009/978-9.../thesis.pdf
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18788710
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20018470
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12768530
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12622256

Anyway that is hardly a complete list of the sources I checked today. I also check my references in my personal library.

TIHKAL: Alexander Shulgin
Plants of the Gods:Richard Evans Schultes, Albert Hofmann, & Christian Ratsch
LSD: My Problem Child: Albert Hofmann
Pharmacotheon: Jonathan Ott

Once again, it was mentioned that the nausea causing alkaloids were not water soluble. Having used just water and ground seeds, and eaten raw seeds, I know from experience that it does lessen the nausea effects. Ethanol extraction seemed to diminish them even more(once again from personal experience). Though some of the Resin Glycosides are soluble in Ether, and some are only soluble in Fats/Oils. So, it would seem them to be of the fat/oil soluble variety. Also this seems to be the case when looking at the Ethnobotany/Anthropology studies and current/past use by South American Natives.

So in conclusion, I have not reason to believe that Argyreia Nervosa or Ipomoea SP. contain Cyanogenic Glycosides. I would be happy to review any Scientific report or look at lab data that suggests otherwise, in which case I would change my mind on the matter. The Nausea Effect has mostly to do with Resin Glycosides that are not Cyanogenic, and what nausea that is left after extraction is simply to do the indolic alkaloids, in this case Lysergamides. This seems common with all Tryptamines and Phenethylamines. To reduce said effects, an empty stomach, various forms of fasting and good diet, Peppermint and/or Ginger Root. Ganja. It is often said that if you are pure you will not purge. In the NAC it is called "Getting Well".

Note: All above mentioned activities regarding ingestion and/or extraction where conducted in Holland, specifically Amsterdam, where it is legal to do so.
Disclaimer: All information provided here is for strictly for educational purposes only.


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Re: Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
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Well, first off, I'd say that 11 seeds would be a fairly high dose.  When it comes to HBWR I tend to not pass the 5 seed mark (I don't fully "trip", but definitely have increased mental activity, extreme vasoconstriction, and a bit of nausea).  Going past the 5 seed mark usually leaves my stomache in a heap and my brain in a puddle.

Your inability to fall asleep definitely tells me that you were probably feeling the effects.  Even when only consuming 2 seeds I find myself unable to sleep for at least 6 hours due to the increased mental activity, increased visual and audio perception, and the extreme vasoconstriction.

HBWR seeds don't seem to abide to the popular terms of the word "trip".  While things do get vaguely visual, the trip is highly mental.  If you're looking for a more visual trip via the seed, give heavenly blue morning glory seeds a shot.


...well now I feel like an idiot.  Just realized that this concern was posted a year ago.  Will leave my response here in case anyone else had the same trouble.


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Re: Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds [Re: meko09]
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F-F-F-F-F-FUCK HBWR SEEDS

They are not fun.
11 is too much, let alone 20....

I could say a lot more about these seeds but it would be useless because i know that you are trying to get your hands on anything that will make you trip.

Just don't do them man. They bring the power of death upon you, that's the "trip". Being closer to death, as for any psychedelic. But HBWR is not the path you wanna take.


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