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Is Ralph Slackin' ?
#10953015 - 08/28/09 01:54 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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About a couple months ago I ordered a Pan Suphanburi Syringe from Ralphster's. The syringe is labeled, "Sup" and I knocked my jars up with it right away when I got it. A few weeks down the road I'm getting nothing, no Myc growth, no contams, ...nothing. I send an e-mail explaining I'm a seasoned cultivator so you can expect I did everything right, and I respect them as a sponsor, but there product failed to produce anything. They send me a replacement, "NO PROBLEM" ! Again, its labeled, "Sup" and I go right to work with it. 3-4 days later, MYC GROWTH!!! A week later ...things start looking very, "Cube like". I have researched pan and cube myc to be very different. Pan myc is very thin, cottony, wispy, and fragile. Cube myc is very dense, strong, and has a very distinct Rhizomorphic growth. My Jars look like this:

Rhizomorphic Myc climbing the jar walls:

I spawn it, let it colonize and into the Martha it goes:

I guess in a few days we'll see exactly what it produces, but anyone that's experienced with growing Pans I would love a reply from you. I would like to know what you think I'm working with here. It kinda angers me, but I'm torn because I've always loved Ralphster's, and this is the first and only bad review I can say I have with them. If indeed this is a Cube species, I wont be able to print em, trade em, give em away, nothing... Because I'm not gunna put a mystery cube out in circulation. ...Anyways, any-ones thoughts are welcome;
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10953029 - 08/28/09 02:02 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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no tellin until it starts producing lol
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: nickelz34]
#10953045 - 08/28/09 02:08 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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nickelz34 said: no tellin until it starts producing lol
like I said, Panaelous and cubensis myc characteristics are like night and day. So far this looks like every other cube grow I've did.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10953070 - 08/28/09 02:15 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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watching.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: nastos]
#10953104 - 08/28/09 02:25 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i hope he is not slacking......i am about to order syringes. i think it will be fine, who's stupid enough to mix it?
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elementswrath said: i hope he is not slacking......i am about to order syringes. i think it will be fine, who's stupid enough to mix it?
Or perhaps they thought I'd be too dumb to notice the difference ?
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10953154 - 08/28/09 02:36 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Boris said:
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elementswrath said: i hope he is not slacking......i am about to order syringes. i think it will be fine, who's stupid enough to mix it?
Or perhaps they thought I'd be too dumb to notice the difference ?
i don't know, ralph usually doesn't do this. he has a good rep. it could just be a malfunction of some sort on his website. nobody's perfect.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10953157 - 08/28/09 02:37 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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or maybe hes got 8million arms.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: just me]
#10953722 - 08/28/09 07:02 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i recently ordered two syringes from ralph, a cube cambo and a pan cam. i used the cubie syringe first. i had 2 bags of rye berries that i bought already sealed and pasteurized or sterilized how ever they do it, i bought them from high mountain compost. i injected 5cc in one bag and 3cc in the other. i did this to see which one grew faster, better. i was very sterile when i did this. i did every thing like the directions said(this was my first time) 7 days pass and nothing. everyone tells me to be patient. 14 days pass, nothing. so i sent ralph a msg explaining this and and he sent me a new syringe. the new one looks much better than the other one. its got spores all through it. both the cube cambo and the pan cam looked like plain water. then on sunday night i knocked up 3 jars of wbs that i did using 6ts wild birdseed tek with the pan cam syringe. this morn i look at my jars, there is nothing in there. im not going to bitch about it though cause i am new and i did the wbs myself so it could very easily be my fault. although i really dont think it is. but ya, my first experience was a bad one.
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Thats cube 100%.
Sorry to hear that mate.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: badman]
#10953737 - 08/28/09 07:13 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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thats a pretty deep depth for doing pans, dont they only need 1.5 inches and a thin 1/4 inch casing layer.
The rhyzo at the top of the jar does suggest that it could be cube mycelium but idk.
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I think you being to drastic-- how many times have you ordered from ralphs? I mean if its the first time you were not satified with a dud syringe he sent you another one to rectify the matter and from the pics its working-.....
Cut him a break- i had it happen to me but in return they sent me 2 for the incovenience... It was like 4 years ago... it can be many variables to why the needles was a dud...But they replace it for yah... Thats cool..
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botanisthype said: I think you being to drastic-- how many times have you ordered from ralphs? I mean if its the first time you were not satified with a dud syringe he sent you another one to rectify the matter and from the pics its working-.....
Cut him a break- i had it happen to me but in return they sent me 2 for the incovenience... It was like 4 years ago... it can be many variables to why the needles was a dud...But they replace it for yah... Thats cool..
Yeah from what I've seen on the forums, Ralph rectifies any wrong shipments, etc etc, without second thought and often throws an extra in the deal just to ensure that everyone is happy. You can't find a much better deal than that, can you? Personally, I've never ordered from Ralph (I've been living off free prints for a while ) but I plan to soon, gotta support the good guys in this game.
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botanisthype said: I think you being to drastic-- how many times have you ordered from ralphs?
This was my 2nd time. First time I loved the genetics in the product I received, So I decided to come back. 2nd order had a dud so I gave Ralph the benefit of the doubt and just nicely explained the syringe was a dud, or something. Now the replacement is labeled Pan Sup, and has Cube spores inside....
I don't know if I should keep on letting it go, or go to another sponsor. But see, we have sponsors so we can trust them to have good products, or is it so the shroomery/sponsors can make more $ ?  You start to wonder. I don't want anyone to think I'm being over reactive, cause I still wanna give Ralph the benefit of the doubt, and believe its a great vendor. These are just some thoughts that run through my head.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10954456 - 08/28/09 11:18 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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maybe its some thick pan myc and your pans are going to flush like crazy, be optimistic, Ive ordered from ralph half a dozen times and have been 100% ecstatic with every purchase.
if those are pans, (which Ive never worked with yet) they are lookin healthy.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10954481 - 08/28/09 11:24 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe someone mislabeled a batch of syringes. Imagine how pissed others will be when they try growing their pans under cube conditions.
Let Ralph know that he, likely, made some mistake so that he might rectify not only your order, but any future problems that may be encountered. Don't worry so much, he's not trying to swindle you. It's just a mistake, it happens.
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post your pics in the vendors/sponcers forum and maybe ralph will chime in on the matter, you got pics so you got proof.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
#10954593 - 08/28/09 11:53 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Most def looks like a cubes MYC.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
#10954758 - 08/28/09 12:18 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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13shrooms said: post your pics in the vendors/sponcers forum and maybe ralph will chime in on the matter, you got pics so you got proof.
I'm not sure I could get my full point across after reading this stickied rule on the Vendor/sponcer forum:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7976094#7976094
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10954765 - 08/28/09 12:19 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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"We have to create culture, don't watch TV, don't read magazines, don't even listen to NPR. Create your own roadshow. The nexus of space and time where you are now is the most immediate sector of your universe, and if you're worrying about Michael Jackson or Bill Clinton or somebody else, then you are disempowered, you're giving it all away to icons, icons which are maintained by an electronic media so that you want to dress like X or have lips like Y. This is shit-brained, this kind of thinking. That is all cultural diversion, and what is real is you and your friends and your associations, your highs, your orgasms, your hopes, your plans, your fears. And we are told 'no', we're unimportant, we're peripheral. 'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.' And then you're a player, you don't want to even play in that game. You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world."
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10954865 - 08/28/09 12:36 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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PM Ralphster44. he can read this post and get back at you. just a suggestion. it does seem to be a reoccurring issue.
good luck.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
#10954905 - 08/28/09 12:46 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quit the bashing, Ralph is the shit. Accidents happen if you had over a hundred strains of cubes and other species going it would not be hard for some cube spores to contaminate your pans. Now STFU and pm or email Ralph. Even though you are not even sure there is a problem, I have never grown Pan.Sup. but have heard the myc can be very dense. But it does look like you have cube myc there, wait till it fruits to be sure. CH
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: CH HELL]
#10954982 - 08/28/09 01:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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CH HELL said: Quit the bashing
I never said Ralphsters sucked, or is bad, I explained my problem and even said I give them the benefit of the doubt for a second time. I still respect Ralphsters, but I have a choice to choose whatever vendor I want. I think I wanna explore Sporeworks.
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CH HELL said: Now STFU
Seriously ? So hostile...
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10955139 - 08/28/09 01:24 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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It wasn't really aimed at you Boris, I am just sick of seeing stuff like this in the cult forum. Ralph is the best Cube vendor there is Sporeworks is the best exotic and edible vendor. Buy from where ever you want I was just stating my opinion and I didn't mean for it to be hostile, but it kinda was.Oops. CH
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: CH HELL]
#10955165 - 08/28/09 01:28 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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How about asking shroomery users for prints and shit. Iv only every bought one spore syringe in my life.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: badman]
#10955215 - 08/28/09 01:38 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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badman said: How about asking shroomery users for prints and shit. Iv only every bought one spore syringe in my life.
I just sent him some but that involves more time and patience working with agar (which not everyone does/has).
I prefer syringes from a vendor, ready to "study". its a convenience thing.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: badman]
#10955280 - 08/28/09 01:51 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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badman said: How about asking shroomery users for prints and shit. Iv only every bought one spore syringe in my life.
I hear ya... believe me, I tried. I went to the market and made a post saying I'm looking for pan prints (I didn't care what species) Said what I have to trade (I have a respectable spore library). I received no replies, so I opted to purchase from a vendor. My real life buddy The Shroomy 1 uses Ralph, so that's how I made my decisions.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10955628 - 08/28/09 02:52 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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My first pan grow looks like its going to go tits up. should have let the casing dry faster . I know for next time suppose not all a waste.
I will keep trying untill I get some prints, my mate said to me "it seems you want the bloody prints more than the trip" But I want them both but prints only so i can give as many out as possible, i feel that i must do this
I find cubes will just grow no matter what.
Good luck mate and show us your grow when its ready.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
#10956229 - 08/28/09 04:15 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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13shrooms said: PM Ralphster44. he can read this post and get back at you. just a suggestion. it does seem to be a reoccurring issue.
I did, and I even sent an E-Mail with a link to this very post in both messages for him to come redeem himself.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10956347 - 08/28/09 04:29 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I personally love Ralph's product. I've only ever had one dud of a syringe and I don't bitch about it as everything else I have purchased from Ralph has been great. If they are cubes, and they do look to be, I'm sure Ralph will make it up to you.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
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13shrooms said: PM Ralphster44. he can read this post and get back at you. just a suggestion. it does seem to be a reoccurring issue.
I did, and I even sent an E-Mail with a link to this very post in both messages for him to come redeem himself.
Ralph's spores are for microscopic use so if you said "ahh it is growing like a cube" he is not going to respond. If you said that the spores look like cubensis under the microscope then he will help.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
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13shrooms said: PM Ralphster44. he can read this post and get back at you. just a suggestion. it does seem to be a reoccurring issue.
I did, and I even sent an E-Mail with a link to this very post in both messages for him to come redeem himself.
Ralph's spores are for microscopic use so if you said "ahh it is growing like a cube" he is not going to respond. If you said that the spores look like cubensis under the microscope then he will help.
Honestly, I haven't seen him once in the year I been here. I understand they have a disclaimer to cover there ass, but c'mon... Let put it this way: I'm sure 1% of people in ANY vendors lifetime sales have actually used there product for Microscopic Study ONLY. Without saying, guess what the other 99% of people are doing with the spores. Common sense can only prevail on an answer.
Aside from all of that, this is why I decided to put the post here instead of the Sponsor/vendor forum. Reading the sticky at the top of the page, Roadkill tells you:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7976094#7976094
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
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13shrooms said: PM Ralphster44. he can read this post and get back at you. just a suggestion. it does seem to be a reoccurring issue.
I did, and I even sent an E-Mail with a link to this very post in both messages for him to come redeem himself.
Ralph's spores are for microscopic use so if you said "ahh it is growing like a cube" he is not going to respond. If you said that the spores look like cubensis under the microscope then he will help.
Honestly, I haven't seen him once in the year I been here. I understand they have a disclaimer to cover there ass, but c'mon... Let put it this way: I'm sure 1% of people in ANY vendors lifetime sales have actually used there product for Microscopic Study ONLY. Without saying, guess what the other 99% of people are doing with the spores. Common sense can only prevail on an answer.
Aside from all of that, this is why I decided to put the post here instead of the Sponsor/vendor forum. Reading the sticky at the top of the page, Roadkill tells you:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7976094#7976094
Ralph is here often, not in the cult forum but to help and make sure people are happy with him. He gave a new strain away in the market place last month. He doesn't care what you do with his spores but he does not want to know you are growing any thing or he could go out of buisness. I was just trying to help if you want to tell him you are growing then its your fault you don't get a responce. CH
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: CH HELL]
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Really, I would just have dealt with him like I would any other vendor without a forum I could bitch on.
And when you write your stories publicly of growing spores sold for microscopy use only, it would really behoove any vendor to then ban you from sales from their company.
Pretty much the stupidest thing you could do in a forum like this is bring up a vendor of spores sold for microscopy use only and complain that you had trouble growing them. And it's a stupid that cuts two ways.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: mrEdude]
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mrEdude said: Really, I would just have dealt with him like I would any other vendor without a forum I could bitch on.
And when you write your stories publicly of growing spores sold for microscopy use only, it would really behoove any vendor to then ban you from sales from their company.
Pretty much the stupidest thing you could do in a forum like this is bring up a vendor of spores sold for microscopy use only and complain that you had trouble growing them. And it's a stupid that cuts two ways.
ALL Psilocybin Genera Spores are for, "Microscopic use only". They just say that to protect there own asses. So your calling every one on this forum stupid for cultivating ?
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Active Mushroom Spores are sold for microscopic research only!~
If you want growing advice...
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Do you really think that's possible ? I can just see Ralph in his office, Shaking his fist at the sky saying, "DAMN YOU BORIS, YOUR MAKING ME LOOK BAD"! NOT! I'm one guy, what can I do ?
People are morphing this post into something that its not. I'm not here to bash Ralphsters, but I can see he has some ravenous fans. I guess Ralph can do no wrong, even when I present proof, and dig up other posts of people with problems just like mine. IMO, its not so much the mistake of the matter, its more-so the unprofessional approach to being a sponsored vendor. This was copy and pasted from a highly respected individual who's name I can't say, through a PM:
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What appears to be the problem is ralphster is buying prints from random growers and he has to trust these sources. He gets ripped off quite a bit as shown by his fake PE fiasco (search the forums). With most cubes no one seems to notice, although many of his strains are obviously wrong such as his PF redspore (with purple spores) and his PF classic without the bulbous base. He isn't all that knowledgeable and just sells what he is sold with no way of confirming species or strain.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: mrEdude]
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at least read the first post if your going to criticize the OP, he neva did any of that but simply asked if experienced pan growers could chime in with what they thought. calm down
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I guess in a few days we'll see exactly what it produces, but anyone that's experienced with growing Pans I would love a reply from you. I would like to know what you think I'm working with here. It kinda angers me, but I'm torn because I've always loved Ralphster's, and this is the first and only bad review I can say I have with them. If indeed this is a Cube species, I wont be able to print em, trade em, give em away, nothing... Because I'm not gunna put a mystery cube out in circulation. ...Anyways, any-ones thoughts are welcome;
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
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Do you really think that's possible ? I can just see Ralph in his office, Shaking his fist at the sky saying, "DAMN YOU BORIS, YOUR MAKING ME LOOK BAD"! NOT! I'm one guy, what can I do ?
People are morphing this post into something that its not. I'm not here to bash Ralphsters
Yeap you are only one person, so if you say you are growing from his spores he is going to ignore you.
You are the only person turning this thread into something it's not. I already gave my opinion but until it fruits you can't be sure. So once again be quiet. Is that less hostile. CH
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: CH HELL]
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Do you really think that's possible ? I can just see Ralph in his office, Shaking his fist at the sky saying, "DAMN YOU BORIS, YOUR MAKING ME LOOK BAD"! NOT! I'm one guy, what can I do ?
People are morphing this post into something that its not. I'm not here to bash Ralphsters
Yeap you are only one person, so if you say you are growing from his spores he is going to ignore you.
You are the only person turning this thread into something it's not. I already gave my opinion but until it fruits you can't be sure. So once again be quiet. Is that less hostile. CH
LMAO Again your a funny guy CH.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
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I am putting my neck out here... but, at this point, this REALLY needs to be discussed.
I have seen a lot of Ralph threads like this recently, and IMO, after looking at COUNTLESS 'strain' threads (and trust me, I have looked at countless 'strain' threads), this is indeed cause for concern.
Let me state this as simply as I can: Ralph has very little control over the spores he sells. He runs his company just like a free spore ring, except he charges people for his spores.
Ralph sells spores that independent growers (like you) send him.
Let me say that again.
Ralph sells spores that independent growers send him. If his growers say the spores he has been sent are pan cyans, he sells them as pan cyans.
Don't believe me?
RALPH ADVERTISES FOR NEW GROWERS ON HIS WEBSITE ALL THE TIME.
Ralph seemingly trusts that the spores he is given are what he is told THEY ARE. And lately, there have been countless mistakes... particularly with his exotics.
I imagine his cubes could be unreliable too... but cubes are cubes... so how the hell would anybody know for sure?
I don't know if Ralph barters with his growers or if he pays them for their work... but I am 99.99% certain he does not grow his own prints... nor does he even seem to have a microscope. Which simply means, Ralph has little to no quality control. If his growers fuck up, Ralph has no way of knowing.
Trust me, I would not have said all this if it were not becoming a pretty fucking obvious problem...
I know, we are all supposed to kiss the asses of all our sacred Shroomery vendors... especially guys like Ralph (He once SAVED The Shroomery! Honest.) but this is getting old. And I can no longer trust Ralph to sell the spores he says he is selling. I trust him to sell viable spores... but I no longer trust the integrity of his spore selection.
If you want quality control, Ralph is not your vendor. If you want cheap, viable spores, Ralph is your guy.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Rose]
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: chronosync]
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wow. so this calls a lot into question.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: chronosync]
#10960006 - 08/29/09 06:34 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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How can he be a vendor, acclaimed by people who run this site when he does not even have a microscope.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: badman]
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badman said: How about asking shroomery users for prints and shit. Iv only every bought one spore syringe in my life.
dude your a friggin mooch.........
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Perhaps I will skip all the hassling posts / E-mails and go straight to Sporeworks
man i dunno abou them, but i know ralphsters is just like others have said... a happy hippy up in canada that is nice and trusts lots of people. mistakes are bound to happen. it could be worse. i ordered from sporebanks. got the "order two get two for free" deal, and they fucked me. hard. four syringes... nothing. i sent them email after email explaining i'd been a home study mycologist for years and i knew they send me dead spores or black sand in water, and to rectify it.
no response. so i look into a lawsuit, and low and behold! they're in jamaica! and can do whatever the fuck they want. i'm not supposed to be "growing" these spores anyway right? assraped over the web... ouch.
be careful, nobodies perfect. but sporeworks seems to be the most legit... however, like i said, ralphsters at least honest even if he makes an honest mistake. at least he'll respond to your emails.
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dude your a friggin mooch.........
Good one, have ever heard of trading or the market place?
Didn't think so.
I've given out way more prints than I've recieved, not that I care what you say.
If you don't ask you don't get.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: badman]
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dude your a friggin mooch.........
Good one, have ever heard of trading or the market place?
Didn't think so.
I've given out way more prints than I've recieved, not that I care what you say.
If you don't ask you don't get.
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dude your a friggin mooch.........
Good one, have ever heard of trading or the market place?
Didn't think so.
I've given out way more prints than I've recieved, not that I care what you say.
If you don't ask you don't get.
fight fight fight!
Why are you getting so arrogant... And defensive... I dont need a rebuddle when your making yourself seem negative....But thanks for justifying yourself....
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Sorry it the last post was directed to badman- i quoted wrong-
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if ralph is in canada then why on earth would he pm me back ab0ut my bad syringe and tell me to email the canada location, then when I email it, I get no response back. I have yet to have a spore syringe grow 10/10 mold colonies excluding that one, now I just make my own.
In fact I just made 11 last night from prints, so looks like I'm gunna knock up the remaining jars with what's left of my brf, then whatever is leftover I'll buy a big bag of rye berries and do them with that. Since temps are dropping I'm thinking I can scale things up. I'm tired of doing everything at 80-90F, 75F would be a nice break.
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it's okay.
but....
internet fights are like internets fucks...
it's all exciting til nobody wins, and yer like, "wtf?"
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if ralph is in canada then why on earth would he pm me back ab0ut my bad syringe and tell me to email the canada location
my bad.
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I just found uSps box from ralphsters 5 years ago and i found 5 syringes unused!!! Lmao i thought i threw them away with all my setup... Now that im back if they all work im gonna be RALHSTERS P.R. Lol jk But ill def let keep yall updated..
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Arrogant, no, sarcastic yes. You obviously have heard of the market place but in six years have failed to trade. I not going to speculate but one does seem to wonder. By your rationale you are branding traders as mooches for not buying prints from vendors. You obviously support the vendors, good for you.
As I suspected my microscope comment hurt your feeling as you are a Ralph loyalist.
For the record you are trying to make me look negative, I'm merely stating facts, ones you can not handle.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: badman]
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Arrogant, no, sarcastic yes. You obviously have heard of the market place but in six years have failed to trade. I not going to speculate but one does seem to wonder. By your rationale you are branding traders as mooches for not buying prints from vendors. You obviously support the vendors, good for you.
As I suspected my microscope comment hurt your feeling as you are a Ralph loyalist.
For the record you are trying to make me look negative, I'm merely stating facts, ones you can not handle.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: badman]
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Arrogant, no, sarcastic yes. You obviously have heard of the market place but in six years have failed to trade. I not going to speculate but one does seem to wonder. By your rationale you are branding traders as mooches for not buying prints from vendors. You obviously support the vendors, good for you.
As I suspected my microscope comment hurt your feeling as you are a Ralph loyalist.
For the record you are trying to make me look negative, I'm merely stating facts, ones you can not handle.
Actually he has no need for the marketplace because he belongs to a family and we take care of each other, so we make sure all of your family members have prints when they need them, and they do likewise. It's nice to have friends who take care of each other. Saves us all alot of money too.
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The shame is Ralph LOVES pans. They are his favorite.
I think he may have to find a new pan supplier, and get rid of his current stock, before he can begin to fix his reliability problem.
I am pretty sure he never intended for this to happen.
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Arrogant, no, sarcastic yes. You obviously have heard of the market place but in six years have failed to trade. I not going to speculate but one does seem to wonder. By your rationale you are branding traders as mooches for not buying prints from vendors. You obviously support the vendors, good for you.
As I suspected my microscope comment hurt your feeling as you are a Ralph loyalist.
For the record you are trying to make me look negative, I'm merely stating facts, ones you can not handle.
Actually he has no need for the marketplace because he belongs to a family and we take care of each other, so we make sure all of your family members have prints when they need them, and they do likewise. It's nice to have friends who take care of each other. Saves us all alot of money too.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
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Why use this forum to talk about ralph when he is more than willing to respond to you directly? Nothing anyone can say here will 100% tell you what you are growing- or what he gave you.
If you had an error in your order, Ralph, without even blinking would fix it asap.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Civ]
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Civ said: Why use this forum to talk about ralph when he is more than willing to respond to you directly? Nothing anyone can say here will 100% tell you what you are growing- or what he gave you.
If you had an error in your order, Ralph, without even blinking would fix it asap.
he did that and the replacement is the issue.
if people are getting cube spores instead of pans their not wanting a replacement of the same mistake, IF thats is what is happening.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Rose]
#10961902 - 08/29/09 03:27 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cervantes said: I am putting my neck out here... but, at this point, this REALLY needs to be discussed.
I have seen a lot of Ralph threads like this recently, and IMO, after looking at COUNTLESS 'strain' threads (and trust me, I have looked at countless 'strain' threads), this is indeed cause for concern.
Let me state this as simply as I can: Ralph has very little control over the spores he sells. He runs his company just like a free spore ring, except he charges people for his spores.
Ralph sells spores that independent growers (like you) send him.
Let me say that again.
Ralph sells spores that independent growers send him. If his growers say the spores he has been sent are pan cyans, he sells them as pan cyans.
Don't believe me?
RALPH ADVERTISES FOR NEW GROWERS ON HIS WEBSITE ALL THE TIME.
Ralph seemingly trusts that the spores he is given are what he is told THEY ARE. And lately, there have been countless mistakes... particularly with his exotics.
I imagine his cubes could be unreliable too... but cubes are cubes... so how the hell would anybody know for sure?
I don't know if Ralph barters with his growers or if he pays them for their work... but I am 99.99% certain he does not grow his own prints... nor does he even seem to have a microscope. Which simply means, Ralph has little to no quality control. If his growers fuck up, Ralph has no way of knowing.
Trust me, I would not have said all this if it were not becoming a pretty fucking obvious problem...
I know, we are all supposed to kiss the asses of all our sacred Shroomery vendors... especially guys like Ralph (He once SAVED The Shroomery! Honest.) but this is getting old. And I can no longer trust Ralph to sell the spores he says he is selling. I trust him to sell viable spores... but I no longer trust the integrity of his spore selection.
If you want quality control, Ralph is not your vendor. If you want cheap, viable spores, Ralph is your guy.
Cervantes out.
I really respect you allot for, "sticking your neck out there".
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
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I really hope Ralph can fix this problem. Not just yours, but the general quality of all his exotics.
I like Ralph. Good guy. Passionate. A true Shroomerite.
Your problem however, is becoming quite common.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Rose]
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Its funny how Ralph hasn't dropped by here to say anything, or answer my e-mail even after I PMed/e-mailed him about it with a link to this post.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
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I still wana see what pops up from that to b 4 sure.
it would be a shame to have such a variety of cube strains from ralphs to not even know if their lables are correct, let alone exotics like pans that you pay more for.
I just dont like the paper/electronic trail when using sporeworks (registering w/billing addy and such), thats why Ralphs has gotten all my business so far. they both are equal distances from me.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
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Boris said: Its funny how Ralph hasn't dropped by here to say anything, or answer my e-mail even after I PMed/e-mailed him about it with a link to this post.
It's not really funny at all, considering you're not supposed to try to grow with his spores... This thread is full of people talking about growing with his spores, which is a no-no.
Ralph has legal obligations that I'm sure keep him from responding to this thread.
P.S. I just realized that you're the OP... you do understand that you've posted pics of a grow attempt with spores that you say came from Ralph, right? IMO he'd be stupid to respond to you at all, as this is clearly against the rules of every sponsor out there.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Lostkeys]
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P.S. I just realized that you're the OP... you do understand that you've posted pics of a grow attempt with spores that you say came from Ralph, right? IMO he'd be stupid to respond to you at all, as this is clearly against the rules of every sponsor out there.
he could still PM or E-mail the OP about said subject with out anyones knowledge of doing so. I think hes waiting to see how the fruits develop.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
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P.S. I just realized that you're the OP... you do understand that you've posted pics of a grow attempt with spores that you say came from Ralph, right? IMO he'd be stupid to respond to you at all, as this is clearly against the rules of every sponsor out there.
he could still PM or E-mail the OP about said subject with out anyones knowledge of doing so. I think hes waiting to see how the fruits develop.
That's just not how things are done... it's bad for business, that's why all sponsor sites have disclaimers stating "Spores for microscopy only"
Think about it, Ralph has no idea who this person is or who he could possibly be working for... would YOU take the risk?
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Lostkeys]
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Boris said: Its funny how Ralph hasn't dropped by here to say anything, or answer my e-mail even after I PMed/e-mailed him about it with a link to this post.
It's not really funny at all, considering you're not supposed to try to grow with his spores... This thread is full of people talking about growing with his spores, which is a no-no.
Ralph has legal obligations that I'm sure keep him from responding to this thread.
P.S. I just realized that you're the OP... you do understand that you've posted pics of a grow attempt with spores that you say came from Ralph, right? IMO he'd be stupid to respond to you at all, as this is clearly against the rules of every sponsor out there.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7976094#7976094
From the, "Sponsor/Vendor" forum:
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Active Mushroom Spores are sold for microscopic research only!~
If you want growing advice...
for the protection of our Vendors/Sponsors please discuss this in the Mushroom Cultivation forum.
If you have an issue with contamination and you wanna discuss the growing process that you used...
for the protection of our Vendors/Sponsors please discuss this in the Mushroom Cultivation forum or the Contamination forum.
If you have a bad syringe or some kind of contaminated substrate that you feel was one of the Vendors/Sponsors fault...
please just simply state that you recieved a contaminated item...
and don't go into any detail of growing...at all.
Any complaint that goes into details on growing illegal items will be locked...
and you will be informed by me or another Moderator why it was locked.
thank you!~
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Apparently its fair game to talk about it in the cultivation forums ? I've seen posts with Ralph saying he loves this hobby, and saying pans are his favorite, but only in the cult forums...
People post grows boasting how much they love there products from Ralph, ect... if it was a , "no-no" then this would have been a long time ago.
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You can't actually be that paranoid can you ?
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Rose]
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all places that sell spores for microscopy research don't grow the fruit the spores come from. That is unless they have a federal permit for manufacturing schedule 1 drugs.
plus this thread has nothing really to do with cultivation, it sounds like a sponsor problem.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
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All I'm saying is that just because you've posted this in the cultivation forum doesn't mean he's any more able to respond to you here than in the sponsor forum.
After all, he has a business and livelihood to think about.
Next time just say "hey Ralph, I looked at these spores under a microscope and they don't appear to be the species I ordered". I guarantee he'll respond and make things right with ya.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Lostkeys]
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it was obviously posted in Cultivation forum to get more attention... negative propaganda gets more views here..
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Lostkeys]
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"hey Ralph, I looked at these spores under a microscope and they don't appear to be the species I ordered".
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"We have to create culture, don't watch TV, don't read magazines, don't even listen to NPR. Create your own roadshow. The nexus of space and time where you are now is the most immediate sector of your universe, and if you're worrying about Michael Jackson or Bill Clinton or somebody else, then you are disempowered, you're giving it all away to icons, icons which are maintained by an electronic media so that you want to dress like X or have lips like Y. This is shit-brained, this kind of thinking. That is all cultural diversion, and what is real is you and your friends and your associations, your highs, your orgasms, your hopes, your plans, your fears. And we are told 'no', we're unimportant, we're peripheral. 'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.' And then you're a player, you don't want to even play in that game. You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world."
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
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yeah thats like goin into a headshop and asking which pipe is best to smoke bud with... don't think they'll be giving you an answer...
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Re: Is Ralph Slack in' ? [Re: Boris]
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You can't actually be that paranoid can you ?
man, shit happens and if that shit did ever happen, on either end, Id like to minimize any felonious fucked laws that might get pinned/linked 2 me. just in case.
it took me a few months just to sign-up to be a member on shroomery let alone post pics or trade with others. dont trust internet technology.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Lostkeys]
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All I'm saying is that just because you've posted this in the cultivation forum doesn't mean he's any more able to respond to you here than in the sponsor forum.
After all, he has a business and livelihood to think about.
Next time just say "hey Ralph, I looked at these spores under a microscope and they don't appear to be the species I ordered". I guarantee he'll respond and make things right with ya.
QFT!~
Ralph would be foolish to respond to this thread... as would any other Vendor, if it was directed to them.
My post in the Vendor/Sponsor forum is basically telling you not to talk about your grows with them. From a legality point they don't want to hear about your Cultivation or Cultivation problems. Including inoculations, LC's, agar work...etc. etc.
If you need help with your grows ask for help here in the Mush Cult forum.
If you have a contaminated syringe, or a syringe with a species other than what you ordered... Just tell them you found a problem under your microscope and that you would like a replacement. It's that easy.
As far as Substrate... you could be growing edibles. So don't mention Exotic(Active) Species of mushrooms when talking about your substrate problems in the Vendor/Sponsor forum.
Use common sense.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Roadkill]
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Boris....I would just delete this thread or have it locked....then try the "code talk" in a PM after you get some fruits so your sure about having wrong spores. I guess you and you only are not allowed to do what others do everyday here.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
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I guess you and you only are not allowed to do what others do everyday here.
which is?
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Roadkill]
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complain about a vendor...
the OP didnt start the thread out like this. he asked what other pan growers thought and the posters that failed to read the first post assumed he was bashing and started all the ralphster talk.
Im only stating this due to the only place Ive used is ralphters and would like to see if his product is what it is or if I should even be concerned. so Ive been watchin this thread to see if anything is amiss.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
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the OP didnt start the thread out like this...
umm, the title of the thread is incriminating...
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
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the OP didnt start the thread out like this...
umm, the title of the thread is incriminating...
as are most of your posts. pan grow post
people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.
if your helping fine, if your a mod fine, other than that you dont have to read this thread.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
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the OP didnt start the thread out like this...
umm, the title of the thread is incriminating...
as are most of your posts. pan grow post
people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.
if your helping fine, if your a mod fine, other than that you dont have to read this thread.
What the fuck is your point inspector gadget? want my SS# too so you can run a background check on me to make your invalid point more valid?
switching the issue personal rather than to the point shows your ignorance.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
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I don't feel badly for kicking open the discussion that way as it struck me at the time, and am happy to return and see the matter well-discussed, especially Roadkill's opinion on the subject.
You check out someplace like Erowid, and they pretty much forbid discussion of vendors altogether. But then they don't have a real-time discussion board and can edit at their leisure. This is a valuable space for hobbyists and professionals alike to share their knowledge and insight, and as in any aspect of life, yes, a little common sense can go a long way.
Ralphsters are consummate professionals and will always work hard to satisfy you as a customer, even if you happen to be twice-unlucky for reasons beyond their control.
Bless you all supercosmidelically, you rock or you wouldn't be here!
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: mrEdude]
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
#10968211 - 08/30/09 06:32 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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cyb3rtr0n said: all places that sell spores for microscopy research don't grow the fruit the spores come from. That is unless they have a federal permit for manufacturing schedule 1 drugs.
Incorrect.
SOME sponsors do their OWN growing in a country where it is LEGAL to grow. 
Boris explained why he has to discuss this particular problem in here, rather than in the sponsor's forum, and his lack of a reply adds to his frustration... although we ALL understand why Ralph would not reply to this thread.
Boris just wanted to know if his myc looks right.
It does not.
He may still get a great flush of pans... but I seriously doubt it.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Rose]
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sometimes I forget how widespread this audience is.. I should have clarified united states spore harvesters. I just assumed people would know the legality.. 
I remember reading a while ago about a place in Florida that use to give prints inside a magazine with a subscription/or membership to their association. They were licensed by the Govt. for research on the class 1 drug. But I don't think they do it anymore
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
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Some American sponsors...American Shroomery sponsors cross international borders too. Spores are legal in America... growing is not... but if they grow in another country and send the spores here, everything is legal.
To my knowledge, this is not the case with Ralph. He recruits independent sources by regularly asking for help on his website. This way of working is fine by me... except for the lack of quality control.
I suspect one of his growers is not keeping very good track of their own work... and Ralph trusts his growers. Ralph's a trusting guy.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Rose]
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
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cyb3rtr0n said: sometimes I forget how widespread this audience is.
Sometimes I do too.
I made fun of Gomp once, because of his grammar, before somebody reminded me he was from Norway.
D'oh!
My bad.
He STILL has me on ignore. I don't blame him. He has a right to be pissed at me.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
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Ok this is where I put in. I have always been a supporter of Ralphs. I started this hobby with his product. I have had zero problems with his product until just recently on my last order. First I didn't get my SOTM Contacted the man,We arranged to have my next order supplied with the delinquent spores. No problem all is grovey But wait there's more. Now time for the pics of what I was under the impression was suppose to be PE.


 Imagine how pissed off I was when I discovered they were nothing even close to being what they were suppose to be. 1. Look's nothing like PE 2. Extremely hollow stems 3. Drop spores like a mothafu**er 4. No clue other then there cub's as to what they are 5. I now have hundreds of these bastards
Now to my Pan Viet syringe
 Now with this im still waiting to see what comes of it. As it stands right now they just started to pin so in a couple of days I will be able to fill you in on what strain they are. As to the growth of it,It blew up in LC fastest stuff I have ever seen. Down side was it was very thick,Not whispy took 9 days to colonize 7 jars of grain. you can see what it looks like by the pic. As you can see the sh*t looks cuby to me, But hey what do I know I never grew Pans before.
This is where I make my statement to everyone that says "Just contact the man he will right his wrong" Why as intelligent people such as are selves, want to get replacements if we dont know what there going to be. I mean yes he will send use new syringes but if we can't count on them to be what they are suppose to be,Then why would we want to take are time and energy to grow them out OK OK OK look at them threw the micro to later find out that there not what there suppose to be.
As it stands right now,Until Ralph makes a statement admitting there was a mix up and also his plan to resolve it,I will be taking my HARD earned money to another sponsor. You may not belive me but it hurts to say that, You can check my past threads I have always supported Ralph its just a shame hes let it get this far 
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: curbstop]
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wow dude I can see where your coming from but I'm also going to assume this is your first few times being screwed over, it's happened to me numerious times from many different vendors so don't think just because you go buying from some other vendor it's never going to happen again...
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The mistakes are not the point...
Rather, the point is how the mistakes are corrected.
If your vendor fucks up, and makes you make another purchase before correcting their mistakes... there is a problem.
If your vendor refuses to respond to your concerns, there is a problem.
If there is a pattern... where many people are having the SAME problems and the same lack of communication as you are experiencing, there is a problem.
Ralph has been a quality vendor for a long time and he deserves time to make things right, but this recently has become a pattern. This didn't used to be a problem... but recently it has happened again and again.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
#10968936 - 08/30/09 08:10 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Please do not post grows and tell where youve got your spores from.
Im surprised this hasent been locked yet.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Rose]
#10968991 - 08/30/09 08:16 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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If your vendor fucks up, and makes you make another purchase before correcting their mistakes... there is a problem.
If this is directed from my statement. I would like to point out that I told the man to do it that way, Figured id save him a few bones on shipping. Like Cervantes said this has been to much too often.
The issues is upon us there needs to be a correction, This is far from a one or two person mix up.
If this had not been made public, Chances are I would have marked it up to sh*t happens and moved on, As it stands tho I now see this is too widespread to just be ignored.
This is an issue that needs to be addressed immediately, Before it gets out of hand.
As for other vendors doing it, I doubt seriously it is of this degree, Other wise we would be reading about that instead of what we are.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: curbstop]
#10969315 - 08/30/09 08:58 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is an issue that needs to be addressed immediately, Before it gets out of hand.
Sounds like it already has, to be honest.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: sparkplug]
#10969400 - 08/30/09 09:14 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think we should all just chill. Ralph has done us all 100% perfect before. Give him time he will make it all right again. Atleast I hope.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: sparkplug]
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Some American sponsors...American Shroomery sponsors cross international borders too. Spores are legal in America... growing is not... but if they grow in another country and send the spores here, everything is legal.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
#10969430 - 08/30/09 09:20 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Am I wrong here but it is legal to grow in Canada and Ralph has a Canadian office?
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: mango man]
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mango man said: Am I wrong here but it is legal to grow in Canada and Ralph has a Canadian office?
1 in usa and 1 in Canada
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
#10969461 - 08/30/09 09:24 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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if you neve worked with pans, how can you say their looking healthy ?
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: mango man]
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mango man said: Am I wrong here but it is legal to grow in Canada and Ralph has a Canadian office?
It is not legal to grow in Canada.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: mango man]
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mango man said: I think we should all just chill. Ralph has done us all 100% perfect before. Give him time he will make it all right again. Atleast I hope.
I don't believe anybody with a valid complaint in this thread needs to chill. Nobody with a complaint has flamed anybody else.
However, there HAS been name calling and taunting from people who support Ralph and who have never been done wrong by him.
Defending Ralph is one thing... flaming a fellow Shroomerite is another thing entirely. Not that YOU PERSONALLY have flamed anyone. 
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mango man said: Am I wrong here but it is legal to grow in Canada and Ralph has a Canadian office?
It is not legal to grow in Canoodia. Unless the laws have recently changed.
That said, Canooks don't penalize shroomers like Americans do.
But you ARE correct, Ralph does have a Canadian office.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Rose]
#10969522 - 08/30/09 09:33 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you for clearing that up for me.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Rose]
#10969549 - 08/30/09 09:37 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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mango man said: I think we should all just chill. Ralph has done us all 100% perfect before. Give him time he will make it all right again. Atleast I hope.
I don't believe anybody with a valid complaint in this thread needs to chill. Nobody with a complaint has flamed anybody else.
However, there HAS been name calling and taunting from people who support Ralph and who have never been done wrong by him.
Defending Ralph is one thing... flaming a fellow Shroomerite is another thing entirely. Not that YOU PERSONALLY have flamed anyone. 
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mango man said: Am I wrong here but it is legal to grow in Canada and Ralph has a Canadian office?
It is not legal to grow in Canoodia. Unless the laws have recently changed.
That said, Canooks don't penalize shroomers like Americans do.
But you ARE correct, Ralph does have a Canadian office.
Thank you again. I would never flame or name call here or anywhere. I don't need that bad karma. I just feel as if some are focusing on the bad, let's think of how many times Ralph has come through for us all. Thank you for standing up for me there Cervantes
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: mango man]
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No prob MM.
I like Ralph too.
However, I do have a feeling that these complaints are valid. I have no proof... just a gut feeling.
I have seen many a good vendor go South since I became a member here... I hope Ralph doesn't become another statistic.
I trust he will make things right.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10971886 - 08/31/09 10:29 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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We apologise. Its our fault. Somehow cubensis got in with that pan strain.
Sorry for your lost time and effort.
The problem is now fixed.
Please email me so I can take care of you.
Again, we apologise
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ralphster44 said: We apologise. Its our fault. Somehow cubensis got in with that pan strain.
Sorry for your lost time and effort.
The problem is now fixed.
Please email me so I can take care of you.
Again, we apologise
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
#10972368 - 08/31/09 12:24 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its ok Ralph, mistakes happen. No ones perfect and from your record this hasnt happen nearly enough for anyone(in my opinion) to claim your slacking. Esp considering how many clients you always have kept happy. Your still ok in my books
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Thank you Ralph, for taking the high road. All vendors make mistakes, but not everybody will admit them. It is hard to admit mistakes.
It is also hard for people like Boris to come out of the woodwork and to accuse a trusted vendor like yourself of making a mistake. He had to risk flames and ratings bombs in order to plead his case.
It is unfortunate that this discussion had to take place in the Cultivation Forum, but Boris did need confirmation that his myc was not pan myc... and he can not do that in the sponsor's forum.
Boris is not the only person who has recently encountered a problem with your pans. I trust you will make things right for everybody, and put this snafu behind you.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Rose]
#10972723 - 08/31/09 01:51 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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The difference between serving your customers, and serving your wallet! A+ ralph!
I would have ordered from ralph if some sort of instant payment was possible, the good word is everywhere about ralph.
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Sorry for your lost time and effort.
The problem is now fixed.
Please email me so I can take care of you.
Again, we apologise
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: k4ge]
#10975430 - 08/31/09 08:26 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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not for me, and I'm at the stage of considering obtaining additional genetics to play with. Guess us canadians don't count, because after having got no reply from the canadian counterpart I pm'ed ralph and got no reply, and yet I sit here having successfully grown over a kilo in a single flush with negligeable contamn issues for the sort of risks that I am taking with substrates. My BRF always grows, and it almost never contamns. I can explain where the contamns come from -- I had a bad lc once which is what I get for using lc taken from a jar that still has a golden tinge to it. Between that and ralph's syringe, I've lost maybe 2 jars out of the 70 remaining jars.
Every single time I get a contamn from a viable inoculation, myc grows fine and then the contamn rears it's ugly head days later. the first batch of 10/10 bad jars with no myc growth, and the 2nd batch of 2 or however many I did with the remaining couple of cc's of innoculant with many, many different colors of mold in it, speaks for itself, because I've never gotten results that horrible since then, and I haven't been doing much of anything different either.
I wish I could have a good relationship with Ralph, seems better than sporeworks from what I hear, and I know I took too long to initiate my second test because I was planning a move, but my strict sense of consumerism disallows me to ever buy anything again from him till there's a remedy, I don't care what the policy is, if that never happens, so be it I'll expand my genetics pool by trading and by perhaps considering another sponsor. Some people win, some people lose. I'm guessing that wasn't your first time buying from him so I'm guessing that you were entitled to a little more respect, lucky you.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: xtofury]
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: chronosync]
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let me clarify, I used 8 cc's on ten jars, and saved 2 cc's, then had to move, so didn't get around to using the remaining 2 cc's later, after I had purchased another syringe from a headshop and got 100% success with it. Then I tried the remaining 2 cc's, grew mold, then with the success I had before with the headshop batch, I made 2 more syringes and had 100% success with those. I now have 11 more syringes and I'm makin probably 20 more, think maybe I'm entitled to a replacement SA syringe for having done the same damn thing 34 times with my own and other syringes (nevermind the fact that those 31 are going to be diluted and spread across 2-3 syringes each)and even if I make 1 bad one, I think it'd be pretty safe to say that the results speak for itself.
Of course I won't know this for a long time, because I think I'll only need 3-5 of these syringes for my next batch of spawn. I'm just gunna toss my lc's and store spore syringes, the 50 lc syringe's were made from multispore anyways so what's the bother, if they were made with agar from sector isolate maybe they'd have more value, but what's the bother really, I don't have to worry about being able to produce more mycellium anymore. Honestly what sorta results do I have to produce in order to establish that it was the fuckin syringe.....It don't matter if that was my first time growing or not, nothing has really changed since then. There is a chance that I could have fucked it up, but the fact that it didn't grow a shred of mycellium *REALLY* makes me think otherwise because I always at least get that from multispore syringes.
0% success and 0% myc growth=shit, I can grow myc from a syringe even without a glovebox (of course it contamns but myc still grows for a bit), so wtf? How could I possibly blame anything else, and how could I not feel burned, many, many months later, it still doesn't matter but it takes my dollars elsewhere.
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didn't get a chance to read the whole thread, but i did read most. That does look like cube myc, but I will say in Ralph's defense that i've ordered from him, almost monthy for years... i've had 1 or 2 mishaps, mainly contam issues where the lid came off the syg during shipping or something. but over the years i've ordered a lot, and for the most part no problems. just wanted that to be said. just my $0.02
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: xtofury]
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xtofury said: not for me, and I'm at the stage of considering obtaining additional genetics to play with. Guess us canadians don't count, because after having got no reply from the canadian counterpart I pm'ed ralph and got no reply, and yet I sit here having successfully grown over a kilo in a single flush with negligeable contamn issues for the sort of risks that I am taking with substrates. My BRF always grows, and it almost never contamns. I can explain where the contamns come from -- I had a bad lc once which is what I get for using lc taken from a jar that still has a golden tinge to it. Between that and ralph's syringe, I've lost maybe 2 jars out of the 70 remaining jars.
Every single time I get a contamn from a viable inoculation, myc grows fine and then the contamn rears it's ugly head days later. the first batch of 10/10 bad jars with no myc growth, and the 2nd batch of 2 or however many I did with the remaining couple of cc's of innoculant with many, many different colors of mold in it, speaks for itself, because I've never gotten results that horrible since then, and I haven't been doing much of anything different either.
I wish I could have a good relationship with Ralph, seems better than sporeworks from what I hear, and I know I took too long to initiate my second test because I was planning a move, but my strict sense of consumerism disallows me to ever buy anything again from him till there's a remedy, I don't care what the policy is, if that never happens, so be it I'll expand my genetics pool by trading and by perhaps considering another sponsor. Some people win, some people lose. I'm guessing that wasn't your first time buying from him so I'm guessing that you were entitled to a little more respect, lucky you.
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xtofury said: let me clarify, I used 8 cc's on ten jars, and saved 2 cc's, then had to move, so didn't get around to using the remaining 2 cc's later, after I had purchased another syringe from a headshop and got 100% success with it. Then I tried the remaining 2 cc's, grew mold, then with the success I had before with the headshop batch, I made 2 more syringes and had 100% success with those. I now have 11 more syringes and I'm makin probably 20 more, think maybe I'm entitled to a replacement SA syringe for having done the same damn thing 34 times with my own and other syringes (nevermind the fact that those 31 are going to be diluted and spread across 2-3 syringes each)and even if I make 1 bad one, I think it'd be pretty safe to say that the results speak for itself.
Of course I won't know this for a long time, because I think I'll only need 3-5 of these syringes for my next batch of spawn. I'm just gunna toss my lc's and store spore syringes, the 50 lc syringe's were made from multispore anyways so what's the bother, if they were made with agar from sector isolate maybe they'd have more value, but what's the bother really, I don't have to worry about being able to produce more mycellium anymore. Honestly what sorta results do I have to produce in order to establish that it was the fuckin syringe.....It don't matter if that was my first time growing or not, nothing has really changed since then. There is a chance that I could have fucked it up, but the fact that it didn't grow a shred of mycellium *REALLY* makes me think otherwise because I always at least get that from multispore syringes.
0% success and 0% myc growth=shit, I can grow myc from a syringe even without a glovebox (of course it contamns but myc still grows for a bit), so wtf? How could I possibly blame anything else, and how could I not feel burned, many, many months later, it still doesn't matter but it takes my dollars elsewhere.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: prismism]
#10978724 - 09/01/09 10:57 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I knew it would all work out.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: xtofury]
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xtofury said: let me clarify, I used 8 cc's on ten jars, and saved 2 cc's, then had to move, so didn't get around to using the remaining 2 cc's later, after I had purchased another syringe from a headshop and got 100% success with it. Then I tried the remaining 2 cc's, grew mold, then with the success I had before with the headshop batch, I made 2 more syringes and had 100% success with those. I now have 11 more syringes and I'm makin probably 20 more, think maybe I'm entitled to a replacement SA syringe for having done the same damn thing 34 times with my own and other syringes (nevermind the fact that those 31 are going to be diluted and spread across 2-3 syringes each)and even if I make 1 bad one, I think it'd be pretty safe to say that the results speak for itself.
Of course I won't know this for a long time, because I think I'll only need 3-5 of these syringes for my next batch of spawn. I'm just gunna toss my lc's and store spore syringes, the 50 lc syringe's were made from multispore anyways so what's the bother, if they were made with agar from sector isolate maybe they'd have more value, but what's the bother really, I don't have to worry about being able to produce more mycellium anymore. Honestly what sorta results do I have to produce in order to establish that it was the fuckin syringe.....It don't matter if that was my first time growing or not, nothing has really changed since then. There is a chance that I could have fucked it up, but the fact that it didn't grow a shred of mycellium *REALLY* makes me think otherwise because I always at least get that from multispore syringes.
0% success and 0% myc growth=shit, I can grow myc from a syringe even without a glovebox (of course it contamns but myc still grows for a bit), so wtf? How could I possibly blame anything else, and how could I not feel burned, many, many months later, it still doesn't matter but it takes my dollars elsewhere.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
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well shit can happen with just about any syringe, but I found the one from mega-u-grow affiliate (that's what the shop sold) to be more professional looking. When I got the one from ralph's, there was a blue blob, so there had to be something in there, and it ought to have grown something but it didn't, not even so much as one whisp of mycellium.
PF tek was done to a tee in a way that many others get results. Temps were a little high but still within extra range. Saturation was great as I've since then learned what is acceptable and what is just pushing it, the biggest concern for the first 8 cc's I had used was that I mixed things in the wrong order. Syringe did not look contaminated but the spore blob when I got it looked to be a funny color, it indeed was purple-ish but not as purple as I've come to recognize from a viable syringe, it was more like the blue on that F icon, 3 from the left on top of this reply box than purple. It was a sizeable blob the syringe had to be shaken well.
As for the other syringe I bought, the good one, there were no blobs, and it looked like water with a faint purplish tinge to it. When I make syringes, they always look like this. I'd written the ralph syringe quickly off as having already germinated, but that color, which I remember distinctly, makes me leery about it being a good viable syringe, and the results definitely speak for themselves. I used alcohol quite liberally with sterilization as I always do. I flame sterilized as I always do. I didn't have a glove box, but I did have a box tilted up a bit and worked underneath it and did things by feel which in my opinion should have worked just fine since I could taste nothing but lysol. I flamed the needle before putting the cap back on, put it in a ziplock bag, and stored it in the fridge. A few months later it produced the same results with 2-4 jars (I didn't start making exact notes until later). The 2nd go around I had a glove box. After flame sterilization I squirt a little out in order to make a nice and clean needle tip, and flame again (so as to ensure nothing gets sucked into the needle, and I've always done this). From MS syringe I get 100% results, excluding ralph's SA syringe that I got. From ralph's, on those two seperate occasions, I got 0% and handful of colors of mold contamn. Mold's which I haven't ever seen since. I haven't seen the bright red stuff, nor the black stuff, nor the yellow stuff, nor the blue stuff, nor the orange stuff, nor the purple stuff ever since using ralphs syringe. On both occasions, when I had used the 8cc's and 2cc's, I saw this. WTF. Every time I've contamned otherwise, there was myc growth and it got either green, pink or white. I've identified two of the molds, trichoderma and cobweb, which are common. Don't even ask me wtf that pink stuff was but I can only describe it as having a visibly spirally structure resembling mr. noodles noodle blocks. I haven't seen the pink stuff ever since (and I would describe it as more off-white, very difficult to distinguish from the rhizomorphic structure, color-wise.... though shape-wise it was obvious it was a contamn -- this occured in pf jars which I supplemented with coffee, the ones I supplemented with hay were fine -- they were also done with a suspicious lc which was still somewhat yellowish, because my first attempt at lc saw some jars completely white, and others lagging behind and I wanted to grow out the various lc's to see if I had succeeded with them. The lack of a casing layer is a problem, next time I am not removing the tape from the holes, or if I have to at least not right away, which=problem solved in my books. This still begs to question, why all that biodiversity resulting from that syringe? Something which I haven't seen since then, and probably won't see again. These types of molds don't really exist up here our climate is too dry and only certain types of molds will grow on things, I don't even get those funky colors by leaving food sitting out in a dish in the kitchen sink - I get white, and green, and that's it.
I wish I had my camera back then and taken a picture of that shit, but regardless, what else am I supposed to think, because I can yank an lc out of the fridge, one of the yellow ones which I think was from a contamned jar, and inoculate some jars with it, and mycellium will grow (as well as probably that pink contamn and nothing more), and I probably could do it without even bothering with the glove box, or any cover for that matter. I pc everything, and have used one with my first batch. I could probably NOT pc and still get mycellium and a contamn growing.
No MYC=BS syringe in my books.
Also note -- if ralph can switch pans with cubes, by accident, is what I got really SA even? I mean the syringe had a piece of tape on it that said that, but now I gotta call into question if it was even that -- nevermind the fact that it was strain of the month AND individually on-sale (or at least at a pretty low price compared to other syringes on that site), there could have been many different vendors involved in supplying those syringes. I thought I was getting a deal considering I'd already chosen to start with that strain and it was great that it was on sale, now I'm going to remember to just avoid the sale items if I can, so as to ensure better quality in the things that I purchase, and because I feel burned hawkeye is gunna get my business even though I'm not sure about their payment methods (I don't have any desire to use credit cards, I'll send cash in an envelope if I have to, I order my pot the same way so I don't see a problem sending it through a trackable service).
Maybe I'll be sinking $50-$100 just to get some of the trickier to obtain genetics here, but I dunno, what do I know, I was a newb back then and the $.50 cents worth for a needle, $1 in postage, and the buck or two paid to the person that made the syringe (or whatever this is, I honestly don't know what ralph pays these people, but I'm sure it's less than the price that I'd paid for it, I would think ralph deserves at least half the profit for marketing that stuff), either way, I view it as unprofessional to be unresponsive following diverting me to their canadian email address, and till this gets fixed, I'm gunna bitch about it, and I'm gunna send my business elsewhere.
In the end, was it really worth burning a customer? I even paid $10 for 2 empty sterile syringes, what a friggin mistake that was considering I can get a box f 100 for mid $30's around here. If hawkeye gets my $50-$100 bucks because this wasn't fixed (I'd prefer a canadian distributor, but I guess I'll take what I can get), I would have to argue no.
But ralph's canadian counterpart can do what he likes. I have no doubt had I been in the USA, ralph would have fixed it, I'm sure ralph's service is great when ralph is doing the business.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
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From Canada though? I'd suggest that if Ralph is having some problems with things in the USA, canada isn't being ran any better...most notably because ralph himself isn't running it, someone from canada is.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: xtofury]
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Contams happen to everyone... even quality vendors. Shrooms do not fruit in a sterile environment so sometimes shit happens.
The syringe you were sent could have been contaminated or YOU could have contaminated it by simply sucking a bit of air into it before you inoculated anything.
Using some agar w/ your last 2cc's would have told you what you needed to know. At the very least, you could have learned if the spores were viable.
That issue should have been mentioned to your vendor immediately. By now, you may be crying over spilled milk.
There is a huge difference between being sent a contaminated syringe (which is almost always accidental) and being sent mislabeled spores (which could be intentional). One of Ralph's spore suppliers may have intentionally mislabeled cubes as pans, or PESA as PE... in order to make Ralph think he got his correct order. Then Ralph may have sent the mislabeled spores out to his customers under the impression that he was doing everything by the books.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Rose]
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Yeah they do, but I knew about the air suck thing since I started as well, I know that is bad fuckin news, but honestly what grew in those jars did not match the already observed flora in that house. It was 100% alien compared to what has been observed there.
I'm not really crying anymore, and yes I should have emailed it right away, but I'd wanted to try the last 2 cc's to ensure that I was blaming the right thing, but if the vendor is right, then my business is gone, and if I'm right, then my business is definitely gone because nothing was fixed. That syringe technically almost made me drop the idea of growing all together, so I will always be upset that I almost gave up entirely on a hobby I now love because of that. It makes me a little bitter. I know the agar would have proved it a little better but I hadn't intended on working with agar till I got other things under control, and it's a shame that I wasted all of that syringe in my 2nd batch. Either way, you're telling me that you've injected the sides of a jar with a viable syringe, and not seen anything so little as one faint whisp of myc before contamn ran rampant at the inoculation point?
And sure, you're right I shouldn't discount that I could have sucked air in even though I was being very careful not to since I was already aware of what can happen if you do, but for the value of what I got a single one-time replacement shouldn't have been a problem and if I ever get around to being a spore vendor I won't worry about stuff like that nor set such policy like that, sure some people might try and rip me off, but that'll become apparent with the statistics, because constant whiners will stand out and get cut off. One-time whiners, I think deserve the benefit of the doubt. But hey what do I know about business, I only ran a successful one for a couple of years. What I remember is if you dilute your customer base, you don't have as much growth or success. Some business fail because they have such poor policy that they build up a mob of angry customers that talk shit about them. I'm not whining, just doing my part as a consumer. Had the problem been fixed, I would be on here preaching how great ralph is too.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: xtofury]
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xtofury said: Had the problem been fixed, I would be on here preaching how great ralph is too.
And if you'd carefully re-read this thread, you'd see that I am not preaching what you suggest.
If vendors replaced every single order that contaminated (or every order that somebody retroactively wanted replaced), they'd make no $$$. As a successful businessman, you of all people should understand that.
You should've handled this situation quickly and privately. We both agree about that.
You didn't.
Now you are complaining at length and in public about one simple mistake... and unfortunately, because of the way you handled the situation, nobody will ever know who is to blame.
Sorry. I had an unsuccessful first grow too.
At least you now have a couple successful grows under your belt.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Rose]
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sorry, thats funny to me, couple years isnt too successful
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
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I gave it up because I got tired of offering a service orientated business, I prefer manufacturing and products, since they offer greater potential for profit and you don't have to deal with the likes of deadbeats.
That aside, if a vendor fixed every problem they'd make a little less per syringe, indeed, but they'd build up a base of loyal customers. Most successful businesses understand that in order to be successful, you can't be too stingy otherwise word gets out. At least this applies to everything but the largest of corporations here in america, considering they've figured out a way to rob consumers of their right to negotiate and barter.
Not withstanding that, the profit margins on products such as these are so friggin high, on the order of a multiple of what they are actually worth, that I view it as bad business to not rememedy a problem. I also view it as unprofessional when a business can't communicate with their clientele about problems on a timely basis. A no reply is highly unprofessional and means someone isn't worthy of repeat business.
Let's have a look again about how quick you think one of these vendors would go broke: A single mushroom is easy to grow and can make a couple of syringes. A syringe with tip is worth 50 cents. Sure there is overhead on production and man hours but that is minimal since someone could literally make thousands of these things a day. At $15 a piece I would suggest the markup is huge. This is why they can offer such large discounts for orders involving 3 or more syringes. Also note, sometimes they are sold for $20, sometimes even $25, sometimes even more for rare strains. I for one think it to be cheap not to fix a problem because they aren't even spending $5 of their own money for the product that they are selling at 300%-500% markup, and that's if overall tey pay $5, my suggestion is that the price is a little cheaper than $5 per viable spore syringe. Anybody that's made their own syringe would realize just how cheap these things are.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: xtofury]
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Not to stick my nose in the poo...but im hoping the OP is going to validate his point with pic of his cube mistake. Otherwise it would be 7 pages of slander....... Waiting .....that could have been solved with an e-mail
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fixed (as in I didn't know what the hell op means, so I got rid of my reply).
Edited by xtofury (09/02/09 07:04 AM)
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: xtofury]
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When someone writes op...it means original poster....had no intention of replying to you...
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thanks for clearing shit up ralph.
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preschooler said: Not to stick my nose in the poo...but im hoping the OP is going to validate his point with pic of his cube mistake. Otherwise it would be 7 pages of slander....... Waiting .....that could have been solved with an e-mail
Well, any experienced person can tell you when I first made the post, its cube. A few people have said just this... guess there's still some non-believers. For those that care, In attempts to keep y'all updated: I can see some first signs of primordia this morning when I woke up

I'm not even sure if Pan primordia resembles Cube, for this could be a nuther sign. Thus far still looks like every other cube I've grown.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
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With this many pages,replys,views,mods,and tc's involved. Its not too much to ask for final pics. eh?
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I imagine he'll give you FINAL pics when he has them.
As you can see, he doesn't have shrooms yet.
I'd love to see final pics too. I am sorta hoping they come out looking like pans.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Rose]
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yeaaaaaaaah
we need some fruits!
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: xtofury]
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xtofury said: not for me, and I'm at the stage of considering obtaining additional genetics to play with. Guess us canadians don't count, because after having got no reply from the canadian counterpart I pm'ed ralph and got no reply, and yet I sit here having successfully grown over a kilo in a single flush with negligeable contamn issues for the sort of risks that I am taking with substrates. My BRF always grows, and it almost never contamns. I can explain where the contamns come from -- I had a bad lc once which is what I get for using lc taken from a jar that still has a golden tinge to it. Between that and ralph's syringe, I've lost maybe 2 jars out of the 70 remaining jars.
Every single time I get a contamn from a viable inoculation, myc grows fine and then the contamn rears it's ugly head days later. the first batch of 10/10 bad jars with no myc growth, and the 2nd batch of 2 or however many I did with the remaining couple of cc's of innoculant with many, many different colors of mold in it, speaks for itself, because I've never gotten results that horrible since then, and I haven't been doing much of anything different either.
I wish I could have a good relationship with Ralph, seems better than sporeworks from what I hear, and I know I took too long to initiate my second test because I was planning a move, but my strict sense of consumerism disallows me to ever buy anything again from him till there's a remedy, I don't care what the policy is, if that never happens, so be it I'll expand my genetics pool by trading and by perhaps considering another sponsor. Some people win, some people lose. I'm guessing that wasn't your first time buying from him so I'm guessing that you were entitled to a little more respect, lucky you.
I live in Canada, on the other end of the country from Ralphs Canadian counterpart.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: k4ge]
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We definitely have knots:

...But I think I see the first actual pin formation:

Quick, some one I.D. it !!!
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
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from ralphs site...just for reference ya know
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
#10988783 - 09/02/09 07:39 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here is my update to my post
This is suppose to be Pan Vietnamese
This is what my tray's look like so far. I'm going with cub's


What do you think?????????????????
I did speak with the man,There was no word of replacement, I filled him in on my situation, Asked if he knew what cub's where mixed in by mistake and if he had any knowledge of his last surplus of PE being incorrect. His response was "No...no idea."
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: curbstop]
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Nice pinset, though.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Doc_T]
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Thank's
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: curbstop]
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^^^ Those are either the oddest looking Pans I have ever seen... or the most normal looking cubes.
There have been a LOT of problems w/ cubes sold as his Pan Viets in the last 3-4 months... including people who received replacement spores which were ALSO cubes.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Rose]
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even if its the wrong kind, its a nice tray.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: curbstop]
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Nice trays of cubes both of you, Sucks you're having problems.
I've never ordered from Raplh, so I have nothing to add to the debate.
Just subscribing to this thread. I want to see the final results.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: I'm locking all four of these spores/vendor threads. They're off topic here, and we've been tolerant of one thread in particular, but now it's spawned many more.
All of the shroomery vendors will provide a quality product or you get your money back. If they fail to live up to that, they soon are no longer vendors here. That's the fact. In addition, spores are sold for microscopy identification use. Putting vendor threads in a cultivation forum is not appropriate. RR
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