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Boris
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Rose]
#10961902 - 08/29/09 03:27 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cervantes said: I am putting my neck out here... but, at this point, this REALLY needs to be discussed.
I have seen a lot of Ralph threads like this recently, and IMO, after looking at COUNTLESS 'strain' threads (and trust me, I have looked at countless 'strain' threads), this is indeed cause for concern.
Let me state this as simply as I can: Ralph has very little control over the spores he sells. He runs his company just like a free spore ring, except he charges people for his spores.
Ralph sells spores that independent growers (like you) send him.
Let me say that again.
Ralph sells spores that independent growers send him. If his growers say the spores he has been sent are pan cyans, he sells them as pan cyans.
Don't believe me?
RALPH ADVERTISES FOR NEW GROWERS ON HIS WEBSITE ALL THE TIME.
Ralph seemingly trusts that the spores he is given are what he is told THEY ARE. And lately, there have been countless mistakes... particularly with his exotics.
I imagine his cubes could be unreliable too... but cubes are cubes... so how the hell would anybody know for sure?
I don't know if Ralph barters with his growers or if he pays them for their work... but I am 99.99% certain he does not grow his own prints... nor does he even seem to have a microscope. Which simply means, Ralph has little to no quality control. If his growers fuck up, Ralph has no way of knowing.
Trust me, I would not have said all this if it were not becoming a pretty fucking obvious problem...
I know, we are all supposed to kiss the asses of all our sacred Shroomery vendors... especially guys like Ralph (He once SAVED The Shroomery! Honest.) but this is getting old. And I can no longer trust Ralph to sell the spores he says he is selling. I trust him to sell viable spores... but I no longer trust the integrity of his spore selection.
If you want quality control, Ralph is not your vendor. If you want cheap, viable spores, Ralph is your guy.
Cervantes out.
I really respect you allot for, "sticking your neck out there".
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10963362 - 08/29/09 08:37 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I really hope Ralph can fix this problem. Not just yours, but the general quality of all his exotics.
I like Ralph. Good guy. Passionate. A true Shroomerite.
Your problem however, is becoming quite common.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Rose]
#10966873 - 08/30/09 03:18 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its funny how Ralph hasn't dropped by here to say anything, or answer my e-mail even after I PMed/e-mailed him about it with a link to this post.
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"We have to create culture, don't watch TV, don't read magazines, don't even listen to NPR. Create your own roadshow. The nexus of space and time where you are now is the most immediate sector of your universe, and if you're worrying about Michael Jackson or Bill Clinton or somebody else, then you are disempowered, you're giving it all away to icons, icons which are maintained by an electronic media so that you want to dress like X or have lips like Y. This is shit-brained, this kind of thinking. That is all cultural diversion, and what is real is you and your friends and your associations, your highs, your orgasms, your hopes, your plans, your fears. And we are told 'no', we're unimportant, we're peripheral. 'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.' And then you're a player, you don't want to even play in that game. You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world."
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10967027 - 08/30/09 03:37 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I still wana see what pops up from that to b 4 sure.
it would be a shame to have such a variety of cube strains from ralphs to not even know if their lables are correct, let alone exotics like pans that you pay more for.
I just dont like the paper/electronic trail when using sporeworks (registering w/billing addy and such), thats why Ralphs has gotten all my business so far. they both are equal distances from me.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10967066 - 08/30/09 03:46 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Boris said: Its funny how Ralph hasn't dropped by here to say anything, or answer my e-mail even after I PMed/e-mailed him about it with a link to this post.
It's not really funny at all, considering you're not supposed to try to grow with his spores... This thread is full of people talking about growing with his spores, which is a no-no.
Ralph has legal obligations that I'm sure keep him from responding to this thread.
P.S. I just realized that you're the OP... you do understand that you've posted pics of a grow attempt with spores that you say came from Ralph, right? IMO he'd be stupid to respond to you at all, as this is clearly against the rules of every sponsor out there.
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Edited by Lostkeys (08/30/09 03:50 PM)
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Lostkeys]
#10967129 - 08/30/09 03:56 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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P.S. I just realized that you're the OP... you do understand that you've posted pics of a grow attempt with spores that you say came from Ralph, right? IMO he'd be stupid to respond to you at all, as this is clearly against the rules of every sponsor out there.
he could still PM or E-mail the OP about said subject with out anyones knowledge of doing so. I think hes waiting to see how the fruits develop.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
#10967176 - 08/30/09 04:06 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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13shrooms said:
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P.S. I just realized that you're the OP... you do understand that you've posted pics of a grow attempt with spores that you say came from Ralph, right? IMO he'd be stupid to respond to you at all, as this is clearly against the rules of every sponsor out there.
he could still PM or E-mail the OP about said subject with out anyones knowledge of doing so. I think hes waiting to see how the fruits develop.
That's just not how things are done... it's bad for business, that's why all sponsor sites have disclaimers stating "Spores for microscopy only"
Think about it, Ralph has no idea who this person is or who he could possibly be working for... would YOU take the risk?
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Lostkeys]
#10967204 - 08/30/09 04:11 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lostkeys said:
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Boris said: Its funny how Ralph hasn't dropped by here to say anything, or answer my e-mail even after I PMed/e-mailed him about it with a link to this post.
It's not really funny at all, considering you're not supposed to try to grow with his spores... This thread is full of people talking about growing with his spores, which is a no-no.
Ralph has legal obligations that I'm sure keep him from responding to this thread.
P.S. I just realized that you're the OP... you do understand that you've posted pics of a grow attempt with spores that you say came from Ralph, right? IMO he'd be stupid to respond to you at all, as this is clearly against the rules of every sponsor out there.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7976094#7976094
From the, "Sponsor/Vendor" forum:
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Roadkill said: Please remember when talking to the Shroomery Vendors/Sponsors not to talk about growing items deemed illegal under US laws...
Active Mushroom Spores are sold for microscopic research only!~
If you want growing advice...
for the protection of our Vendors/Sponsors please discuss this in the Mushroom Cultivation forum.
If you have an issue with contamination and you wanna discuss the growing process that you used...
for the protection of our Vendors/Sponsors please discuss this in the Mushroom Cultivation forum or the Contamination forum.
If you have a bad syringe or some kind of contaminated substrate that you feel was one of the Vendors/Sponsors fault...
please just simply state that you recieved a contaminated item...
and don't go into any detail of growing...at all.
Any complaint that goes into details on growing illegal items will be locked...
and you will be informed by me or another Moderator why it was locked.
thank you!~
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Apparently its fair game to talk about it in the cultivation forums ? I've seen posts with Ralph saying he loves this hobby, and saying pans are his favorite, but only in the cult forums...
People post grows boasting how much they love there products from Ralph, ect... if it was a , "no-no" then this would have been a long time ago.
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13shrooms said: I just dont like the paper/electronic trail when using sporeworks (registering w/billing addy and such), thats why Ralphs has gotten all my business so far. they both are equal distances from me.
You can't actually be that paranoid can you ?
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Terence McKenna Said:
"We have to create culture, don't watch TV, don't read magazines, don't even listen to NPR. Create your own roadshow. The nexus of space and time where you are now is the most immediate sector of your universe, and if you're worrying about Michael Jackson or Bill Clinton or somebody else, then you are disempowered, you're giving it all away to icons, icons which are maintained by an electronic media so that you want to dress like X or have lips like Y. This is shit-brained, this kind of thinking. That is all cultural diversion, and what is real is you and your friends and your associations, your highs, your orgasms, your hopes, your plans, your fears. And we are told 'no', we're unimportant, we're peripheral. 'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.' And then you're a player, you don't want to even play in that game. You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world."
Edited by Boris (08/30/09 04:13 PM)
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cyb3rtr0n
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Rose]
#10967229 - 08/30/09 04:16 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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all places that sell spores for microscopy research don't grow the fruit the spores come from. That is unless they have a federal permit for manufacturing schedule 1 drugs.
plus this thread has nothing really to do with cultivation, it sounds like a sponsor problem.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10967235 - 08/30/09 04:18 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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All I'm saying is that just because you've posted this in the cultivation forum doesn't mean he's any more able to respond to you here than in the sponsor forum.
After all, he has a business and livelihood to think about.
Next time just say "hey Ralph, I looked at these spores under a microscope and they don't appear to be the species I ordered". I guarantee he'll respond and make things right with ya.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Lostkeys]
#10967247 - 08/30/09 04:20 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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it was obviously posted in Cultivation forum to get more attention... negative propaganda gets more views here..
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Lostkeys]
#10967248 - 08/30/09 04:20 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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"hey Ralph, I looked at these spores under a microscope and they don't appear to be the species I ordered".
-------------------- AMU
Terence McKenna Said:
"We have to create culture, don't watch TV, don't read magazines, don't even listen to NPR. Create your own roadshow. The nexus of space and time where you are now is the most immediate sector of your universe, and if you're worrying about Michael Jackson or Bill Clinton or somebody else, then you are disempowered, you're giving it all away to icons, icons which are maintained by an electronic media so that you want to dress like X or have lips like Y. This is shit-brained, this kind of thinking. That is all cultural diversion, and what is real is you and your friends and your associations, your highs, your orgasms, your hopes, your plans, your fears. And we are told 'no', we're unimportant, we're peripheral. 'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.' And then you're a player, you don't want to even play in that game. You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world."
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10967377 - 08/30/09 04:43 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah thats like goin into a headshop and asking which pipe is best to smoke bud with... don't think they'll be giving you an answer...
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Re: Is Ralph Slack in' ? [Re: Boris]
#10967381 - 08/30/09 04:43 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can't actually be that paranoid can you ?
man, shit happens and if that shit did ever happen, on either end, Id like to minimize any felonious fucked laws that might get pinned/linked 2 me. just in case.
it took me a few months just to sign-up to be a member on shroomery let alone post pics or trade with others. dont trust internet technology.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Lostkeys]
#10967435 - 08/30/09 04:51 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lostkeys said:
All I'm saying is that just because you've posted this in the cultivation forum doesn't mean he's any more able to respond to you here than in the sponsor forum.
After all, he has a business and livelihood to think about.
Next time just say "hey Ralph, I looked at these spores under a microscope and they don't appear to be the species I ordered". I guarantee he'll respond and make things right with ya.
QFT!~
Ralph would be foolish to respond to this thread... as would any other Vendor, if it was directed to them.
My post in the Vendor/Sponsor forum is basically telling you not to talk about your grows with them. From a legality point they don't want to hear about your Cultivation or Cultivation problems. Including inoculations, LC's, agar work...etc. etc.
If you need help with your grows ask for help here in the Mush Cult forum.
If you have a contaminated syringe, or a syringe with a species other than what you ordered... Just tell them you found a problem under your microscope and that you would like a replacement. It's that easy.
As far as Substrate... you could be growing edibles. So don't mention Exotic(Active) Species of mushrooms when talking about your substrate problems in the Vendor/Sponsor forum.
Use common sense.
tc
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Roadkill]
#10967480 - 08/30/09 04:57 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Boris....I would just delete this thread or have it locked....then try the "code talk" in a PM after you get some fruits so your sure about having wrong spores. I guess you and you only are not allowed to do what others do everyday here.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
#10967501 - 08/30/09 04:59 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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13shrooms said:
I guess you and you only are not allowed to do what others do everyday here.
which is?
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Roadkill]
#10967524 - 08/30/09 05:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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complain about a vendor...
the OP didnt start the thread out like this. he asked what other pan growers thought and the posters that failed to read the first post assumed he was bashing and started all the ralphster talk.
Im only stating this due to the only place Ive used is ralphters and would like to see if his product is what it is or if I should even be concerned. so Ive been watchin this thread to see if anything is amiss.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
#10967559 - 08/30/09 05:06 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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13shrooms said: ...
the OP didnt start the thread out like this...
umm, the title of the thread is incriminating...
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
#10967636 - 08/30/09 05:15 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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cyb3rtr0n said:
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13shrooms said: ...
the OP didnt start the thread out like this...
umm, the title of the thread is incriminating...
as are most of your posts. pan grow post
people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.
if your helping fine, if your a mod fine, other than that you dont have to read this thread.
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