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Boris
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Is Ralph Slackin' ?
#10953015 - 08/28/09 01:54 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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About a couple months ago I ordered a Pan Suphanburi Syringe from Ralphster's. The syringe is labeled, "Sup" and I knocked my jars up with it right away when I got it. A few weeks down the road I'm getting nothing, no Myc growth, no contams, ...nothing. I send an e-mail explaining I'm a seasoned cultivator so you can expect I did everything right, and I respect them as a sponsor, but there product failed to produce anything. They send me a replacement, "NO PROBLEM" ! Again, its labeled, "Sup" and I go right to work with it. 3-4 days later, MYC GROWTH!!! A week later ...things start looking very, "Cube like". I have researched pan and cube myc to be very different. Pan myc is very thin, cottony, wispy, and fragile. Cube myc is very dense, strong, and has a very distinct Rhizomorphic growth. My Jars look like this:

Rhizomorphic Myc climbing the jar walls:

I spawn it, let it colonize and into the Martha it goes:

I guess in a few days we'll see exactly what it produces, but anyone that's experienced with growing Pans I would love a reply from you. I would like to know what you think I'm working with here. It kinda angers me, but I'm torn because I've always loved Ralphster's, and this is the first and only bad review I can say I have with them. If indeed this is a Cube species, I wont be able to print em, trade em, give em away, nothing... Because I'm not gunna put a mystery cube out in circulation. ...Anyways, any-ones thoughts are welcome;
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10953029 - 08/28/09 02:02 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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no tellin until it starts producing lol
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: nickelz34]
#10953045 - 08/28/09 02:08 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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nickelz34 said: no tellin until it starts producing lol
like I said, Panaelous and cubensis myc characteristics are like night and day. So far this looks like every other cube grow I've did.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10953070 - 08/28/09 02:15 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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watching.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: nastos]
#10953104 - 08/28/09 02:25 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i hope he is not slacking......i am about to order syringes. i think it will be fine, who's stupid enough to mix it?
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elementswrath said: i hope he is not slacking......i am about to order syringes. i think it will be fine, who's stupid enough to mix it?
Or perhaps they thought I'd be too dumb to notice the difference ?
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10953154 - 08/28/09 02:36 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Boris said:
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elementswrath said: i hope he is not slacking......i am about to order syringes. i think it will be fine, who's stupid enough to mix it?
Or perhaps they thought I'd be too dumb to notice the difference ?
i don't know, ralph usually doesn't do this. he has a good rep. it could just be a malfunction of some sort on his website. nobody's perfect.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10953157 - 08/28/09 02:37 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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or maybe hes got 8million arms.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: just me]
#10953722 - 08/28/09 07:02 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i recently ordered two syringes from ralph, a cube cambo and a pan cam. i used the cubie syringe first. i had 2 bags of rye berries that i bought already sealed and pasteurized or sterilized how ever they do it, i bought them from high mountain compost. i injected 5cc in one bag and 3cc in the other. i did this to see which one grew faster, better. i was very sterile when i did this. i did every thing like the directions said(this was my first time) 7 days pass and nothing. everyone tells me to be patient. 14 days pass, nothing. so i sent ralph a msg explaining this and and he sent me a new syringe. the new one looks much better than the other one. its got spores all through it. both the cube cambo and the pan cam looked like plain water. then on sunday night i knocked up 3 jars of wbs that i did using 6ts wild birdseed tek with the pan cam syringe. this morn i look at my jars, there is nothing in there. im not going to bitch about it though cause i am new and i did the wbs myself so it could very easily be my fault. although i really dont think it is. but ya, my first experience was a bad one.
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Thats cube 100%.
Sorry to hear that mate.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: badman]
#10953737 - 08/28/09 07:13 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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thats a pretty deep depth for doing pans, dont they only need 1.5 inches and a thin 1/4 inch casing layer.
The rhyzo at the top of the jar does suggest that it could be cube mycelium but idk.
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I think you being to drastic-- how many times have you ordered from ralphs? I mean if its the first time you were not satified with a dud syringe he sent you another one to rectify the matter and from the pics its working-.....
Cut him a break- i had it happen to me but in return they sent me 2 for the incovenience... It was like 4 years ago... it can be many variables to why the needles was a dud...But they replace it for yah... Thats cool..
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botanisthype said: I think you being to drastic-- how many times have you ordered from ralphs? I mean if its the first time you were not satified with a dud syringe he sent you another one to rectify the matter and from the pics its working-.....
Cut him a break- i had it happen to me but in return they sent me 2 for the incovenience... It was like 4 years ago... it can be many variables to why the needles was a dud...But they replace it for yah... Thats cool..
Yeah from what I've seen on the forums, Ralph rectifies any wrong shipments, etc etc, without second thought and often throws an extra in the deal just to ensure that everyone is happy. You can't find a much better deal than that, can you? Personally, I've never ordered from Ralph (I've been living off free prints for a while ) but I plan to soon, gotta support the good guys in this game.
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botanisthype said: I think you being to drastic-- how many times have you ordered from ralphs?
This was my 2nd time. First time I loved the genetics in the product I received, So I decided to come back. 2nd order had a dud so I gave Ralph the benefit of the doubt and just nicely explained the syringe was a dud, or something. Now the replacement is labeled Pan Sup, and has Cube spores inside....
I don't know if I should keep on letting it go, or go to another sponsor. But see, we have sponsors so we can trust them to have good products, or is it so the shroomery/sponsors can make more $ ?  You start to wonder. I don't want anyone to think I'm being over reactive, cause I still wanna give Ralph the benefit of the doubt, and believe its a great vendor. These are just some thoughts that run through my head.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10954456 - 08/28/09 11:18 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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maybe its some thick pan myc and your pans are going to flush like crazy, be optimistic, Ive ordered from ralph half a dozen times and have been 100% ecstatic with every purchase.
if those are pans, (which Ive never worked with yet) they are lookin healthy.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10954481 - 08/28/09 11:24 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe someone mislabeled a batch of syringes. Imagine how pissed others will be when they try growing their pans under cube conditions.
Let Ralph know that he, likely, made some mistake so that he might rectify not only your order, but any future problems that may be encountered. Don't worry so much, he's not trying to swindle you. It's just a mistake, it happens.
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post your pics in the vendors/sponcers forum and maybe ralph will chime in on the matter, you got pics so you got proof.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
#10954593 - 08/28/09 11:53 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Most def looks like a cubes MYC.
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: 13shrooms]
#10954758 - 08/28/09 12:18 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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13shrooms said: post your pics in the vendors/sponcers forum and maybe ralph will chime in on the matter, you got pics so you got proof.
I'm not sure I could get my full point across after reading this stickied rule on the Vendor/sponcer forum:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7976094#7976094
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"We have to create culture, don't watch TV, don't read magazines, don't even listen to NPR. Create your own roadshow. The nexus of space and time where you are now is the most immediate sector of your universe, and if you're worrying about Michael Jackson or Bill Clinton or somebody else, then you are disempowered, you're giving it all away to icons, icons which are maintained by an electronic media so that you want to dress like X or have lips like Y. This is shit-brained, this kind of thinking. That is all cultural diversion, and what is real is you and your friends and your associations, your highs, your orgasms, your hopes, your plans, your fears. And we are told 'no', we're unimportant, we're peripheral. 'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.' And then you're a player, you don't want to even play in that game. You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world."
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Re: Is Ralph Slackin' ? [Re: Boris]
#10954765 - 08/28/09 12:19 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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-------------------- AMU
Terence McKenna Said:
"We have to create culture, don't watch TV, don't read magazines, don't even listen to NPR. Create your own roadshow. The nexus of space and time where you are now is the most immediate sector of your universe, and if you're worrying about Michael Jackson or Bill Clinton or somebody else, then you are disempowered, you're giving it all away to icons, icons which are maintained by an electronic media so that you want to dress like X or have lips like Y. This is shit-brained, this kind of thinking. That is all cultural diversion, and what is real is you and your friends and your associations, your highs, your orgasms, your hopes, your plans, your fears. And we are told 'no', we're unimportant, we're peripheral. 'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.' And then you're a player, you don't want to even play in that game. You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world."
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