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honey tek to blaim for bacteria?
    #1093295 - 11/28/02 05:28 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I've made a bunch of jars using two honey teks. Nr 1: put spores in a bottle with honey water and then use that solution (after a few weeks when there's a bunch of mycelium in there) and Nr 2: have honey water in a syringe and suck up some spores into it, then leave it for a week or so.

Now the jars exploded with mycelium growth when i used this stuff to innoculate, but then bacteria started growing in there too. I've gotten bacteria in some other jars also so i can't right away blaim the honey tek (well.. more like my lousy version of it, it'd rule if kept clean!), but I was hoping someone could state from experience if they have had problems with bacteria in honey water teks.

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Re: honey tek to blaim for bacteria? [Re: melic]
    #1093302 - 11/28/02 05:33 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

using honey water can throw the moisture content off in the jars, supporting bacteria. This is the main downside I see to honey/karo water.

Edited by mlv (11/28/02 05:34 AM)

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Re: honey tek to blaim for bacteria? [Re: mlv]
    #1093338 - 11/28/02 06:20 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

well it should not throw off the water content since i use it instead of spore syringes, not as a complement to them


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Re: honey tek to blaim for bacteria? [Re: melic]
    #1093385 - 11/28/02 08:37 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

of course honey is susceptible to contams like anything else used to grow myc. I think you need to reevaluate your procedures. sounds like your jars did not get sterilized when you pc'd/boiled, as you said other jars got contams which you didn't shoot with honey.


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Re: honey tek to blaim for bacteria? [Re: melic]
    #1093562 - 11/28/02 11:21 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

How did you sterilize the honey water ?

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Re: honey tek to blaim for bacteria? [Re: MAIA]
    #1093752 - 11/28/02 12:26 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I think i bought sterile water.
i think..
it's possible i used boiled tap water though.
either way i then boiled the bottle.
i didn't have a PC at the time


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Re: honey tek to blaim for bacteria? [Re: melic]
    #1095509 - 11/29/02 04:14 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

When did you add the honey to the water ? Before or after sterilizing ?
Anyway, never mind, boiling water is not enough to sterilize it, you have to PC it, or another technique i used with success is microwaving the honey water, 5 to 8 minutes on max power. To do this i used a jar with a plastic lid and one hole poked on lid and taped. After cooling down, it's innocualted with a spore syringe.
Honey water contams very easeally, you've got to be super sterile. Better luck next time ....

MAIA


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