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Getting into shape?
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Well here's the deal - I leave for basic training in ~5 months. I'm a bit underweight, never been to a gym in my life, and have never really exercised. So my goal is to pack on some pounds before I go in, and be able to run all day every day, up hill both ways in the snow. I'm not really concerned with "big muscles" or anything like that, I just want to be able to run.. a lot, without getting tired. Any advice on how I should start out?
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: pfxtc]
#10933434 - 08/25/09 10:59 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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start lifting heavy shit over and over
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: pfxtc]
#10933448 - 08/25/09 11:01 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Join a Y and run in there pool (15min of running in the deep-end = one hour on land)
Trust me, you will get into shape fast..
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: Brainiac]
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Brainiac said: Join a Y and run in there pool (15min of running in the deep-end = one hour on land)
Trust me, you will get into shape fast..
Call me stupid but how do you run in the deep end of a pool?
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: Brainiac]
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Brainiac said: Join a Y and run in there pool (15min of running in the deep-end = one hour on land)
Trust me, you will get into shape fast..
cardio will not pack on the pounds as he's asking for.
head over to bodybuilding.com and pick out a good beginners full body routine, don't worry about splits yet because they aren't even necessary for your level of fitness. work on strength one day, cardio the next and alternate 4-5 times a week. eat lots of healthy protein and get your efa's and you should be gaining weight in no time.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: pfxtc]
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Brainiac said: Join a Y and run in there pool (15min of running in the deep-end = one hour on land)
Trust me, you will get into shape fast..
Call me stupid but how do you run in the deep end of a pool?
Floating head up with your lag moving....
Hear is a good read....
http://www.calainc.org/Aquafitness/water_vs_land.htm
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Brainiac said: Join a Y and run in there pool (15min of running in the deep-end = one hour on land)
Trust me, you will get into shape fast..
cardio will not pack on the pounds as he's asking for.
head over to bodybuilding.com and pick out a good beginners full body routine, don't worry about splits yet because they aren't even necessary for your level of fitness. work on strength one day, cardio the next and alternate 4-5 times a week. eat lots of healthy protein and get your efa's and you should be gaining weight in no time.
I was under the impression that protein wouldn't do me any good, calories are what I need.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: pfxtc]
#10933556 - 08/25/09 11:23 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Brainiac said: Join a Y and run in there pool (15min of running in the deep-end = one hour on land)
Trust me, you will get into shape fast..
cardio will not pack on the pounds as he's asking for.
head over to bodybuilding.com and pick out a good beginners full body routine, don't worry about splits yet because they aren't even necessary for your level of fitness. work on strength one day, cardio the next and alternate 4-5 times a week. eat lots of healthy protein and get your efa's and you should be gaining weight in no time.
I was under the impression that protein wouldn't do me any good, calories are what I need.
Protein is key to building muscle, and if you want to both get bigger and be able to run far i'd combine the two above suggestions
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: twighead]
#10933564 - 08/25/09 11:25 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would start by simply doing like...150 situps amd 150 pushups every night before you go to sleep.
Job every day a couple times for like 25 minutes. Eat healthier Stretch a few times everyday And....yeah just do that and you will be good to go.
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Putting on weight and running do not work well together.
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HopanDubMan said: I would start by simply doing like...150 situps amd 150 pushups every night before you go to sleep.
Job every day a couple times for like 25 minutes. Eat healthier Stretch a few times everyday And....yeah just do that and you will be good to go.
150 pushups, good lord.
But yeah I'm not looking for anything too excruciating, I'm not too out of shape but gaining weight is going to be the hardest part.
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if he has never worked out. there is no way he can do 150 push ups a night.
dont focus on numbers. just drop down to the floor and pump out as many as you can. im talking about until you try to push that last one up, and you just collapse. then wait a couple minutes and do it again. do this about every other day. cause if you do it every day, you arent giving your muscle fibers time to rebuild. on the days your aren't doing pushups, run.
once you get to the point where you can do a shitload of pushups without getting that tired. fill a backpack with books, put it on, and pump out a bunch more push ups.
pushups are the utimate upper body workout. they build both strength and endurance. its alot like benchpressing about 2/3 of your body weight.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: pfxtc]
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150 pushups will do nothing but destroy your joints if you have no exercise experience, do not listen to such a thing. I am in pretty damn good shape and i would say 50 pushups is my absolute max i could do in one go. you don't want to get huge and bulky for basic, which is why i wouldn't recommend a sole weight training routine, however if you were to bulk for 2 months then cut for 2 months then have 1 month maintenance with good split workouts and cardio alternating i would say you would have a good chance at begin healthier and a lot stronger.
like i said, simply search the bodybuilding.com for good beginner routines, and work from there. don't get discouraged when you start to plateau because your first gains are definitely the easiest.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: Bozeman]
#10933637 - 08/25/09 11:38 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bozeman said: if he has never worked out. there is no way he can do 150 push ups a night.
dont focus on numbers. just drop down to the floor and pump out as many as you can. im talking about until you try to push that last one up, and you just collapse. then wait a couple minutes and do it again. do this about every other day. cause if you do it every day, you arent giving your muscle fibers time to rebuild. on the days your aren't doing pushups, run.
once you get to the point where you can do a shitload of pushups without getting that tired. fill a backpack with books, put it on, and pump out a bunch more push ups.
pushups are the utimate upper body workout. they build both strength and endurance. its alot like benchpressing about 2/3 of your body weight.
I disagree. Not only are pushups a waste of time they will not put any size on you. He needs to gain weight. Doing pushups makes you better at doing pushups.
Go to a gym and lift a barbell.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: Bozeman]
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Space em out? lol I am sorry, ive been working out in school for sports and shit since I was 13 :/
Umm, you could just go jogging. A lot, maybe when you walk around try and walk a little faster with more force in your step, this will definitely make a difference.
Do calisthenic excersizes on a hill...not too much of an incline, but a hill will help a lot in getting in shape, obviously because of the added effort that is needed. It will also make you more agile and quick.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: Bozeman]
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You have to do the push ups in increments.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: Bozeman]
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and remember there are many different pushup positions. and each position focuses on a certain muscle. im not exactly sure which position helps which, thats why i do a bunch of different variation.
im pretty fit. 5,8 145 pretty much all muscle, except for a little extra flab in the legs because i dont run. and i never use weights except for dumbells every once in a while for biceps. but even for biceps, i mainly use a pullup bar.
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Yeah, I wasn't saying to do them all at once.
I usually do sets of 25 situps, 25 pushups. Wait a few minutes, catch my breath, and do another 25-25 until I have 150 done.
But you guys are right that many pushups and situps are only going to destroy, instead of strenghthen, if you don't have any history of working out.
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What advice do you guys have for gaining weight? I'm under the impression you can't gain muscle* if you don't have any meat to put the muscle on I honestly need to gain about 30-40 pounds.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: Rocker232]
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dont focus on numbers. just drop down to the floor and pump out as many as you can. im talking about until you try to push that last one up, and you just collapse. then wait a couple minutes and do it again. do this about every other day. cause if you do it every day, you arent giving your muscle fibers time to rebuild. on the days your aren't doing pushups, run.
once you get to the point where you can do a shitload of pushups without getting that tired. fill a backpack with books, put it on, and pump out a bunch more push ups.
pushups are the utimate upper body workout. they build both strength and endurance. its alot like benchpressing about 2/3 of your body weight.
I disagree. Not only are pushups a waste of time they will not put any size on you. He needs to gain weight. Doing pushups makes you better at doing pushups.
Go to a gym and lift a barbell.
bullshit. if you read my whole post. you will understand. the regular pushups will just get him in shape. then you start adding weights, just like you would if you were benching.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: pfxtc]
#10933681 - 08/25/09 11:45 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Umm...eat lots of chicken and potatoes. And just exercize.
Idk, I really have no idea on gaining weight :/
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: pfxtc]
#10933684 - 08/25/09 11:46 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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pfxtc said: Well here's the deal - I leave for basic training in ~5 months. I'm a bit underweight, never been to a gym in my life, and have never really exercised. So my goal is to pack on some pounds before I go in, and be able to run all day every day, up hill both ways in the snow. I'm not really concerned with "big muscles" or anything like that, I just want to be able to run.. a lot, without getting tired. Any advice on how I should start out?
A whiny bitch like you is leaving for basic training in 5 months?
hahahahahahahahhaa, have fun pal.
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HopanDubMan said: Umm...eat lots of chicken and potatoes. And just exercize.
Idk, I really have no idea on gaining weight :/
Yeah - I think I have insanely fast metabolism, gaining has always been hard.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: pfxtc]
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btw i know what im talking about. in january i weighed 135. then i started working out with only different variations of pushups, and a pull up bar. i immediately lost 5 pounds then slowly gained 15 back. leaving me at 145. 15 lbs of muscle added within a matter of months using nothing but my own body weight and a backpack filled with various heavy objects. i weighed 145 in june, and still weigh 145.
and in the military you only need to carry your own weight plus some.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: pfxtc]
#10933729 - 08/25/09 11:52 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/
do this 3 days a week, with at least a day in between. cardio on the off days. idk uite how skinny you are, but if you need to put on a lot of weight quickly, drink a gallon of milk every day. yes. a gallon.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: Bozeman]
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Bozeman said: btw i know what im talking about. in january i weighed 135. then i started working out with only different variations of pushups, and a pull up bar. i immediately lost 5 pounds then slowly gained 15 back. leaving me at 145. 15 lbs of muscle added within a matter of months using nothing but my own body weight and a backpack filled with various heavy objects. i weighed 145 in june, and still weigh 145.
and in the military you only need to carry your own weight plus some.
I'm listening
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: robothax]
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robothax said: http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/
do this 3 days a week, with at least a day in between. cardio on the off days. idk uite how skinny you are, but if you need to put on a lot of weight quickly, drink a gallon of milk every day. yes. a gallon.
Gallon of milk a day - never heard of that one before, sounds unhealthy.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: pfxtc]
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Idk, I really have no idea on gaining weight :/
Yeah - I think I have insanely fast metabolism, gaining has always been hard.
Same here...I have weighed 155 for the past 4 years. Somehow I weigh 162 now though...
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: pfxtc]
#10933769 - 08/25/09 11:56 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://stronglifts.com/how-to-gain-weight-for-skinny-guys/
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Whole Milk. If you don’t bother gaining some fat, drink 1 gallon whole milk per day on top of your current food intake. I’ve seen guys gaining 60lbs/year drinking 1 gallon per milk per day while Squatting 3x/week.
the cardio + weight training takes care of whatever fat you might gain
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: pfxtc]
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do this 3 days a week, with at least a day in between. cardio on the off days. idk uite how skinny you are, but if you need to put on a lot of weight quickly, drink a gallon of milk every day. yes. a gallon.
Gallon of milk a day - never heard of that one before, sounds unhealthy.
you'd mostly be putting on water weight. I'd recommend getting a 'weight gainer' like cytosport of Optimum Nutrition's Gold protein powder. But since you say you have a fast metabolism, you should get a weight gainer instead(high calories and high protein).
They don't taste that great, but they really work.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: Neuron]
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Yeah that's what I was thinking, some kind of calorie shake. I've been eating mash potatoes pretty much all day every day, and have gained about 10 in 2 weeks.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: Bozeman]
#10933790 - 08/25/09 11:59 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you do the push ups in increments of 50 they will by faster.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: pfxtc]
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be realistic, you aren't going to gain 40 pounds in 5 months.
You don't need to be big to get past basic, you simply need strength.
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So far I have pushups, running, lots of calories - what am I missing.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: pfxtc]
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pfxtc said: Yeah that's what I was thinking, some kind of calorie shake. I've been eating mash potatoes pretty much all day every day, and have gained about 10 in 2 weeks.
You better start taking a multivitamin, because if that's true you are very malnutritioned.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: Bozeman]
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I just bought a 50 pound weighted vest, and am using that to help me get in really good shape as I am also going to basic in a couple of months.
It is a really good piece of equipment and a good investment if you are serious about exercising, and your not gonna quit after a couple of weeks. I do push-ups, pull-ups, sit-ups, lunges, and sprints with it.
link: http://www.amazon.com/MiR-50Lbs-Adjustable-Weighted-Vest/dp/B00213DMUE
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: Neuron]
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You better start taking a multivitamin, because if that's true you are very malnutritioned.
Right now I take fish oil and b12 - I eat all day and drink plenty of water, I don't think I'm malnutritioned (is that a word?) in any way, unless I have some kind of vitamin absorption problem I'm unaware of.
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suburbantoker said: be realistic, you aren't going to gain 40 pounds in 5 months.
You don't need to be big to get past basic, you simply need strength.
If you're trying to do this I recommend a different type of drug to help you out.
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TrancedShroom said:
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suburbantoker said: be realistic, you aren't going to gain 40 pounds in 5 months.
You don't need to be big to get past basic, you simply need strength.
If you're trying to do this I recommend a different type of drug to help you out.
I didn't say I need 40 in 4 months, I said that 40 is about what I need to get where I probably should be. I know in basic you lose a lot of weight as well, I don't want to fall below the minimum while I'm there. I'm really not interested in PT all that much - roids? Good laugh - I just want to get through basic without killing myself because I was too lazy to get into shape.
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Re: Getting into shape? [Re: pfxtc]
#10934148 - 08/25/09 12:48 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm really thinking of doin some. I really don't care how I do it, but I weigh 172 right now and I want to be at 185 and at 6% BMI.
Shrunken testies, I don't give a shit. Those little fuckers could use a decrease so I don't pop any retarded children out that want to do the same roid workouts as me.
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