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FLLV vs WTBR
    #1091127 - 11/27/02 03:16 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

OK, let the debate begin which is a better Hunter S. Thompson film, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, or Where the Buffalo Roam?

I?ll preface this by stating that, back in 1979, all of us junior-stoners in our safe middle-class neighborhood, in sunny California, passed around a dog-eared copy of FLLV, which we voraciously devoured, and discussed amongst ourselves for several months. Then the movie WTBR came out, at the peak of Saturday Night Live's counter-culture cache, and we loved that movie, and Bill Murray?s portrayal of Dr. Gonzo.

FLLV came out several years ago, and I was much, much, older. I initially didn?t like it, but much of this may be due to the fact that every time I watched it, I was all doped up, and kept nodding off, and couldn?t ever remember much of it past the first few minutes. I own both, on DVD, and recently watched both again, and I like them both, but for different reasons.

I?ll start with some observations:

1) Terry Gilliam, of course, did a lavish production for FLLV, which clearly makes it hands down the better film visually.

2) Bill Murray has a bigger physical presence which is more Thompsonesque. Johnny Dep is kind of a little guy, which Hunter is not. Although dep looked more the part, I found that he lacked the physical presence to carry off the role.

3) Peter Boyle?s Oscar Zeta Acosta was truly a magnificently menacing bat complete with bizarre bozo hair and wrap around shades. However, Benicio del Toro?s brown buffalo was also equally anti-heroic complete with unkempt sloppiness and flabby brown belly.

4) Murray?s portrayal Hunter Thompson had elements of the humor that I believe underlies all of Hunter?s writing. I personally like this humor.

5) Both have excellent sound tracks ? Neil Young was musical director for WTBR. However, my DVD of WTBR doesn?t have the same soundtrack I remember. Crucial songs by Bob Dylan, like Highway 61, seem to be missing! :frown:

Anyway, just getting the ball rolling. Please discuss...


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Re: FLLV vs WTBR [Re: Papaver]
    #1091436 - 11/27/02 05:16 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

I haven't seen Where the Buffalo Roam. I'll write myself a note.


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Re: FLLV vs WTBR [Re: djfrog]
    #1091477 - 11/27/02 05:33 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Just so you know what to look for, here is the movie poster... :cool:

 

Note: To this day, I still long to own a giant stuffed Malaysian fruit bat! :grin:


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    #1091481 - 11/27/02 05:35 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)



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Re: FLLV vs WTBR [Re: Anonymous]
    #1091491 - 11/27/02 05:39 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Note that that appears to be the exact same clear green plastic Las Vegas visor that Johnny Dep also used in FLLV. I need to seriously find me one of those! :grin:

I was just doing a little reading on the making of WTBR, and I guess Thompson was friends with both Bill Murray and John Bellushi! Cool! :cool:


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    #1091502 - 11/27/02 05:46 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)



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Re: FLLV vs WTBR [Re: Anonymous]
    #1091800 - 11/27/02 08:08 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

I asked my sister to get me one when she went to vegas, she forgot. I was going to wear halloween.


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Re: FLLV vs WTBR [Re: djfrog]
    #1091960 - 11/27/02 09:07 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

As far as the Vegas visors go....I could probably round them up pretty easily (living in Vegas and all! :tongue:).  Thruth is, I've never really looked for them, but I'm sure that an hour or two of cruising through some of the cheesier gift shops on the Strip would produce fine results! :smile:

If anyone is in serious need of one we could probably make it happen....PM me... 


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Re: FLLV vs WTBR [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #1092380 - 11/27/02 11:27 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Cool! :cool:


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    #1092410 - 11/27/02 11:36 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)



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Re: FLLV vs WTBR [Re: Anonymous]
    #1092511 - 11/28/02 12:11 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)



Ha ha! :grin:


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Re: FLLV vs WTBR [Re: Anonymous]
    #1092521 - 11/28/02 12:14 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Oh, and lest I forget, the Doctor himself with contemporary vamp, siren, torch singer Pheobe Leger! :cool:

 


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    #1092573 - 11/28/02 12:38 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)



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Re: FLLV vs WTBR [Re: Anonymous]
    #1092617 - 11/28/02 12:53 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Ah, what dreams may come... :grin:

PS: Did you notice Bill Murray's Wild Turkey iv drip set up to his mouth in the above picture? :laugh:


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    #1092656 - 11/28/02 01:05 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)



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Re: FLLV vs WTBR [Re: Anonymous]
    #1092714 - 11/28/02 01:24 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

LoLz! I tried injecting vodka before, but all you do is taste a little bit of it on your tounge. It would take way too many CCs do have any psychoactive effect... :crazy:


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    #1092729 - 11/28/02 01:31 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)



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Re: FLLV vs WTBR [Re: Anonymous]
    #1093477 - 11/28/02 12:17 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

I used to be, but I'm all better now. You can trust me... :wink:


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    #1096630 - 11/29/02 07:30 PM (14 years, 14 days ago)



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Re: FLLV vs WTBR [Re: Anonymous]
    #1096682 - 11/29/02 07:49 PM (14 years, 14 days ago)

LoLz! :grin:


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