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InvisibleSpiffy
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Nightmare
    #1091088 - 11/27/02 03:02 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I had a horrible nightmare last night. I don't want to go into detail becasue I would care not to relive it...but its really effecting my day. I still feel that scared nightmare-like feeling. Knowing that dreams come from your subconcious, I am scared that such violent thoughts are in my brain at all. Any suggestions for getting over it?


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Re: Nightmare [Re: Spiffy]
    #1091101 - 11/27/02 03:06 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Find something incredibly distracting and focus on that. Don't run from it intentionally though. Eventually it will recede.

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Re: Nightmare [Re: Spiffy]
    #1091120 - 11/27/02 03:13 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I think you witnessed an actual murder that will take place next week.


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Re: Nightmare [Re: Swami]
    #1091136 - 11/27/02 03:19 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

what?


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Re: Nightmare [Re: Spiffy]
    #1091148 - 11/27/02 03:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

You should accept wholeheartedly that such violent thoughts came from your mind.

This way if you have dreams of this sort in the future it won't ruin your whole day. Just accept that we're violent creatures at heart.... man I've had some wildly gorey and disgusting hallucinations and dreams in the past, and I just accept the fact that I'm simply a primate, and in these states my brain pieces together whatever primate thoughts may arise. squishy brains and fleshy nastiness in dreams shouldn't bother you - after-all.... it IS a dream :smile: its not like you've killed anybody.

Thats really all you have to look out for - if you start killing people unknowingly while you sleep, then maybe you should dwell on that for a while but otherwise.... come on Spiffy you're fine :smile:

What'd you have for breakfast?

-=- Matt/Strumpling -=-
oh damn i should get some lunch.. thx for indirectly reminding me.


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Re: Nightmare [Re: Spiffy]
    #1091181 - 11/27/02 03:36 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

You have access to every kind of thought in the universe.

Don't be surprised or ashamed that one that you would call "bad" entered your unconcious mind when you were dreaming.

Your dream reminded you of what you are not.



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Re: Nightmare [Re: Learyfan]
    #1091199 - 11/27/02 03:41 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

That one helped a lot...thanks. So you believe that thoughts entering my mind during sleep might not be some dark side of myself...but more a thought that was in the universe and came to me?


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Re: Nightmare [Re: Spiffy]
    #1091206 - 11/27/02 03:44 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

what am i, chopped liver?


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Re: Nightmare [Re: Spiffy]
    #1091225 - 11/27/02 03:53 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Exactly.

You've got access to everything. You're God for Christ sakes!

Don't worry about it.

BTW, Stumbling I liked your response.







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Re: Nightmare [Re: Strumpling]
    #1091241 - 11/27/02 03:59 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

your response was cool too....its just different. I don't want to "accept that we're violent creatures at heart" I think we are love at heart. Violence is not my nature. I appreciate your help though...also, in response to your response in OTD...women do not like men to cum on thier face...that does not get rid of troubles...its violent and totally uncool and certainly would not help this situation.


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Re: Nightmare [Re: Spiffy]
    #1091281 - 11/27/02 04:22 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

First of all "women do not like men to cum on thier face...that does not get rid of troubles...its violent and totally uncool and certainly would not help this situation."

heheh come on you know that was just a follow-up to "You Suck's" joke...

There's a balance to everything... you can't see love without hate, just as you can't see happiness without sadness. All mammals are capable of violence, and use it if necessary. Its been a cruel world for humans in the past and we've built up a violent profile. Its nothing to be ashamed of or whatever.. we're animals struggling for survival... that fact, along with the media spewing violence at us from all angles, puts gorey and bloody and nasty images in our brains. Haven't you had dreams where you're incredibly loving and happy as well? Haven't you had dreams where you get sad or mad or any other emotion you've experienced? These things all swarm together in your dreams as a collage of your consciousness. Its not unusual to have these kinds of things come out in dreams. I guess thats my whole point: its nothing unusual; don't worry about it.


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Re: Nightmare [Re: Spiffy]
    #1091325 - 11/27/02 04:37 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I don't want to "accept that we're violent creatures at heart" I think we are love at heart.

We are here because humans were the most violent and aggressive of all the hominids. We have oblitereated most other large predators. We are descendents of the victors of all human battles that have gone before. Savagery is our ancestry, to deny that is to deny your lineage. It is part and parcel of who we are.


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Re: Nightmare [Re: Swami]
    #1091343 - 11/27/02 04:47 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I disagree. Some people have violent tendencies....but humans are not violent creatures by nature. The ancestors you speak of are from dark times in History...but go back further...go back before the middle ages, before ancient Egypt even..and you would find that humans are not war hungry creatures. It is sad that the times of darkeness and war are the times that stick out in history...but we still exist...and if were were violent at the core, I believe we would have killed ourselves off ages ago! I know myself well enough to know that I am not a violent person by nature. And most people I know aren't either. Love and compassion are traits that make humans stick out from many other species.


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Re: Nightmare [Re: Spiffy]
    #1091354 - 11/27/02 04:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

hehe i'm not talking about war. I'm talking about fighting for mere survival. All living beings have to do this. Its part of evolution


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Re: Nightmare [Re: Strumpling]
    #1091374 - 11/27/02 04:57 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

which is true...but there is a difference between fighting for survival and fighting to gain dominance. I'm not denying the need to survive...but I'm saying that I refuse to believe that humans are violent at the core, violent in their nature, or anything like that. While some people may fit those descriptions, condemning the entire human race as violent fighters is wrong. Most humans are gentle, loving people. Its sad that a select few have to make us all look bad!


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Re: Nightmare [Re: Spiffy]
    #1091376 - 11/27/02 04:58 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

OK well since you won't descibe the dream I can't really take it much further than that :smile:

There is violence in the core, right next to love and beauty... yin and yang


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Re: Nightmare [Re: Swami]
    #1091724 - 11/27/02 07:43 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

In reply to:

Savagery is our ancestry, to deny that is to deny your lineage. It is part and parcel of who we are.




To say that we're savages just because we've done it for so long doesn't sound right.

That's like saying humans by nature shit in our pants just because we used to do it when we didn't know any better.

I also believe that we are love, and i'll add that hate comes from confusion.

In reply to:

Spiffy: women do not like men to cum on thier face...that does not get rid of troubles...its violent and totally uncool and certainly would not help this situation.





You don't really believe that coming on someone's face is violent do you?



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Re: Nightmare [Re: Learyfan]
    #1091733 - 11/27/02 07:45 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I totally do! Would you like some guys to cum on your face? Its very degrading and violent!


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Re: Nightmare [Re: Spiffy]
    #1091756 - 11/27/02 07:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

i used to trhink i had a "problem" cauz i couldn't do the aforementioned(nor did i have any desire too). i used to always consider my inability to do so an inherent "character flaw".....glad i took some time away from mainstream culture's and/or what's "acceptable" to get myself str8ened out :smile: 


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Re: Nightmare [Re: Spiffy]
    #1091762 - 11/27/02 07:52 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I could see "degrading", but i'm not sure what you mean by "violent".



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