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Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009
    #10909883 - 08/22/09 03:21 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Japan's National Police Agency reported Thursday that marijuana arrests were at an all-time high during the first six months of this year. Police said 1,446 were arrested for possessing, using or trafficking in marijuana, up 21.3% from a year earlier. Of those arrested for pot offenses, 63.2% were under the age of 30, suggesting that marijuana use is spreading among young people.

One hundred four people were arrested for marijuana cultivation, up 40.5% over the same period last year. Home cultivation of marijuana is assisted by the availability of seeds and grow supplies over the Internet and by consumers' fears of venturing into illicit drug markets.

The 40.5% increase in grow busts in the first half of this year comes after a 50% increase in grow busts during the first half of last year.

The record arrest figures come as Japan comes to grip with a growing marijuana culture. In the past couple of years, the country has seen repeated "scandals" around marijuana use, including the expulsion of three Russian wrestlers from sumo competition for smoking pot, the arrests of various celebrities, and a national freak-out over students at prestigious universities smoking pot.

The apparent increase in marijuana use in Japan comes despite mass media denunciations of it and despite harsh drug laws. Under the 1948 marijuana control law, any pot offense can earn a prison term of up to 10 years.



http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/598/japan_record_marijuana_arrests


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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 [Re: Coaster]
    #10910350 - 08/22/09 08:18 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

a buddy of mine from japan told me that the last time he was over (like 2 years ago) a G of good nug was upwards of $75USD

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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #10910443 - 08/22/09 08:45 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah. Japan has really expensive weed, hash is cheaper, cocaine is pretty fair, meth is crazy expensive, and  opium and heroin was crazy cheap.

Japan is really weird about drugs. Honor is SO big in that country and the amount of respect, trust, and education is incredible. I don't think there is a single country that runs anywhere near the same socially especially on such an incredibly large scale. I remember the first time I went to japan at 15 I travled for one month with my other white friend, and our childhood japanese friend and his mother who lived in japan until 20. Both of them are fluent and native, so we got to see REAL japan all over the country side, staying will all sorts of families, and going to high school where kids had never seen white skin before. That country is incredible when it comes to drugs. Kids don't do drug not because it's bad for you, or because they are scared, but why would they use drugs when their parent so they are not allowed to, and the government says it's dishonerable. That's all they are told and the shear number of kids that don't even touch it for that reason or even consider it is absolutely amazing.

Their drug culture is extremely unique. I mean the main drug suppliers, the Yakuzza gang, won't sell drugs to certain groups of people, certain ages, and certain socio-economic groups. Their dealers and the suppliers  farther down the food chain are punished severely for selling marijuana to a group of high school seniors, or woman that have families. I mean this is a country where there are 44 murders a year with a population of 128 million packed into a country the size of California. Many of us cannot begin to fathom why this is the way it is.

Quick funny story. Many of you know about the vending machines that sell beer and cigarettes, but the drinking age is 19. When we are only fifteen my friend and I (the white one) would order beer at restaurants, shots of anything at bars, and whisky drinks at cafes or small lunch stops. We were only 15 with a drinking age of 19, but not ONCE were we carded. Of course this was the coolest thing ever at the time, but at one lunch we asked Yoko (my friends mom) why everyone thought we were 19 or older. She didn't say anything and called the waiter over and asked her how old do these boys look to you. The waiter said 16 as she served us our second beer, and then Yoko asked, "why didn't you ask for ID then? these boys don't understand that because they are from the USA." The waiters response was, "why would anyone lie about their age to drink alcohol? only young people that are atleast 19 can drink according to the law. Every kid in high school and younger knows that they would only say they are 19 if they are really 19, otherwise it is untruthful and a lie. We come from a very weird place if someone must ask to see a piece of plastic to verify if your age is what you say it is, because who in their right mind would ever lie so that they can drink alcohol. It just doesn't work that away." ---- and according to Yoko, that's the way things really work. once in a while kids like, but 99% of the time this is how everything works. That's the reason why beer machines can sit accross the street from the high school we went to for two days, and it doesn't even cross the mind of a single parent, single teacher, or single administrator that they would have ANY reason to worry about students buying alcohol from the vending machine across the street from school unless they were of proper age.


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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 [Re: withoutawire]
    #10910700 - 08/22/09 09:43 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah the Bushido code is what makes Japan such a unique place and it's people so special.
Gi: Rectitude
Yuu: Bravery
Jin: Compassion
Rei: Courtesy
Makoto: Sincerity
Chuugi: Loyalty
Meiyo: Honor
I was very into Asian cultures as a kid, studying martial arts and the old warrior cultures and their ways.
Hope that they stop seeing recreational use as a dishonor though, people (human beings) all have a need to alter reality from time to time, I think it's a natural and necessary mechanism.

Poor Japanese pot heads feeling guilty on top of already feeling ousted and persecuted.

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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 [Re: Morican]
    #10912499 - 08/22/09 01:56 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

What's really funny/interesting about this is that hemp (taima) was no big thing in Japan until the post-war occupation period when the US imposed its own laws while rebuilding Japan.

Yet again, blame America.


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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 [Re: buddhabadger]
    #10914248 - 08/22/09 06:18 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Marijuana and the communist party are on the rise in Japan. There is hope for the world after all.

http://www.jcp.or.jp/english/


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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 [Re: dondoodle]
    #10914425 - 08/22/09 06:40 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

:frown: Communist make me sick.


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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 [Re: Suggs4Drugs]
    #10914442 - 08/22/09 06:42 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

wut about stoner commies


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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 [Re: Suggs4Drugs]
    #10914463 - 08/22/09 06:46 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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:frown: Communist make me sick.




Ya but you are probably just some typical brain-washed ignorant American so what does your ignorant opinion matter?


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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 *DELETED* [Re: dondoodle]
    #10915011 - 08/22/09 07:57 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 [Re: Brian the Shroom]
    #10915360 - 08/22/09 08:41 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

But it looks good on paper:grrr:


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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 [Re: Brian the Shroom]
    #10916734 - 08/22/09 11:41 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Are you seriously supporting communism? You realize it has never, and will never work right?



Works well in China with the world's biggest population.

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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 [Re: Brian the Shroom]
    #10916871 - 08/23/09 12:03 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Brian the Shroom said:
Are you seriously supporting communism? You realize it has never, and will never work right?




Cheap worthless rhetoric and shortsighted thinking.

Just like voting to end the drug war an educated population will vote for socialism. Of course education is needed. Education can beat back the mass propaganda about drugs and communism both of which were and are ideological targets in invented wars largely created by Americans. None of this is news to most conscious people.Of course despotic imperialist governments will resist these changes and seek to thwart democracy at every turn. You do understand that governments who claim to be the purveyors of democracy actually resist democracy with all of their collective resources right? 


Democracy and education =  socialism + decriminalization of drugs

                                              then

                            communism + legalization of drugs

Sound about right to you?


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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 *DELETED* [Re: dondoodle]
    #10916996 - 08/23/09 12:20 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 [Re: Brian the Shroom]
    #10917115 - 08/23/09 12:40 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Brian the Shroom said:
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Cheap worthless rhetoric and shortsighted thinking.

Just like voting to end the drug war an educated population will vote for socialism. Of course education is needed. Education can beat back the mass propaganda about drugs and communism both of which were and are ideological targets in invented wars largely created by Americans. None of this is news to most conscious people.Of course despotic imperialist governments will resist these changes and seek to thwart democracy at every turn. You do understand that governments who claim to be the purveyors of democracy actually resist democracy with all of their collective resources right? 


Democracy and education =  socialism + decriminalization of drugs

                                              then

                            communism + legalization of drugs

Sound about right to you?




It's not about short sighted thinking, its about common sense. Give everyone the same amount of money no matter what they do...

Guy 1: A scientist finds the cure to aids is paid $30,000 a year.
Guy 2: A guy that sits on his couch all day is paid $30,000 a year.

This doesn't sound completely retarded to you? Really?




Communism is going to pay 30,000 dollars for people to sit around all day? Well people will definitely vote for that.

Your examples are base and tired rhetoric. They are simple scare crows also - logical fallacies.


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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 *DELETED* [Re: dondoodle]
    #10917309 - 08/23/09 01:27 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #10917389 - 08/23/09 01:39 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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a buddy of mine from japan told me that the last time he was over (like 2 years ago) a G of good nug was upwards of $75USD



holy fuck you have to be shitting me, thats lunacy


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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 [Re: Brian the Shroom]
    #10917501 - 08/23/09 02:00 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Please stop claiming what communism must do, you are simply repeating this made up shit as it has been fed to you. Your claims prove that you are no arbiter of what communism must be. Try relating your posts back to drugs because you are getting way off topic.

I can claim that you can never have a society that legalizes drugs because everyone will be high all the time and work will not get done. You are trying to make a very similar argument with what you call "communism."  Simply claiming something does not work ad nauseum does not make it true. Requesting me to give you some kind of example is impossible. There likely has never been a country in which the majority has had control over the means of production and I mean a just and democratic country when I talk about communism not some greedy capitalists.

I cant give you an example of something that never has existed unless of course you consider chile 1970 communism. The people voted for a open avowed marxist in 1970 and people will one day vote for a president who defends the rights of all people to do whatever drug they like, be it crack, heroine or methamphetamine. How long that takes is another issue though.


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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 *DELETED* [Re: dondoodle]
    #10917839 - 08/23/09 03:22 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Weed Growers Up 40.5% in Japan 2009 [Re: Brian the Shroom]
    #10918435 - 08/23/09 08:17 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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You talk like I'm just making this stuff up. You know communism has been attempted multiple times right? Did you see what happened to those countries?




No why dont you tell me the nice story that you have been fed, I have never heard it before, its so novel. 

Capitalism has imposed itself over the world have you seen what capitalist countries have done to less developed countries and areas? War murder, genocide and economic strangulation and general domination of other countries - imperialism in short.

The boogie man and same lies and scare tactics are used in the drug war and against communism the similarities abound -

"The Nation will fall apart"

"You have to sacrifice freedom because the alternative is much worse"

"The country will fall into economic ruin"

"Legalization of these new drugs can never be successful"

"The democratic will of the people must never be permitted because democracy is always bad becausse the people are stupid and always will be"

The drug prohibitionts can move right over to the political prohibition arena with ease. It's hardly a genius design the government has.

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