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My run in with the police last night, need advice.
#10904167 - 08/21/09 12:30 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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This may be a long read so bear with me because I'll tell the whole story.
Around 9:30 last night I parked my car across the street from a school parking lot and went into the field and smoked a blunt with some neighrborhood guys. After we were done we all parted ways, I walked to the front of the school where my girlfriend picked me up to go stop at the local convenient store.
After the store we drove back to my car and she kept going back to my house. I sit in my car, an undercover police car pulls right up behind me and scares the shit out of me(I thought it wasn't the police at first) He turns on his lights and steps out of his vehicle. Approaches me with an obvious stick in his ass about something. Instantly takes me out of my car and makes me spread my legs and keep my hands on my trunk while I tell him the story of why my car is there.
---My car was there because I drove half way to the convenient store and planned to walked the extra mile to stretch my left knee because my doctor told me to try and walk at least a mile befor my x ray the next day (today)
He didn't believe it at all, even though it was the truth. He starts touching my pockets so I said "I do not give you permission to search my person" so he slammed my head against my car and said shut the fuck up. He pulls out a dutch and probably .7 grams of weed. He then handcuffed me and proceeded to shit talk me saying I was a low life (riiight, you're the pig and I'm in college yet I'm a lowlife lol)
Anyway, he starts going through my phone and saw a picture of edible mushrooms I had snapped a picture of and then says "Are you on shrooms son!?" I said uh no. He then says "You fucked up big time tonight, your going to jail with posession and DUI" By now I had accepted the fact that I got shafted by the system and told him I was done answering questions and to lets get the show on the road (LET'S GO TO JAIL!) But he didn't take me, he just wanted to stand there and talk shit again. After 10 more minutes of shit talking while I just nod my head and said probably 20+ times "It's ok sir, just do your job" he stands me up after finding my prescription from my doctor for my knee x ray and decides to un cuff me and says every time he sees me driving, He will pull me over, when he sees me walking he will hassle me... from what he said I'm pretty sure he admitted he's going to harass me.
Now, I have cubes growing at my house, should I get rid of it all?
If I didn't get arrested and he said he let me go, I never signed anything, did I get cited or anything?
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
#10904203 - 08/21/09 12:35 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cops like that do not deserve to live.
I call harassment.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: 2end4]
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well that's my point, this fag patrols my neihgborhood apparently
The worst part about it, they needed 4 squad cars and 8 officers for less than a gram of marijuana. this is where my tax money is going?
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
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If you didn't sign your name on the affidavit then there is no charge against you. You could really fuck him if you wanted to for the unsubstantiated search, or you could not drive at all with any drugs on you, and let him pull you over and harass you a couple of times over the course of a couple months(if he really follows through on his promise). Record each instance, date, time, maybe even audio recordings of the stops, and then double-fuck him with harassment.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: 2end4]
#10904234 - 08/21/09 12:39 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Contact your local ACLU chapter.
If the cops are such assholes, I would get rid of my op as a precaution before doing any retaliation. Who knows what excuse they will use to try to gain entry into your house!
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: steadyheady]
#10904241 - 08/21/09 12:40 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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this is my plan, I believe he will definitely be pulling me over in the next few weeks just because he sees me. I have a tape recorder, if I record my next run in do I have to tell him he is being recorded?
For any reason should I be wary of a raid on my property? for a measly gram this guy must have had some one piss in his cheerios or something.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
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This thread would be better suited for Security and Safety, you should have it moved, you'll get better answers. It will also be easier to answer these questions if you include the location (City and State) in which it happened.
It definitely sounds like a threat of harassment, but without proof, you cant do anything (yet). You could always file a formal complaint against the officer if possible, but considering there was no arrest, it probably wont do any good. Then again, hes already apparently out to get you, so it wont make things worse. Im not sure about the cube grow, does he know where you live? Does he know your house? Do you have a security fence/no tresspassing signs?
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You could really fuck him if you wanted to for the unsubstantiated search, or you could not drive at all with any drugs on you, and let him pull you over and harass you a couple of times over the course of a couple months(if he really follows through on his promise). Record each instance, date, time, maybe even audio recordings of the stops, and then double-fuck him with harassment.
excellent advice in the quote as well.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
#10904261 - 08/21/09 12:44 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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No, I don't think its against the law to record the conversation with a cop, a lot of patrol cruisers have cameras on the dash.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: dr_gonz]
#10904262 - 08/21/09 12:44 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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well I had to tell him my address, so he can look into it. I didn't even get this cock suckers badge number, trust me I didn't want to say shit after he told me i'm being fucked so I figured hmm if I ask for the badge he really won't take it easy on me, I live in PA. the whole time all I was thinking was "Great, gotta contact norml and get a lawyer"
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
#10904268 - 08/21/09 12:46 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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you should report that cop to the police department, did you get the number on his badge or his name? he is allowed to frisk you permission or not but he can't search inside of anything else. and he did police brutality and an illegal search through your phone. so yeah, get his prick ass fired.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. (moved) [Re: PreparationH]
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
#10904286 - 08/21/09 12:48 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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what do I do about the fact that I have no name, no badge number, just the district he works for.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: steadyheady]
#10904289 - 08/21/09 12:49 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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steadyheady said: No, I don't think its against the law to record the conversation with a cop, a lot of patrol cruisers have cameras on the dash.
Im pretty sure, legally, you're supposed to inform them about a tape recorder. Its a double standard, im not 100%, but still pretty sure. I dont know if it would be accepted in court if you recorded it illegally, and thats the real question.
I'm not sure what to say about ditching the cube grow, on one hand, he could be waiting outside your house to pull you over, on another, he could lie to a judge for a warrant (he already knows there will probably be drugs present, prescription or not). Also, if you do get rid of them, do it carefully. You dont want him to see and you dont want to run the risk that hes a dumpster diving evidence collector. If it was me, I would get rid of them. Can always regrow more at a later date, the criminal record will be permanent.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
#10904304 - 08/21/09 12:52 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: what do I do about the fact that I have no name, no badge number, just the district he works for.
If you get a lawyer, maybe you can find out who was patrolling the area at the date and time. All that shit is kept on record.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: Methadone]
#10904306 - 08/21/09 12:52 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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well right now I have about 3 oz's of dried mushrooms, I'm about to buy a coffee grinder and conceal them in chocolate and break down the cultivation activity, put a recorder in my car, I'll even tell him he's being recorded just to keep him honest. Time to get rid of everything I guess.
Now, if I have all the equipment, even psilocybin spores, I'm ok in a raid correct? The only time it is illegal is when the actual fruit is produced right?
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
#10904312 - 08/21/09 12:53 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: what do I do about the fact that I have no name, no badge number, just the district he works for.
you say he patrols an area? next time the prick harrases you get the number then.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: elementswrath]
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yea he has this district I live in in my city, I am 100% sure this retard is going to pull me over and try and get me on something so I'm done traveling with drugs like weed, time to cook up my 3 ozs into chocolate and break down my greenhouse I suppose.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
#10904337 - 08/21/09 12:56 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: I'm ok in a raid correct? The only time it is illegal is when the actual fruit is produced right?
Once the spores leave the syringe and enter a growing medium, it becomes illegal.
If I were you, id keep the fruits somewhere else.
Also, find out if you can record him without his knowledge. It would be easier to get a case if you catch him being dishonest.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: Green_T]
#10904353 - 08/21/09 12:59 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was in shock of what had happened for a good two hours. I didn't feel like this was making the streets safer, I feel like I just got held up and robbed by a police officer for a gram of weed.
OHHH YEA! he asked me how much money I had on me I said about 40$, he said he only found 5. I said huh? how is that possible? He then jumped down my throat and said "Don't accuse me of things I didn't do" I never accused him of shit. My wallet he threw in my back seat with the other 35$. this was the largest dick head I have ever crossed paths with in my life.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
#10904355 - 08/21/09 01:00 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: yea he has this district I live in in my city, I am 100% sure this retard is going to pull me over and try and get me on something so I'm done traveling with drugs like weed, time to cook up my 3 ozs into chocolate and break down my greenhouse I suppose.
i suppose, if he wanted your adress i assume he wants to try and get a search warrant. but he has no valid reason to do so, but yeah i think you should pack up the green house and wait a month.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: elementswrath]
#10904485 - 08/21/09 01:21 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just left a message with the ACLU. message said they will call me back with in a week.
The tape recorder though, if I warn him of the recording, and he doesn't find anything on me, he'll just lie on the report and say he pulled me over for a traffic violation.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
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what if he just took the recorder and breaks it?
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
#10904511 - 08/21/09 01:27 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: what if he just took the recorder and breaks it?
if he pulls you over keep the recorder near your car door and as you pretend to open the door just flip it on and open your door and get out, also leave the window open so it will be able to hear the conversation.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: elementswrath]
#10904522 - 08/21/09 01:29 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks for the info, time to go tape the recorder to my door.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: elementswrath]
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Even if you do record him illegally (im pretty sure thats not possible), your attorney could use the tape to show the judge if he makes false statements in court. Even if the jury doesn't hear it but he lies, as long as the judge hears it he can charge him with perjury i think.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: Green_T]
#10904735 - 08/21/09 02:03 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just got off the phone with norml, one of their lawyers is going to also call me back. I'm going to break down my grow and hopefully have this cop fuck with me while being recorded. Thanks for the advice everyone.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: dr_gonz]
#10904807 - 08/21/09 02:15 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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it was the first time I had ever seen him anyway. But I called my dealer and told him and he said that's the same pig(it must be he thiks) that harasses him all the time but can't pin shit on him so he said good luck with everything because he hasn't let up on him and it's been about 6 months since they had their first run in with one another.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: dr_gonz]
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na hairs at my ears. school starts monday for me so I'll be traveling out of my city and his jurisdiction from 8 AM til 2 pm daily so that should keep me out of some trouble I hope, and the fact that that shit was a wake up call. I had removed a half oz of mushrooms from my car about 45 minutes befor this went down so that had me briething a sigh of relief when I knew all I had was less then one gram of weed. just pisses me off he acted like I raped his grandmother or somethin, w/e life goes on and he's a cop, maybe he'll get shot the fuck up one day.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
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PreparationH said: He then handcuffed me and proceeded to shit talk me saying I was a low life (riiight, you're the pig and I'm in college yet I'm a lowlife lol)
Anyway, he starts going through my phone and saw a picture of edible mushrooms I had snapped a picture of and then says "Are you on shrooms son!?"
take 2 friends and a video camera to the police station, get the paperwork to file a complaint against the officer, mail it back to them via certified mail after you make a couple of copies for yourself, mention that the cop treated you in a disrespectful manner, violated your rights against illegal search and seizure and your right to privacy threatened you with arrest and harassment in the future
record the visit to the police station, they may try to intimidate you into not filing a complaint, dont give them any information other than your request for a complaint form no matter what they say
carry a voice recorder at the minimum on your person, activate it anytime a cop stops you and record the conversation, dont allow him to intimidate you into giving it up or turning it off, of course check your state laws... any time that cop pulls you over, file a complaint for everything he says/does
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: Prisoner#1]
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how can I figure out this cops badge number? I know he is undercover in a silver ford taurus, but I can't see the police at my district giving me his name. or will they?
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
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Those type of undercover cops arent the same as full time "deep cover" cops who assume an identity and infiltrate organizations.
They are regular cops who do mufti/plainclothes patrols on some days. Asking who the cop was wouldn't be "blowing their cover" or anything.
That being said, I dont see why you couldnt find out who it was if they identified themselves as a cop. Check with a lawyer and see if they can find out.
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supernovasky said: Get rid of the cubes, and you DEFINITELY have a harassment case. I'm talking get the guy fired and possibly get some money sort of case. Claim damages from him not letting you walk that mile on the leg, emotional hardship... and a lawyer for this one shouldn't be all that expensive, considering it's a fairly clear cut case.
lol, what?
What would you sue for?
How would you defeat qualified immunity?
In my opinion, you can't- not even close.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
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Now this is gonna sound kinda strange but let me tell you a story. A long time ago back in 92 I was caught up in meth real bad i got pulled over by this cop who just harassed the living hell outa me, scared the shit out of me, didn't want any info or anything just scared me, so I dried up and 6 months later I find out this cop knew my dad and was trying to make sure I didn't get caught up in the impending bust that happened two weeks later. I later found out they got busted for some really fucked up shit and I'm actually kinda thankful he did what he did. The moral of the story is don't always assume that the cops a dick cause he might just be trying to save your ass. On the other hand he could just be a complete fuckstick and you should nail his ass to the floor of a burning building. just use your best judgement if he harasses you then get em.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: Green_T]
#10929357 - 08/24/09 07:58 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm probably walking into a shit storm here but here's the reality and the view point of someone interested in law enforcement:
You're doing drugs on school property. And you think you're SMARTER than an officer who is upholding the law. I don't think HE personally gives a fuck if you're smoking weed or even where you smoke it. But the fact still remains that you're touting as this superior/smart kid in college, yet you fail to realize you have drugs in a school zone. You might as well bend over and spread your butt cheeks, homie. 3-5 Mile radius anywhere on school grounds = hot meat injection in jail. So take a step back and reflect; Who's the idiot here? BTW, cops undergo extensive training and most Dept's don't hire anyone without a college degree.
Also, he doesn't need permission to search you. He has probable cause. It sounds to me like you might have been a smart ass and not the poor, innocent victim you portray yourself to be. Perhaps if you were more respectful and said yes sir/no sir without copping a fuckin attitude he might have even let you go there. I know several cops who have ripped open whole BRICKS of weed and let the guy go after dumping it down a drain. The key is to play nice.
Did he issue you a summons or just entirely let you go?
Police are assholes to strike fear into people to control the situation and to intimidate any criminals so they're less likely to be violent and dishonest. Don't lie, you were scared. We all would be.
If he let you go, you should be kissing the floor. You don't need to get rid of your mushrooms since they don't have enough evidence to prove the picture was taken in your house to obtain a search warrant.
BUT considering on how dumb you've been acting, I would have already expected you to have kept your mushrooms regardless of them having enough probable cause to search your house.
Change the attitude, bro. As much as you hate pigs, you need them to prevent your little sister from being raped, crack/heroin being slung on the block, robbers from B&E your shit and much more. Yeah they're not fun to deal with when you're on the wrong side of the law, but then again Why the Fuck are YOU mad, YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAW, DUMMY.
Smoke at your house, don't carry shit on your person. Make better decisions and you won't have anyone harrassing you. Myself included. You can go ahead and flame me if you can't bare to admit you made a few poor choices and need to be vindicated by slamming me back. But that won't change a thing and it definitely won't help you in the future. The only reason I wrote this shit is to open your eyes so you'll learn and you won't get fucked over later on down the road.
Moral of the story: don't be a fucking idiot and use that big, smart college brain of yours.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: po0dingles]
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One more thing: Why do you have to go after him? For revenge? Would that make you feel like a big man? You're going to file a complaint for being LET GO? Do you even REALIZE WHAT YOU'RE DOING?! You're going to make a cop, who already has a wild hair up his ass, even LESS FORGIVING.
He should have arrested you right there on the spot. But despite the shit talking that he gave you and calling your shit as it is, you get mad and want to one up him. I'm sorry bro but that's straight up bitch on your part. He cut you a break, maybe you should cut your losses for being stupid and give him one, too.
Now because you can't take a little slap on the wrist and get a little roughed up, you're going to file a complaint so the next time he catches someone else (perhaps your drug dealer, or someone else who is doing something dumb) he's going to rip them apart and make sure the charges stick because he's pissed off that some little piss ant filed a complaint.
Man up and take your punishment as deserved. You got off easy.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: po0dingles]
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He has smething in his words ^
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
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Now, if I have all the equipment, even psilocybin spores, I'm ok in a raid correct? The only time it is illegal is when the actual fruit is produced right?
conspiracy or intent to manufacture I believe. get rid of all of it, or keep it at a trustworthy friends house.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: dstark]
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po0dingles said: I'm probably walking into a shit storm here but here's the reality and the view point of someone interested in law enforcement:
You're doing drugs on school property. And you think you're SMARTER than an officer who is upholding the law. I don't think HE personally gives a fuck if you're smoking weed or even where you smoke it. But the fact still remains that you're touting as this superior/smart kid in college, yet you fail to realize you have drugs in a school zone. You might as well bend over and spread your butt cheeks, homie. 3-5 Mile radius anywhere on school grounds = hot meat injection in jail. So take a step back and reflect; Who's the idiot here? BTW, cops undergo extensive training and most Dept's don't hire anyone without a college degree.
Also, he doesn't need permission to search you. He has probable cause. It sounds to me like you might have been a smart ass and not the poor, innocent victim you portray yourself to be. Perhaps if you were more respectful and said yes sir/no sir without copping a fuckin attitude he might have even let you go there. I know several cops who have ripped open whole BRICKS of weed and let the guy go after dumping it down a drain. The key is to play nice.
Did he issue you a summons or just entirely let you go?
Police are assholes to strike fear into people to control the situation and to intimidate any criminals so they're less likely to be violent and dishonest. Don't lie, you were scared. We all would be.
If he let you go, you should be kissing the floor. You don't need to get rid of your mushrooms since they don't have enough evidence to prove the picture was taken in your house to obtain a search warrant.
BUT considering on how dumb you've been acting, I would have already expected you to have kept your mushrooms regardless of them having enough probable cause to search your house.
Change the attitude, bro. As much as you hate pigs, you need them to prevent your little sister from being raped, crack/heroin being slung on the block, robbers from B&E your shit and much more. Yeah they're not fun to deal with when you're on the wrong side of the law, but then again Why the Fuck are YOU mad, YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAW, DUMMY.
Smoke at your house, don't carry shit on your person. Make better decisions and you won't have anyone harrassing you. Myself included. You can go ahead and flame me if you can't bare to admit you made a few poor choices and need to be vindicated by slamming me back. But that won't change a thing and it definitely won't help you in the future. The only reason I wrote this shit is to open your eyes so you'll learn and you won't get fucked over later on down the road.
Moral of the story: don't be a fucking idiot and use that big, smart college brain of yours. 
might be right in someway. If you break the law and didnt get caught, then why try to fuck the cops?! you know what u did was wrong...
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: dstark]
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Maybe...juuuuust maybe....we could put our hands up when we've fucked up and say, "Ya know what...I fucked up. I made a shitty mistake and it was a poor choice on my part. I wasn't thinking." Owning up, being a man, being responsible. That's something that deserves respect.
But people are defensive these days and they ALWAYS have to be right. And to take it a step further to have the 'i'll show you' attitude is just childish. It shows that you're angry that someone has the upper hand on you and you want to even the score, but the score was already even by him letting you go!
It's OKAY to make mistakes and admit to wrong doing. What the fuck is so horrible about that? To deny making mistakes is to think you're perfect. And after reading your follies with the law, I'm sure no one thinks you are...
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: po0dingles]
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Poodingles is right. The cop let you go, he could have been a real dick and arrested you. Drug free school zones are no joke, zero tolerance and much harsher penalties. Sure he is going to be a dick and try to scare you a little bit, but he had mercy on your ass.
If he ever pulls you over, show him respect for not ruining your life - because he could have. If this cop was a real fuck, he would have arrested you.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: po0dingles]
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po0dingles said: Also, he doesn't need permission to search you. He has probable cause.
What was his justification for probable cause? i would like to know, especially from someone interested in law enforcement.
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As much as you hate pigs, you need them to prevent your little sister from being raped
Cops don't stop crime, only arrest people and do things after crime happens. One of my female friends was in an abusive relationship for a long time. She has a restraining order on her old boyfriend. He comes by every once in a while. She calls the cops, but they get there after he leaves, and they simply say, we can't do anything until we catch him breaking the law. He had just finished breaking the restraining order, and said he is going to be back tonight, cops response, call me when he comes back, if he is here, then we will arrest him. In the end, no cop is going to stop your sister from being raped, only react to the rape, and possibly make an arrest.
As far as filing a complaint, i was not there so don't know what truly went down, but the way i read it he had no probable cause. If this really is the case OP, i would definitely file a complaint, since your rights were trampled on..whether he let you go or not, he doesn't have the power to violate your rights, at least not legally. Now if he did follow all standards and processes and still let you go, i agree with po0dingles, count yourself lucky and just let it go.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: supra]
#10944671 - 08/26/09 09:16 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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po0dingles said: Also, he doesn't need permission to search you. He has probable cause.
What was his justification for probable cause? i would like to know, especially from someone interested in law enforcement.
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As much as you hate pigs, you need them to prevent your little sister from being raped
Cops don't stop crime, only arrest people and do things after crime happens. One of my female friends was in an abusive relationship for a long time. She has a restraining order on her old boyfriend. He comes by every once in a while. She calls the cops, but they get there after he leaves, and they simply say, we can't do anything until we catch him breaking the law. He had just finished breaking the restraining order, and said he is going to be back tonight, cops response, call me when he comes back, if he is here, then we will arrest him. In the end, no cop is going to stop your sister from being raped, only react to the rape, and possibly make an arrest.
As far as filing a complaint, i was not there so don't know what truly went down, but the way i read it he had no probable cause. If this really is the case OP, i would definitely file a complaint, since your rights were trampled on..whether he let you go or not, he doesn't have the power to violate your rights, at least not legally. Now if he did follow all standards and processes and still let you go, i agree with po0dingles, count yourself lucky and just let it go.
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1) HE WATCHED HIM WALK OFF OF PRIVATE PROPERTY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT--A SCHOOL NO LESS. Police can pat people down for their own safety. It's not like the kid was minding his own business on a sunny afternoon walking down the sidewalk. He parked his car, at night, next to a school. There's absolutely no reason for his car to be there. So I would say that would be suspicious activity/prowling/tresspassing/driving under the influence... Take your pick!
2) You can't say that police don't prevent crime. There are a ton of factors that you haven't considered.
Police mostly use sirens for high priority situations. Studies are being done to see if they can use sirens more often to deter crime while they're on the way to other locations.
Here's an example: Some asshole, probably preparation h's brother or cousin, is high on meth and is breaking into someone's house. A police car, sirens blaring, races past that house. There's a chance that guy stopped what he was doing and fled the scene. I don't have any evidence to support this, but it makes sense. But of course there's no evidence for crimes prevented because there's no way to measure that.
Police have specific routes they patrol. No they can't stop all crime from happening and YES they're always there AFTER a crime has been commited because that's also their job. File a report and pass it off to detectives. But simply patrolling an area greatly reduces chances of B&E's and Auto burglary/theft. Police presence definitely helps. Let me ask you: when you're flying down the highway doing 80 and you see a state trooper on the side of the road, don't you slam on your brakes? Why? Because you don't want to get caught.
3) The abusive relationship: Unfortunately cops aren't bodyguards. They can't sit out on the stoop of a doorstep and wait for someone to come. They have other shit to do.
The girl who is in the abusive relationship only needs to whip out a video camera and tell the perp to leave the property. Turn the tape over to the cops and now you have physical evidence of a crime being commited.
As for the cops not showing up in time for the rape victim...I can understand and sympathize. But she can use her 2nd ammendment right if she's afraid or know she's in danger:

She doesn't have to answer the door or even open it. Look through a window or peephole and call the cops. If he breaks in, shoot him in the face. Even shoot him while you're on the phone with the cops, yell stop! no! and then blast him. It's all recorded.
4)I'm not convinced his rights were violated. Police are hired to make judgement calls. All the bleeding heart liberals who go overboard about civil rights need to open their eyes and try putting the shoe on the other foot. If this kid was just finishing up breaking into your house and stole your flat screen, wouldn't you want a vigilant cop to cut through all the bullshit and get your shit back? Making too much red tape begins to make MORE problems for protecting the innocent rather than securing their rights. Making cops jump through hoops sucks. My father CAUGHT a burglar in my house robbing us blind. It was a kid who used to house sit for us when we went on vacation. My father came home from work one day and caught the sob in their upstairs bedroom with a bag full of jewelry. He fled. My father fingered him as the guy but BECAUSE OF ALL THE REDTAPE BULLSHIT, THE COPS COULDN'T GO TO THE FAGGOTS HOUSE AND GET OUR SHIT BACK. He got rid of it before the cops could do ANYTHING. Mostly family heirlooms. So who do those anti search laws really protect?
And, by the way, this boy genius who managed to make it into college, something that any D student can accomplish, doesn't even realize a drug charge would probably fuck up his future when he tries to get job. Background checks last a loooooong time.
Why does everyone assume every single cop out there is abusing his or her power? I'd love, just ONCE, for someone to say, ya know what maybe the cop knew wtf he was doing instead of taking the word of some fucking IDIOT and making this into a huge civil rights/police brutality issue. The kid broke several laws. Stop trying to defending him.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: po0dingles]
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Also they make people afraid of making craime xd
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: dstark]
#10946734 - 08/27/09 06:15 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Agreed. I'm not riding the dicks of cops. I'm just saying don't act like the victim when you've obviously fucked up.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: po0dingles]
#10955810 - 08/28/09 03:20 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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po0dingles, I would disagree with you on most of your points, but this thread isn't about your rants.
To the OP... You got fucked and lucky in the same night. You SHOULD go after that cop, but right now you don't have any sort of a case (in the real world). You should go after him because he is a piece of shit with no business having a gun or a badge. He will violate hundreds of people before he's caught, if ever.
Finding the cop is easy, just call the cop shop with the date and time and ask who the cop was. Many departments have dispatch logs online or publicly available. If they don't cooperate then file a FOIA form. Most cop shops are used to these and have them on hand. It's not difficult. You can also file a form for the cop cam footage.
If you do this there's a couple ways it can go. #1 he'll find out and he WILL try to make trouble for you. Cops beat people up and even kill them all the time with no repercussions to themselves. Watch the movie training day. What they do in real life makes that movie look like it should be rated PG-13.
One thing that WILL happen is that your FOIA request gets reviewed. The cop may then get fired or busted. OTOH you may well get charged from the footage review.
So if I was your lawyer I would highly advise you to count your blessings and do nothing. OTOH if you do nothing he gets away, continutes to violate others, and may fuck with you in the future.
One idea we came up with here for recording cops is to get a small sticker saying something like "This area monitored with audio and video sureveilance". You see those at gas stations all the time and I've never heard of them getting in trouble for recording anything.
Another way to find the cop is wait for shift change. You'll see all the cops come and go along with what car they're in. Use his plate number to call and find out his name or badge number.
I know a guy who documented his harrassment for some time. He came up with many instances of unwarranted pull-overs and threatened to sue the city. So they tagged his file with something like "lawsuit potentially in progress, advise no contact". He never got pulled over again. As soon as they ran his plates they would break off and leave them be. Cops know that getting caught up in a harrassment suit may cost them their job if the citizen wins.
Anyhow, at least document things and build a case. If they keep harrassing you or you get something that presents a real case you can then take it further. If you run down to the copshop demanding back your illegally found and confiscated weed or file a complaint I think you know what will happen.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: fastfred]
#10956750 - 08/28/09 05:39 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Agreed. I'm not riding the dicks of cops. I'm just saying don't act like the victim when you've obviously fucked up.
I think you are a narc.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
#10961102 - 08/29/09 12:39 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thats a decision that should be left up to you. but i would get rid of them cuz if he is an asshole and decides 2 fuck u. your fucked
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: fastfred]
#10961933 - 08/29/09 03:33 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not familiar with FOIA forms, but then again I've never head of "cop shops" either. FOIA forms will only give you the officer's information but will not be useful as evidence of any sort.
Lets back up a moment here. The kid didn't sustain any type of real abuse other than verbal. I don't think he had a bruse or a cut from the 'banging of the head' part ortherwise he'd be moaning about brutality.
An officer will only get fired/busted after an investigation through internal affairs if the dept. feels its necessary and there's enough of a story to warrant an investigation. Even then, it's hard to tell what will come of it.
I find it humorous if anyone takes what you said seriously. You're now comparing real life to an action movie.
The only way PreparationH can 'catch' the cop is by videotaping the officer doing something illegal or against dept policy. I agree with the documentation and casebuilding.
So here's what you do. Fill your pockets full of weed, fried chicken, watermelon and 40's. Go to a school, maybe this time INSIDE the school, and smoke the place out. Call the cops and have your video camera. You got this man. It's just like in the movies!
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: po0dingles]
#10967363 - 08/30/09 04:40 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not familiar with FOIA forms, but then again I've never head of "cop shops" either. FOIA forms will only give you the officer's information but will not be useful as evidence of any sort.
OK, you just need to stop right now. You don't need to be giving legal advice if you're not familiar with basics like Freedom Of Information Act requests or think that evidence obtained from the government can't be used in a court.
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Lets back up a moment here. The kid didn't sustain any type of real abuse other than verbal.
It always amazes me how much fascist police state bullshit people are willing to put up with.
You're the same ignorant fool that would tell a Jew they've not suffered for "just having to wear a simple star on their shirt".
But if we've learned anything from history it's that we DON'T learn from history and it inevitably repeats it's self.
Maybe you read a different story, but the way I read it the OP suffered harassment, intimidation, verbal, mental, and physical abuse. His civil rights were violated, he was illegally searched, and illegally detained followed by being threatened. Apparently the cop also stole or attempted to steal his money and did steal his weed.
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An officer will only get fired/busted after an investigation through internal affairs if the dept. feels its necessary and there's enough of a story to warrant an investigation.
Again you show your ignorance and make it sound like everything you know is from TV cop dramas.
Unless you live in a large city there is no internal affairs. Cops are brought to justice through lawsuits or the prosecutor or police chief settles it.
When you file an FOIA the data you request (at least for cop video) is reviewed by the city attorney or prosecutor. So if you request something which shows a crime you've placed a video directly on the desk of the prosecutor or city attorney. From there it can go anywhere. Plenty of times it will result in charges or disciplinary action. Often the request will result in them telling you the data is lost or destroyed or the camera wasn't on, etc. But the cop will "mysteriously" be busted down to a meter maid.
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I find it humorous if anyone takes what you said seriously.
LOL! I know exactly how the process works and I've filed several FOIAs. Luckily my local cop shop (aka police station if you don't have a clue) has their own form on hand. I've had the cop involved get disciplined when they claimed that the camera wasn't on, and I've also had a friend get his charges increased for stupidly requesting tape showing his guilt. He could have simply pled to the charge but somehow thought the tape would clear him. Instead the city attorney found a couple more charges they hadn't written up, and normally they don't bother to check the video if they already have a decent case.
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The only way PreparationH can 'catch' the cop is by videotaping the officer doing something illegal or against dept policy.
Fortunately they probably already taped it for him. They've since certainly lost or destroyed the weed or never turned it in. So he's home free on that charge. There's no real downside to getting the tape except it will probably cost around $100.
Even if you simply request it they will prepare it and you might get justice in the process without ever actually having to pay for the copy. All FOIA requests for cop tapes are reviewed by the city attorney for them to cut out parts they determine violates privacy or some other law for them to release it.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: fastfred]
#10984688 - 09/02/09 06:06 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Alright fred. No need to get your panties in a twist just because I don't agree with you. That's just silly and doesn't help your argument at all.
Once again, you're frantically trying to defend someone who already admitted guilt to something really, really dumb. I'm not saying he shouldn't have rights, I'm just saying why are you trying so fucking hard to defend someone who makes such retarded decisions? Let him stick a fork in the socket! HE'LL LEARN!
I'm not sure how you think I'm basing my knowledge on Cop TV shows when you've already made reference to TRAINING DAY. Do you think you're an attorney because you've filled out some FOIFA forms? I never said gov. docs won't convict him in court, I'm just saying it's dumb to even go that far and get that involved for something he already GOT AWAY WITH. There's 2 sides to every coin, and while I've noticed you've made a few good points, your complete refusal to see any thing else is why your arguments don't hold water. Why else would you be so defensive of where I obtained my info from, yet made the assumption that real life is just like something you saw in a movie. Pot: meet black kettle.
I think you're flying way off the handle by calling me a fascist too. Just because I believe a guilty kid deserves to be either fucked with (temporarily) or thrown in jail, doesn't mean I support a police state.
I do, however fully support common sense and intelligence! THINKING before you act and having common sense doesn't require a Juris Doctor or even an "amazing" bachelor's degree either. So fuck what you know (or think you know) about the law.
Also, I'd like to hear how YOU, as an officer of the law, would approach the situation. Don't "cop out" and say you'd never be in that situation. Using your own logic and reasoning skills, which you've convinced yourself of being an expert at, how would you have handled that exact situation as a cop? Where you KNEW the kid was guilty and you KNEW you could have put him away but chose not to. Perhaps a stern warning? Hmm.
Police use intimidation to control many situations. It's not illegal and it helps ensure safety. I've never had MY head bashed against a car. I've been pulled over countless times, sat with detectives, been interrogated, etc. As long as you're respectful, you won't be harmed. This kid's just a fucking tool and he asked for it.
I wasn't originally trying to disrespect you, I was just simply asking questions and making points that I'm sure many of you don't want to face. What's wrong with that? More importantly, you're going to bash me for it? It's funny that you're overly accomodating a criminal rather than taking the situation at face value. This isn't a civil rights issue, a 9/11 conspiracy, or a rodney king beating.
Based on the garbage you're spewing, I'm almost certain you're one of those ultra left wing dipshits who would rule in favor of a burglar who broke his leg on someone's footsteps trying to steal a bunch of their shit. Me: I'd rather sit somewhere in the middle. But people like you make me fucking sick.
In the end, you can argue and banter all you want, but you can't polish a turd.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
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doesn't sound like a story from a guy that lives in Amsterdam.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: po0dingles]
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> As long as you're respectful, you won't be harmed.
That simply is not true. It may be true 99.999% of the time, but it is that 1 in 10000 that bites somebody. There was a case here not long ago where a naked man swimming in the ocean was shot to death by a cop... he was "approaching the officer in a threatening manner". Witnesses say that isn't true, that the cop started shooting for no reason. Cop got off without any charges filed. One story of many... almost all cops are good, decent people trying to do a difficult job... but there are certainly spoiled apples in the bunch that take advantage of the blue shield and abuse their authority. They might be rare, but they most certainly do exist...
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said: > As long as you're respectful, you won't be harmed.
That simply is not true. It may be true 99.999% of the time, but it is that 1 in 10000 that bites somebody. There was a case here not long ago where a naked man swimming in the ocean was shot to death by a cop... he was "approaching the officer in a threatening manner". Witnesses say that isn't true, that the cop started shooting for no reason. Cop got off without any charges filed. One story of many... almost all cops are good, decent people trying to do a difficult job... but there are certainly spoiled apples in the bunch that take advantage of the blue shield and abuse their authority. They might be rare, but they most certainly do exist...
Well put and I can fully agree with what you've said. There is some corruption, but definitely not like its seen in movies and TV. Because of potential law suits, departments don't protect their own as vigilantly as they once used to when a couple million dollars is at stake.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: po0dingles]
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po0dingles said: But she can use her 2nd ammendment right if she's afraid or know she's in danger:
nice try, but not everyone lives in a free state. 2nd amendment means nothing in california.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: danielx]
#10994438 - 09/03/09 07:18 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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po0dingles said: But she can use her 2nd ammendment right if she's afraid or know she's in danger:
nice try, but not everyone lives in a free state. 2nd amendment means nothing in california.
Lol, you expect me to come up with alternative answers to everyone's "what if?" ?? Fucking move or sew your holes closed. lol
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: po0dingles]
#11000813 - 09/04/09 07:28 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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so thats your response to any girl raped in california? Sew yourself up or move to a free state.
congrats
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: danielx]
#11001092 - 09/04/09 08:16 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was being sarcastic. How about I come back in a week with a 'what a girl should do when faced with rape' in all 50 states?
I'm done here.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: po0dingles]
#11001449 - 09/04/09 09:15 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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po0dingles said: I'm done here.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: supra]
#11023912 - 09/08/09 08:25 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank god!
Seuss... most cops are not "good". The professions attracts sickos like flies to shit. The majority of cops are either corrupt or are willing to cover for the ones who are.
There's really no reason to take a low paying job with little respect unless you have a sick desire to bully people.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: fastfred]
#11024742 - 09/08/09 10:43 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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you already got away with it... let it go.
what if you file all these reports and complaints and end up getting charged for possession because the video that you asked for shows you holding .7 grams?
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: xTJx]
#11025184 - 09/09/09 12:11 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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xTJx said: what if you file all these reports and complaints and end up getting charged for possession because the video that you asked for shows you holding .7 grams?
They can't charge him dumbass, they don't have the evidence. You can't prove it's weed from a shitty cop cam video.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: fastfred]
#11025852 - 09/09/09 06:13 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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fastfred said: Thank god!
Seuss... most cops are not "good". The professions attracts sickos like flies to shit. The majority of cops are either corrupt or are willing to cover for the ones who are.
There's really no reason to take a low paying job with little respect unless you have a sick desire to bully people.
-FF
(Personal Friend of mine:) NYPD, 3rd year, $73k annual earnings from all the paid OT he got. Pention for 60% pay at the end of a 20 year career with a 5 year drop plan which basically gives double pay and you're forced to leave at the 5th year. You call that bad pay? You would walk out of there with $500k+ in the bank, plus your normal pay you got for those 5 years, PLUS a pention for the rest of your life, PLUS Social security should you be awarded it.
How much are you making flipping burgers? Go back to Law and Order or CSI or whatever the fuck you watch.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: po0dingles]
#11028160 - 09/09/09 03:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Guess my area is kind of low. But $45K is the average cop salary. Not too bad I guess.
Anyhow, you sure have an attitude po0dingles. For someone who's been around less than a month and is clearly ignorant on most aspects of the law you should show a little respect. Just because I've had to correct most of your posts here doesn't mean you should get nasty about it.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: po0dingles]
#11028170 - 09/09/09 03:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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fastfred said: Thank god!
Seuss... most cops are not "good". The professions attracts sickos like flies to shit. The majority of cops are either corrupt or are willing to cover for the ones who are.
There's really no reason to take a low paying job with little respect unless you have a sick desire to bully people.
-FF
(Personal Friend of mine:) NYPD, 3rd year, $73k annual earnings from all the paid OT he got. Pention for 60% pay at the end of a 20 year career with a 5 year drop plan which basically gives double pay and you're forced to leave at the 5th year. You call that bad pay? You would walk out of there with $500k+ in the bank, plus your normal pay you got for those 5 years, PLUS a pention for the rest of your life, PLUS Social security should you be awarded it.
How much are you making flipping burgers? Go back to Law and Order or CSI or whatever the fuck you watch.
with new york cost of living your friend is broke. 
in all seriousness, we pay them 73k a year to harass us? No wonder americas fucked.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: Anonymous #2]
#11075663 - 09/17/09 09:53 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is why you're so angry "HE WATCHED HIM WALK OFF OF PRIVATE PROPERTY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT--A SCHOOL NO LESS."
For clarification purposes, although it is beating a dead horse, I was not on school property when this all happened, I was on the main road accross the street from the school, I had actually not even stepped foot on the school property in over an hour at that point, you seem to have made up some scenarios in your head boy.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
#11132012 - 09/26/09 02:42 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you want clarification, how about we understand that I'm not angry over you being on school property. If I'm frustrated over anything, it's at how fucking DENSE you are.
No matter what I fucking say to you, you'll never open your fucking eyes. With HERCULEAN STRENGTH, you've fought tooth and nail to purge ANY INTELLIGENT IDEA out of your head. And instead of realizing you fucked up, you instead try and get even because you're mentally incapable of acknowledging irresponsibility. You're just lost fucking cause bro. It's everyone else's fault right? Blame ME now while you're at it.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: po0dingles]
#11136001 - 09/27/09 07:53 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Has anyone here actually got a harassment/misconduct case to stick against a LEO?
When I was a bit younger, walking from a friends house with some weed on me there was a burglary near by. I didn't know what was going on and apparently I "fit the description" of the guy they were looking for and 2 cops started running at me (there was a dry retention pond between us, about a football fields distance) and yelling. Being 17 at the time and very stupid I ran because I had weed on me and didn't know anything of the burglary yet. I knew the area well and could have easily lost them in the trails, but one pulled out his firearm and discharged it in the air apparently, I wasn't looking where he was pointing it as I was running at the time but I didn't see/hear any impact near me.
Of course I dive to the ground and give up running at this point. I was scared shitless of these redneck fucks shooting off guns like they're fucking cowboys. They arrest me blah blah. The cop put in his statement that "[I.] reached into [my] pocket and turned around" so he fired a "warning shot" into the air. Funny enough, another cop at booking while doing inventory on my possessions asked me how much money was in my wallet and said "$40 right" when really I had like $90 something. I corrected him and he said "just making sure you're paying attention." Cops in that town were awful.
After filing some reports the cop ending up getting like a week suspension and that's all. I could have probably went further if I had a lawyer but I can't afford one at 17 and didn't think of looking for pro bono work at that age. Point being I don't see anything much coming from a harassment charge just by filing a report. If you had a lawyer maybe, but no lawyer will do such a small issue pro bono and even the cheapest are a few grand these days.
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Re: My run in with the police last night, need advice. [Re: PreparationH]
#11137742 - 09/27/09 03:01 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: well right now I have about 3 oz's of dried mushrooms, I'm about to buy a coffee grinder and conceal them in chocolate and break down the cultivation activity, put a recorder in my car, I'll even tell him he's being recorded just to keep him honest. Time to get rid of everything I guess.
Now, if I have all the equipment, even psilocybin spores, I'm ok in a raid correct? The only time it is illegal is when the actual fruit is produced right?
You would almost certainly NOT be ok, assuming you live in the USA under federal jurisdiction, and you've been given some very bad personal opinions in this thread as practical advice that are not applicable to law when attempting to press legal matters against law enforcement.
I'm a bit disheartened to see many folk tell you to press a lawsuit BEFORE telling you to ditch your grow; but if you are planning to attempt to hit a police, who caught you with a controlled substance, WITHOUT ditching ANYTHING incriminating around you, don't.
It seems like you are dealing with an asshole. If you choose to take this to court, (I'm assuming this is not an urban-environment prejudice), you will likely expose yourself to more scrutiny and noticability than you would likely want on the hands of the judicial system and the law enforcement branches in your area.
If he has an attractive legal-age child, fuck the child.
Really though, think carefully, and if you are going to expose yourself be ABSOLUTELY sure you have nothing exposed.
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