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fatherg
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how can i make a trip last longer
#10900241 - 08/20/09 08:29 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have had a lot of great trips both on high dose's of mushrooms and standard doses, but i can never seem to get a Tripp to last longer then 3 hours or so. I have tried liberty caps, and psilocybe cubensis. both are wonderful but even taking 5 dried grams i cant seem to get past 3 hours or tripping (they were cubes in chocolate form) :P. i enjoy tea since it hits you quicker then most methods but it also seems to leave the quickest i find. so any ideas or tips . would greatly be appreciated.
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: fatherg]
#10900249 - 08/20/09 08:29 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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raw cacao
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: Shrazoom]
#10900314 - 08/20/09 08:37 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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usually dosages in the 7 gram range last me at least 5 hours.. the only thing i can suggest if ur drinkin tea... spread out dosages over an hour to hour and a half range
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: Shrazoom]
#10900388 - 08/20/09 08:43 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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The whole trip, or just the "trippin" part of it( commonly refered to as the peak )
3 hrs = about standard for me too.
Maybe 4-5 on a bigger dose..... sometimes only 1-2 hrs on low-end dosage.
Besides any kind of additive.
RE-DOSE.
Eat some more of those suckers.
Tea seems to come on faster, and also come down faster too..... Try, 3 grams in tea..... followed by 2-3 grams eaten whole after about 1 hour, or once you feel the peak hitting a "plateu" or a leveling off of effect.
Kinda like a roller coaster once you get your own personal metabolism/digestion thing worked out.
you come up, trip hard.... start to taper off, dose up and ride it up again, start to taper off, dose up and ride it up again........... etc etc
There DOES seem to be a point of diminishing returns AKA you need to eat more and more frequently as you go along.... but the first and second re-dose = 2 grams is felt.
For the few people who dont think re-dosing works.... try it again. be methodical. I was a skeptic until I tried it.
I wouldnt wait until baseline and THEN try to dose again......
But if you dose it up, giving yourself enough time to digest and metabolize and then re-dose accordingly..... it works. trip all day long.
Another pretty cool way to re-dose.... but it helps to be familiar with the strength of your shrooms..... eat a average dose..... then AS SOON as trip effects are felt.... dose another. You will trip VERY hard..... but have less stomach problems( if prone ) AND extend(and intensify) the peak. PLUS come up anxiety on the second dose.... non-existant( for me ).
Anyway, that was a reallly long way to say :
"Re-dosing = best way to stay tripping longer without additives."
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: Shad0w]
#10900453 - 08/20/09 08:50 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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at exactly what point do you re-dose?
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: fatherg]
#10900507 - 08/20/09 08:57 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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try acid, or mescaline...
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: Shad0w]
#10900530 - 08/20/09 09:00 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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all together from start to come down 3 hours tops. but ill def have to try redoseing according to how you described it. yesterday i only did prob 2g to 2.5 grams but i have some left over 2grams or so maybe more or less but i have a good supplier so when i get the chance ill have to try it out. thanks a million man
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: wrestler_az]
#10900535 - 08/20/09 09:01 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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if i could find some i would
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: fatherg]
#10900572 - 08/20/09 09:07 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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raw cacao is a natural maoi, and good for you too. holy crap, when I mixed the two, I had no idea what was coming. just some nibs and a tiny small itty bitty amount of.. what are they called, duds.. pin dot.. ohhhh.. aborts. It hit me so fast, the last thing I remember, I was having a revelation, next thing I knew, I was laying on the floor moaning and babbling. I lost that game.
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: Shrazoom]
#10900684 - 08/20/09 09:20 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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thats pretty interesting, i kind of think the same thing, except i still trip longer its just the come down is pretty long for me and is frustrating. the peak lasts an hour, maybe 2 depending on how much, then a long come down of another 2-3 hours.
3 hours isnt very long, are you tripping often? i found that if doing it anymore than once a week it didnt last very long and wasnt as strong.
other than that, acid.
its kind of weird since when i first started mushrooms i liked that the duration was shorter and even then thought i would like it to be shorter.
Now i want it to go on longer.,
redosing kind of works, redosing can work, but sometimes it doesnt get you back to where you were before
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: veda_sticks]
#10900757 - 08/20/09 09:30 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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mescaline is a long trip. extraction or tea will do you good for up to 12 hours.
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: ShroomDoom]
#10900772 - 08/20/09 09:32 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Try taking them through your anus. I always get at least a 12 hr trip.
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: schutzemdown]
#10900807 - 08/20/09 09:37 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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schutzemdown said: Try taking them through your anus. I always get at least a 12 hr trip.
12 hours, seriously? shrooms?
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: Shrazoom]
#10900818 - 08/20/09 09:39 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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ya, dont grind em up or anything though. shove em up there whole for best effects.
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: Shrazoom]
#10900824 - 08/20/09 09:39 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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no, hes trolling.
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: sui]
#10900869 - 08/20/09 09:47 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was actually just trying to be funny. No humor what so ever. I even got a warning for that. This place is getting a strict. I'm sure I will be told to go OTD or something with my bad jokes.
But I have heard some people taking drugs throught their anus seriously, but I don't think they where talking shrooms.
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: schutzemdown]
#10900899 - 08/20/09 09:50 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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sorry my bad. i thought it might have been a joke but I didn't know for sure.
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: Shrazoom]
#10900930 - 08/20/09 09:54 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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In a way it was a joke in a way I was serious. But I have never tried it. But here is a recent post about the same thing. Does anyone think that was worth a warning? Whatever must have had a bad day.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10885843#10885843
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: schutzemdown]
#10900938 - 08/20/09 09:56 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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schutzemdown said: I was actually just trying to be funny. No humor what so ever. I even got a warning for that. This place is getting a strict. I'm sure I will be told to go OTD or something with my bad jokes.
But I have heard some people taking drugs throught their anus seriously, but I don't think they where talking shrooms.
the community forums are the place for that kind of posting not in the focus forums. talk like that derails a thread and detracts from the discussion of the subject topic.
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: schutzemdown]
#10900950 - 08/20/09 09:57 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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schutzemdown said: In a way it was a joke in a way I was serious. But I have never tried it. But here is a recent post about the same thing. Does anyone think that was worth a warning? Whatever must have had a bad day.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10885843#10885843
plugging is for water soluble drugs, mushrooms need to be digested.
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: sui]
#10900953 - 08/20/09 09:57 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've made plenty of threads that people derailed and detracted from. they weren't warned. the thread was destroyed.
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: Shrazoom]
#10900965 - 08/20/09 09:59 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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well i cant read every thread on the shroomery can i?
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: sui]
#10900978 - 08/20/09 10:02 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm sorry I have also had threads destroyed. But I did not think my comment was strong enough to derail a post.
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: schutzemdown]
#10900998 - 08/20/09 10:04 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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its doing it right now.
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: sui]
#10901026 - 08/20/09 10:08 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: wrestler_az]
#10901063 - 08/20/09 10:13 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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wow, I knew I wasn't stupid, I read that a long time ago.
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: fatherg]
#10901102 - 08/20/09 10:17 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maoi! smoke harmaline, it makes the trip last much longer
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: tektonic]
#10901145 - 08/20/09 10:24 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I like to dose strong and ride the waves! I dosed 8 grams in tea and was tripping for almost 9 hours!! That's long enough for me!
Acid is too long... It's nice once in a while but I'm getting too old to spend whole weeks tripping!
8 grams should last you pretty long! But don't forget you'll be tripping very hard...
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: sui]
#10901186 - 08/20/09 10:31 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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suimush said: well i cant read every thread on the shroomery can i?
LoL, Well, thanks for reading enough of them to keep us in line and on topic. I appreciate it. Last thing we need is someone sticking an ounce of shrooms ( whole even?! ) in their bum and then posting it here tomorrow.
Mods rule, if you dont believe me, go find some of these less moderated boards..... I think shroomery is very good as far as that goes.
"When to re-dose" , Well.... get yourself a mostly limitless supply.... and start practicing.... learn your "timing".
For me, if I dose 3g and then re-dose 2g while still on the upswing of the trip, I will trip --much-- harder. If I wait until the very moment I feel the 'letting off of the gas' I have good results with a 2g tea.<- prefered for tripping all day.
for me, on average : 2g = strong level 2, mild level 3 3g = strong level 3( like easily slip into 4 if the setting is right. )
I do think this is very different than eating 5g str8 up.... chem concentrations dont get the same "peak" level in your brain.
As far as not getting to where you were before.... I think either, not enough, or waiting too long.... if you are AWARE that you are in the comedown phase....... you probably waited too long. You are going to need to eat quite a bit more to get back up.
Since getting the timing of it down, I almost always trip a lil bit harder on a re-dose.... THO, my mind is already accustomed to it, so, the intensity is taken out a bit.
If you mean, where you were before as in mental/emotional state...... thats life. You never get to be "where you were before". Best to enjoy where you ARE.
Tea is my prefered method of re-dosing, I can be fairly sure it will kick in within 30mins. This gives ample time from the EXACT point I feel the slowing down to the digestion of the tea.
Basically, avoid losing your momentum.
And yes, I am quite sure, that at some point a diminished return sets in. by the 3rd re-dose, you are going to need to take a gram or so more than the first 2.
It IS a different feel of an experience as opposed to eating your entire dose at once. The re-doses lose some of the "rush" like intensity( which is a lot of the fun for some people)..... but the effects DO increase and extend( IME )
Then again... maybe some people just have an easier time re-dosing( in response to a few threads where people have said it doesnt work )
Try it and see. Pretty much only thing to do.
Cacao nibs?!
I must try it. I generally eat some 85% chocolate during the comedown.... but mostly just cuz it feels good and I am hungry. Will try eating some -with- the dose next time.
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: sui]
#10901204 - 08/20/09 10:34 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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whats all this talk about lemon tek? does this work? make a trip last longer? one time I tried to make my trip last longer by eating a double dose while peaking but it seemed like a waste it lasted longer but was not that gr8... I think just eat it all at once or in moderation on the come up
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: UFOz8MyGoat]
#10901289 - 08/20/09 10:49 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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im not sure, ive tried it and id have to say no it didnt work but theres been alot of talk saying it does. Sucks it they cant study the interaction. Thank you war on drugs.
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: sui]
#10901810 - 08/21/09 12:12 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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re dose to trip longer. or just dose much more from the start.
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: Shrazoom]
#10902088 - 08/21/09 01:18 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shrazoom said: at exactly what point do you re-dose?
i always redose when im tripping balls..then you stay up, because once you go down you cant go back up. just eat them constantly when you are tripping that what i do to trip all day
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: UFOz8MyGoat]
#10902101 - 08/21/09 01:21 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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ShroomlessInOkla said: whats all this talk about lemon tek? does this work? make a trip last longer? one time I tried to make my trip last longer by eating a double dose while peaking but it seemed like a waste it lasted longer but was not that gr8... I think just eat it all at once or in moderation on the come up
lemon tek works. not longer but harder. with smaller amounts.
the key is to eat them continually will your in your peak. i promise you can trip all day long. thats my favorite thing to do.
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: sui]
#10902157 - 08/21/09 01:36 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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try dosing 1-2 grams an hour... till you don't want anymore come up is slower, but the peak will last as long as you keep dosing, although your brain seems to "get used" to psilocybin after 12 hours or so and it starts to feel alot different. I knew these kids (19 years old) that dosed like this for almost a month straight (they were dealing alot) the first couple days were trippy, then they just started to lose their minds. After almost a month of dosing (of course by then they were doing more than 1-2g/hour) 2 of the 3 had to be taken to the hospital then to the looney bin for a few months. The third successfully "came down" over a couple days and only suffered some phpd-like symptoms and a general burn out for about a year. He now owns a carpet-cleaning company! haha Anyway I guess that shows psilocybin is non-toxic, but still must be respected. Peace
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Re: how can i make a trip last longer [Re: sui]
#10902612 - 08/21/09 04:43 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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The cacao suggestion is a good one. It's an MAOI-B. It works better for phenylalanines, but it works well with mushrooms, and its easier to acquire than peganum harmala, which would be my suggestion.
either way, I usually get around 6 hours with an 8th of mush and some MAOI's
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