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Doc_T
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Why don't we use metric?
#10900061 - 08/20/09 08:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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We call ourselves 'mycologists' as if that is more dignified than being mushroom farmers. More scientifical.
But scientists use the metric system. No mycologist would measure water in cups, or measure a harvest in ounces. For some things, we are following the traditions of others- quart jars existed long before any of us. But 900mL jar is the length to type, as well as the same size jar.
So I'm going to make an effort to use the metric system for everything, all the time. I'll translate into US units when I need to talk to Americans. Is anybody with me on this?
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Re: Why don't we use metric? [Re: Doc_T]
#10900092 - 08/20/09 08:08 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Unfortuneately, the majority of the people on this site are far from mycologists, more like mush heads waiting for there next flush to trip off of. Anyways, nor am I or will I ever be a mycologist. None of us have degrees in mycology, which would make us mycolgists. Finally, we should use metric in our everyday lives, it is way more simple, multiples of ten. I know the metric system but I am not familiar with it like I am the standard sysytem.
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Re: Why don't we use metric? [Re: Doc_T]
#10900100 - 08/20/09 08:09 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Absolutely. There are a lot of Teks are there with cc's of water or ml's of liquids. But when it comes to solids, I guess most of them uses cups. I'm from europe originally, so metric is of course my preference.
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Re: Why don't we use metric? [Re: bootedboy]
#10900116 - 08/20/09 08:11 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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bootedboy said: we should use metric in our everyday lives, it is way more simple, multiples of ten.
QFT!
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Re: Why don't we use metric? [Re: Doc_T]
#10900118 - 08/20/09 08:12 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I dunno, but I recently had a problem with mentally picturing an on the fly conversion.
I ordered a scale for making LC's, agar, rye grass:sclerota, etc. I ordered it thinking 700grams would be plenty. Well, the scale arrived today, and the first thing I did was go to make an LC jar by weight, and my scale hits over limit when I tried to weigh out 600ml.. 
I was thinking earlier I need to start forcing metrics onto myself for this hobby.
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Re: Why don't we use metric? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
#10900151 - 08/20/09 08:17 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Perfect example of what I mean. 600 gram of water on a 700 gram scale leaves 100 grams for the jar. But 100 grams is less than 4 ounces. A 900mL (quart) jar weighs about 400 grams, so even a kilogram scale is just barely enough to do it like that.
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Re: Why don't we use metric? [Re: Doc_T]
#10900222 - 08/20/09 08:26 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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whats even more confusing is that a US pint is different to a UK pint.
whats also strange is the mixture of different systems. Like when you buy milk over here. Its sold in pints. when you go to buy milk, you buy 1, 2, 4 or 6 pints. Yet we mainly use the metric system.
everything else is generaly metric, though they do tell you that 2 pints is a litre, and that 4 pints is 2 litres on the jug.
pubs sell drink in 1/2 pints and pints.
ive also noticed that temperatures are almost always dealt with in F, but in the UK we use C. Ive been here for so long that i often use F now when refering to temperatur.
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Re: Why don't we use metric? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
#10900233 - 08/20/09 08:28 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Metric all the way! The one that fucks me on a daily basis is degrees F. When you've been taught oC from day one and every one here does F.
Also there's a metric pint which is 500 ml.
And 1 g of water is the same as 1 ml of water.
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Re: Why don't we use metric? [Re: Doc_T]
#10900245 - 08/20/09 08:29 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: We call ourselves 'mycologists' as if that is more dignified than being mushroom farmers. More scientifical.
But scientists use the metric system. No mycologist would measure water in cups, or measure a harvest in ounces. For some things, we are following the traditions of others- quart jars existed long before any of us. But 900mL jar is the length to type, as well as the same size jar.
So I'm going to make an effort to use the metric system for everything, all the time. I'll translate into US units when I need to talk to Americans. Is anybody with me on this?
Alright Doc, Ill join in with you and attempt to only use the metric system. Im a Bio/chem major so im pretty familiar with it, so why not?
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Re: Why don't we use metric? [Re: badman]
#10900263 - 08/20/09 08:31 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Temps are the one thing we do that make sense. 0F is very cold, 50 F is pretty cool. 75F is warm, 100F is hot.
Doesn't work like that with Celsius, however. But it does make our winters seem colder- -18 degrees sounds colder than 0F.
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Re: Why don't we use metric? [Re: veda_sticks]
#10900279 - 08/20/09 08:33 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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veda_sticks said:
everything else is generaly metric, though they do tell you that 2 pints is a litre, and that 4 pints is 2 litres on the jug.
So UK pints are officially defined to be an even metric size? That would explain why they are different to ours.
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Re: Why don't we use metric? [Re: Doc_T]
#10900330 - 08/20/09 08:39 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Standard temperature is 25oC, room temp is like 21-25C.
UK pint is 568 ml.
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Re: Why don't we use metric? [Re: Doc_T]
#10900339 - 08/20/09 08:39 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Definitions
[edit] Imperial pint
The imperial pint is equal one eighth of an imperial gallon.[1] As from 1 January 2000 it ceased to be legal to use pints within the United Kingdom for economic, health, safety or administrative purposes except for the sale of milk in returnable bottles or for the dispensing of beer or cider.[2]
1 imperial pint = 1⁄8 imperial gallon = 1⁄2 imperial quart = 4 imperial gills = 20 imperial fluid ounces = 568.26125 millilitres (exactly)[3][4] ≈ 568 ml ≈ 34.677429099 cubic inches ≈ 1.2009499255 U.S. liquid pints ≈ 1.0320567435 U.S. dry pints ≈ 1.25 lbs of water at 62 °F (16.7 °C)
[edit] United States liquid pint A label on a bottle of salad dressing showing "1 PT".
The United States liquid pint is equal one eighth of a United States liquid gallon.[1] It is used commonly in the United States.
1 U.S. liquid pint = 1⁄8 U.S. liquid gallon = 1⁄2 U.S. liquid quart = 2 U.S. cups = 4 U.S. fluid gills = 16 U.S. fluid ounces = 28.875 cubic inches (exactly)[5] = 473.176473 millilitres (exactly)[6] ≈ 473 ml ≈ 0.83267418463 imperial pints ≈ 0.85936700738 U.S. dry pints = 1.041 lbs of water at 62 °F (16.7 °C)
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Re: Why don't we use metric? [Re: Doc_T]
#10900395 - 08/20/09 08:44 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I blame gas stations, if they were to force us to buy gas by the liter instead of gallon, we would all be running out of gas 1/4 of the way to our destination; then eventually we would be forced to convert to metric.
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Re: Why don't we use metric? [Re: veda_sticks]
#10900397 - 08/20/09 08:44 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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mate you're makin me fall asleep
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Re: Why don't we use metric? [Re: veda_sticks]
#10900409 - 08/20/09 08:45 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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So you can use metric for anything but milk, beer, cider, or the weather? I guess that's not too bad.
In the US, everything has a metric amount shown on the label, but the weight is in ounces and pounds. And I doubt that many people use the metric measures other than foreigner visitors and recent immigrants.
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cyb3rtr0n said: I blame gas stations, if they were to force us to buy gas by the liter instead of gallon, we would all be running out of gas 1/4 of the way to our destination; then eventually we would be forced to convert to metric.
No way dude- my VW holds like 50 liters, I can fill it for about $30.
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Re: Why don't we use metric? [Re: Doc_T]
#10900518 - 08/20/09 08:58 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am canadian so I am so down. Metric rules so much simpler in all aspects. 1 L (which is about a quart) is 1000ml. 0C is freezing 100C is boiling. Imperial is fuct!!!!
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Meh.
As an American, I know that the imperial system of measurement is better, because it's what I use. And just because I enjoy some peculiarly American things (not our food, it's disgusting, which is why we throw it away so often), this shouldn't imply I support the occupation of Afghanistan (the butt-hole of our planet) and Iraq (Baghdad is 49019520 feet from where Iam sitting, so I don't worry about them).
Is the metric system superior to the imperial system? Of course it is. Would the cultivation forum be doing a service for the rest of the world by sticking to this widely recognized system, preferred by the rest of the people on this planet? Uhhhh, obviously yes. Does this contradict my statements above? Absolutely, but it's the truth.
Also, you would need to get Sterilite and Rubbermaid on board with your wider political agenda.
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Re: Why don't we use metric? [Re: Psuper]
#10900610 - 08/20/09 09:12 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was taught and raised with metric too :P and all I need to know for shrooms is that 250ML=1/2 Pint. However I can see it as being used for more accurate measurements.
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Re: Why don't we use metric? [Re: Doc_T]
#10900615 - 08/20/09 09:13 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: So you can use metric for anything but milk, beer, cider, or the weather? I guess that's not too bad.
In the US, everything has a metric amount shown on the label, but the weight is in ounces and pounds. And I doubt that many people use the metric measures other than foreigner visitors and recent immigrants.
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cyb3rtr0n said: I blame gas stations, if they were to force us to buy gas by the liter instead of gallon, we would all be running out of gas 1/4 of the way to our destination; then eventually we would be forced to convert to metric.
No way dude- my VW holds like 50 liters, I can fill it for about $30.
fuel is sold by the litre in the UK
oh and americans have the cheek to complain about the price of fuel!
fuel over her is £1.03 per litre, so 50 litres costs £51.50 = $84.97
stop driving those gaz guzzling wobbly cars!
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