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OfflineLoop_Theorist
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Screw grains?
    #1088613 - 11/26/02 09:12 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Ok.. now I am by NO means a decent grower. I do have several grows under my belt, all BRF jars (no PC) now that I have a PC, I've been doing up Birdseed jars like that shit was free. I've also been doing an equal number of 1 pt BRF jars because with the PC I can cut my cooking time down alot. well.. I have alot of birdseed jars filled with goo and I have an equal number of BRF jars that are showing serious growth after 2 days!! I guess my point is that there is somthing to be said for the old BRF method.


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Re: Screw grains? [Re: Loop_Theorist]
    #1088617 - 11/26/02 09:15 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

You just haven't found the right birdseed ratio.
Birdseed kicks BRF's ass!

Keep trying.



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Re: Screw grains? [Re: Roadkill]
    #1088638 - 11/26/02 09:24 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Roadkill: that may be.. but man it's get disheartening losing close to 30 jars over the past month, I've tried simmering, Anno's method, and a few other's I've found around, all to turn in to jars filled with goo after a week in the incubator.

BRF may bring em slower, but at least I get SOMEthing.


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Pack-tight, midnight, ship it to tha coast.
Some take tha plane, you, you on tha boat,
right beside tha money which right beside tha coke
Passin by tha coastgaurd, right under their nose.

To the US-HEY where anyone can getny, MIA all the way to New Your city, you a twenty now....


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Re: Screw grains? [Re: Loop_Theorist]
    #1088653 - 11/26/02 09:29 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Simmer for 30 min., drain for another 30 min., load into jars, and pc. I have yet to get a jar of goo this way. Don't add any extra water before pc'ing. If you do all this, and still get goo, I would blame the birdseed you are using.


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Re: Screw grains? [Re: ]
    #1088659 - 11/26/02 09:33 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Morrowind: I do pressure cook

and I've used that method, with several brands... my point being, wether I have piss poor luck or I'm just a piss poor grower, BRF has yet to fail me, and now, seeing REAL groth after only 48 hrs in my BRF jars, I have to wonder...


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Some take tha plane, you, you on tha boat,
right beside tha money which right beside tha coke
Passin by tha coastgaurd, right under their nose.

To the US-HEY where anyone can getny, MIA all the way to New Your city, you a twenty now....


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Re: Screw grains? [Re: Loop_Theorist]
    #1088667 - 11/26/02 09:36 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I never pre-boil my birdseed.
But I use white provo millet.

Quart jar :
250 ml of birdseed
130 ml of purified water

Pressure cook for an hour.
Let the pressure cooker cool down for an hour or so.
Pull them out and shake the fuck out of them.

Next morning shake em again.
Inoculate with spores.
Stick in the incubator and I'm good to go.



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Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!


Brainiac said:
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Re: Screw grains? [Re: Loop_Theorist]
    #1088730 - 11/26/02 10:03 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

600 ++ jars under my belt with a simple soak & load, as below. Never failed me yet. 6T
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6T WBS Tek (Wild Bird Seed) Bulk Spawn Preparation Method.

WBS consists primarily of white millet. It is often a combination of white & red millet - with a small percentage of sunflower seeds and sometimes tiny amounts of crushed corn. Some expensive brands are coated with a fungicide. For use as spawn material, treated WBS is not advisable.

You can find untreated WBS in 5 -10 & 20 pound bags, at low prices at most large chain grocery stores, or chain type pet supply stores. For instance, PetsMart has 40 pound bags for around $9.

Simply place whatever quantity you intend to use in a plastic pot, tub or bucket. Bear in mind, dry seed will expand about 20 to 25% - after it absorbs it’s capacity of water. Add tap water & soak the seed overnight. A 8 to 12 hour soak is fine. Seed soaked longer will begin to ferment. But, is still usable after soaking 24 to 36 hours.

There is no need to remove any floating husks, or sunflower seeds. These add lignin ( a good thing) & do not harbor any more possible contam’s than does the millet. It is all going to get thoroughly sterilized - anyway.

Once soaked, simply rinse the seed very thoroughly in a colander, or strainer. Then allow it to drain - WELL. As in 30 or more minutes. If it is drips - one drop. It is not drained - WELL.

Load pint or quart jars ? full, apply internal filter disk, material, polyfil or whatever method you use allow gas exchange through a ? or 3/8 inch hole in the lid. Screw lid on tight & back it off ? turn. Place a double layer of paper coffee filters over the lid & jar top, held down by a thick rubber band. Place the jars in the PC.

PC at 15 pounds for a full 60 minutes. 90 minutes is better, if you have the time. Allow the PC pressure to drop to zero & let it cool a bit. Open while still hot & remove jars. The paper coffee filters will dry almost instantly, when the PC is opened. Tighten lids (if necessary), shake jars to insure there are no clumps of seed inside. Place jars inside the oven on a rack, to cool, overnight. External coffee filters simply add another layer of protection to the jars content.

Once cooled to room temperature, store in a clean cardboard box - until used. Using them sooner than later is preferable. Note: This method was done in an All American PC. Some brands with a weighted pressure system require more internal water & it may be advisable to also cover the coffee filters with tin foil- while PC'ing, so no excess boiling water gains entry into the jars. Simply remove the tinfoil when you remove the jars from the PC.



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