Project said:

The one benefit bulk trays have is that if one tray goes bad, you can catch it in time not to ruin your other trays.  If your monotub goes bad, then it's all bad.

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Shroominit said:

Start with buying the biggest PC you can fit on your stove, or the cheapest All American you can get your hands on.

If you have any money left over, look into other necessary supplies.

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Neither of which he's gonna get with $180.00 Yet another useless post Shroominit. Gettin that post count up there though...

Do you have spores yet Nick? That's gonna be $15-20.00 that you NEED NEED to get started. Vermiculite can be tricky to find in some areas also. It can be found online easily. The pressure cooker isn't necessary for small PF tek jars. They can be pasteurized in boiling water. Look up the PF Tek or click here. I'd steer clear of the monotub type grows on the first run just for the simple fact that they are so susceptible to contamination and should you put all your eggs in one basket or tub as the case may be you could end up with nothing but a dirty tub. Glass fish tanks/terrariums are nice because you can see through them, but hardly worth the money or time. Get a storage tote and make a Shotgun FC. Simply put, it's a plastic tub with lots of holes drilled in it for air exchange. Line the bottom few inches with damp perlite, this will keep the chamber humid enough for good fruiting conditions for the PF cakes. Most other general growing info can be found here or by  searching the Shroomery Forums here. Good luck and don't any of the arrogant pricks around here give you any shit. Study up stick with it and you'll do just fine. You'll be spawning isolates to coir and coffee in no time, LOL! PEACE!

parkernitefly said:

Shroominit said:

Start with buying the biggest PC you can fit on your stove, or the cheapest All American you can get your hands on.

If you have any money left over, look into other necessary supplies.

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Neither of which he's gonna get with $180.00 Yet another useless post Shroominit. Gettin that post count up there though...

Do you have spores yet Nick? That's gonna be $15-20.00 that you NEED NEED to get started. Vermiculite can be tricky to find in some areas also. It can be found online easily. The pressure cooker isn't necessary for small PF tek jars. They can be pasteurized in boiling water. Look up the PF Tek or click here. I'd steer clear of the monotub type grows on the first run just for the simple fact that they are so susceptible to contamination and should you put all your eggs in one basket or tub as the case may be you could end up with nothing but a dirty tub. Glass fish tanks/terrariums are nice because you can see through them, but hardly worth the money or time. Get a storage tote and make a Shotgun FC. Simply put, it's a plastic tub with lots of holes drilled in it for air exchange. Line the bottom few inches with damp perlite, this will keep the chamber humid enough for good fruiting conditions for the PF cakes. Most other general growing info can be found here or by  searching the Shroomery Forums here. Good luck and don't any of the arrogant pricks around here give you any shit. Study up stick with it and you'll do just fine. You'll be spawning isolates to coir and coffee in no time, LOL! PEACE!

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+1 on the pf tek.  If you've never done it before and just want a few shrooms, the pf tek is your best guarantee of success.  You'll get them faster and easier, but if you don't mind making some mistakes and having a couple setbacks in the name of education and experience, for the reward of lots of large, nice, healthy, POTENT shrooms, DIVE INTO GRAINS and learn about horse manure substrate blends.  I have a good friend who does both for different reasons, he always just says pftek is faster from start to finish.  I can wait for the good stuff so I just do bulks.  I guess he gets the best of both worlds, but I always have enough backstock that I never need to rush it. 

nickfreezerbag said:

Ok well I do have friends with mothers so I will try to get a big PC from them because I live were horse poo is abundant. I think the stench is what is not turning me on to this tek though. Can I just use verm instead of poo?

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Nope, but about 15-20% verm is a great additive to a sub mix.  While it has no nutritional value, it retains moisture well and fluffs your sub, allowing it to breathe.  To avoid horse poo stink, only pick the dry-ass nuggets of shit.  They should weigh nothing when you pick them up and look like brown tufts of lawn clippings.  If you think it might still be wet, break it open.  If it's wet and green, toss it away.  You want the light, fluffy shit nuggets and they won't smell.  They just smell kinda like horse.  But not like shit.  Trust me, I thought the same thing at first.  adding about 10-20% spent coffee grounds to the sub will not only add nutrition but also counter any slight horse smell that may be there.

nickfreezerbag said:

Ok well I do have friends with mothers so I will try to get a big PC from them because I live were horse poo is abundant. I think the stench is what is not turning me on to this tek though. Can I just use verm instead of poo?

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oh but it doesnt smell if you find the good stuff. Well aged manure is like dirt. If it still has an ammonia smell its not ready

You want to find the stuff that is well dried and has firefang growing in it. It wont smell, will look like nuggets of dirt with bits of straw sticking out of it.

collect it even if you dont plan on using it yet, make sure its dry and store it in a bag in a dry place, i think you need to leave the bag open ??

You could even get a set of cakes going, and make a few extra cakes up to do a mini double tub to get your foot into using hpoo. My mate done that and so did i with some nice results despite his getting hit with some mould he still got an a nice first flush and amazingly a 2nd flush.

we used 2 3 litre food containers made into 1 tub



the lids were gluied together and the middle cut out so your left with the rim that holds the tubs together. :-)

a few of these will produce plenty of shrooms. using 1 1/2 pint cake as spawn.

nickfreezerbag said:

is the soda bottle fruiting chamber better than the shotgun or is it just convenient?

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nickfreezerbag said:

Ok thank you all, and yes I have spent many months reading up on different teks and how to use and not use and what to do and not do. The hardest thing I think for most people is trying to find the right tek. I started off wanting to to the PF cakes + shotgun terrarium. Then all these poo teks and grain came flying in my face. but now I think I am back to wanting the PF cakes and shotgun style.

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