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OfflineLivinSublime
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Re: Ralph...will you ever accept credit cards? [Re: Roadkill]
    #10798734 - 08/04/09 01:31 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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FooMan said:

I don't think it's just our security he's worried about.

If I recall correctly, I think Ralph has already had to pack up shop and move once before due to legal worries.







I'm sure he is worried about his security as well as his customers...

I think his main goal is to prevent a paper trail.



He did move his business and home...

Personal reasons as well as legal ones...

He lived in Idaho and they outlawed spores in that State.



tc



Thats sad that such bs can go down in the usa. I mean yeah its been going on for years but to alienate one individual and send them packing seems so against everything america has stood for.

I dont know ralph personally but have ordered with him b4, great product and nice guy, but i support him and his profession.


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Re: Ralph...will you ever accept credit cards? [Re: LivinSublime]
    #10802446 - 08/04/09 11:46 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

The gov't just likes to pull shit like that so they can feel, and try to show their constituents that they are making progress, in reality they are taking time from real issues, like budget deficits


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Re: Ralph...will you ever accept credit cards? [Re: fireshaman]
    #10804054 - 08/05/09 09:28 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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fireshaman said:
The gov't just likes to pull shit like that so they can feel, and try to show their constituents that they are making progress, in reality they are taking time from real issues, like budget deficits



Damn straight. Its not people like us and ralph that hurt the community, or society or whatever you want to call it. Its the people that see nothing but dollar signs.

Its like I said in a talk with another member. People that grow/study these types of things have a natural love and understanding about the chemicals, life cycle and effects of their "hobby". Ralph was just able to turn something he felt strong about into a career and make a bit of money at it.

ISNT THAT THE AMERICAN DREAM?lol.


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Re: Ralph...will you ever accept credit cards? [Re: ralphster44]
    #10828266 - 08/09/09 03:13 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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ralphster44 said:
thats the last thing you want to do is use a CC
Think about it...your name on file forever




Not Necessarily.  Depends on how the records are kept, if a company wanted too, they would not need to keep your info more than one tax season.  Anyway, the internet is traceable enough.  Credit cards aren't gonna make a difference. 

And remember, loose lip sink ships.  Unless your running Overgrow.com, you are quite unlikely to be busted via paper trail; It's alot of work and cops are lazy.  Plus, for some reason, courts and judges believe snitches more than hard evidence, go figure!  Keep the paranoia in check and you may recognize the real dangers.


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Re: Ralph...will you ever accept credit cards? [Re: guitarpah]
    #10832770 - 08/10/09 12:13 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Whether or not Ralph's reasons are for the customers security or his own is a personal call on his part. Many vendors do accept Credit Cards, but the process, can be filled with problems.

Due to the nature of the product (even though legal) it is deemed as a "High Risk" venture, and will only be accepted by companies who specialize in this. Finding a good reliable company can often be a difficult task as there are so many fly by night companies out there.
If a Vendor does find a good one they can trust, there is still the problem of CC Fraud and Chargebacks to deal with, all creating losses for the vendor since their product has already been shipped. Not to mention the higher setup fees and rates the vendor must pay to be accepted.

Online payment processors like paypal are just as bad, as they can... and do lock and freeze accounts for months on end while they "Review" your sales activities.

Whatever Ralph's reasons are... it is his choice and should be respected.


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Re: Ralph...will you ever accept credit cards? [Re: Shdwstr]
    #10835064 - 08/10/09 06:39 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I'm continually dumbfounded that people are suggesting that Ralph has the ability to decide his document retention policies, adn that these will remove the problems with dealing with credit cards.


Him throwing out records is almost totally irrelevant.  They still exist, can still be had, and can very easily document his sales.


I also don't see what the fact that people can get prepaid credit cards has to do with anything.  Ralph would still be subject to the same risks, and he would have no way of knowing, or caring, whether prepaids are used.  At  the end of the day, he's still accepting extensive documentation that will live on for years and document his sales and shipping practices.


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Re: Ralph...will you ever accept credit cards? [Re: johnm214]
    #10845159 - 08/12/09 11:32 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I've been lurking around the Myco scene for a few years now and Ralph has been the man to see about spores the whole time. Most selection, started the whole free spore thing and beyond legit top notch business and customer support. I wish he accepted CC too but he's got a right to accept what ever payment makes him comfortable and keeps him and his customers safe.

I for one will be getting a money order soon and getting some research spores, a small pain in the ass for a great unbeatable service. It's a win, win if you ask me!


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Re: Ralph...will you ever accept credit cards? [Re: FunGuyJedi]
    #10862414 - 08/14/09 11:01 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

many reasons why you don't want to use credit cards.

one that no one has mentioned is how easy it would be to scam ralph or use credit card fraud agaisn't him. And i DOUBT he wants to be going to court against 20+ people over spore syringes


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Re: Ralph...will you ever accept credit cards? [Re: Roadkill]
    #10862998 - 08/15/09 12:33 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I don't see whats so hard about putting cash inside of a money order...


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Re: Ralph...will you ever accept credit cards? [Re: johnm214]
    #10863764 - 08/15/09 06:31 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

no..we dont keep any records

We dont use names and CC numbers

we use an order number.

It seems I am more concerned about your safety issues than you are.
I'm talking about using CC.

Once you do a transaction with us..Its over..like it never happened.
No records.

The answer is...NO...I wont take CC.

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Re: Ralph...will you ever accept credit cards? [Re: kinderfeld11]
    #10863872 - 08/15/09 07:58 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

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The answer is...NO...I wont take CC.


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