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Could you have a bad trip if you...
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Didn't know about a bad trip? The two times I've had bad trips, I feel like I made it worse because maybe something threw my mind off and then I got panicked and assumed I was having a bad trip, thus making for a terrible time.

The two times I tripped before I even knew about a bad trip, I had amazing times with no anxiety at all, even while doing them with people I didn't know that well. Although maybe I'm just lucky to have been in a good mindset and even if I had not known of a bad trip, I could have had a miserable experience.

What do you all think? I've been thinking about this for a while especially since my last trip earlier this year which was the most awful experience of my life and has changed me forever. I've just been trying to make sense of why it happened and what exactly happened.


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: tokingnome]
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Its all about the frame of mind brother, mind over matter...this will always steer you correct and true when trippin as I have had a so called "bad trip"


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: LivioDoubleFang]
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i guess you would call it a panic attack if it happened to you. i think you could still have one


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: SummerDaisies]
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SummerDaisies said:
i guess you would call it a panic attack if it happened to you. i think you could still have one


I guess so but I've always felt I've been a pretty level headed person and I've never been close to having a panic attack, well, before the first bad trip.

I just feel like maybe I and other people have psyched themselves in to having a bad trip. Maybe if I/they didn't know that a bad trip was possible, the "bad trip trigger" would've just be shrugged off as a funny moment.

Anyways I just wanted to know if anyone else feels the same as I do. I've tripped probably 50 or so times, so I'm not weak minded, but I do feel there is some truth to what I am saying.


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: tokingnome]
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maybe you personally wouldn't then, but someone else might


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: SummerDaisies]
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Yes, psychedelics can greatly distort your senses and with the wrong set/setting... the results can be disasterous.

Tripping too hard in public, in a bad frame of mind.

I remember a trip a few years back where my buddy got a call from his brother on the come up of a heroic dose and his brother told him his girl was cheating on him. He had a horrible time... and i'd be willing to bet it'd do that to just about anyone.

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Edited by oxalic32 (04/05/11 02:05 PM)

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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: oxalic32]
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Subconscious said:
Yes, psychedelics can greatly distort your senses and with the wrong set/setting... the results can be disasterous.

Tripping too hard in public, in a bad frame of mind.

I remember a trip a few years back where my buddy got a call from his brother on the come up of a heroic dose and his brother told him his girl was cheating on him. He had a horrible time... and i'd be willing to bet it'd do that to just about anyone.


If I was told that sober, I would have a bad week. I am a hopeless romantic though and I can get hurt over stuff like that easy.

oxalic32 said:
You aren't an experienced tripper until you've had a bad trip. If you keep tripping you'll eventually have one some time. You just have to be able to handle it like an experienced tripper. Riding it out really isn't that hard, but i've had really deranged and frightening bad trips.


You've probably never had a horrible trip off of 9g's. I can honestly say I would never wish that upon my worst enemy. I do feel like I had psyched myself in to a mind-frame of fragility.


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: oxalic32]
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I used to love acid many years ago. I had to learn to respect it or any hallucinagens for that matter.I didn't realize that it was a tool more than a recreational drug.I had several fun trips then one day I had a very scary trip.I then learned about a bad trip.It took many bad trips after that to start getting good trips again. Always respect the drug..


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: lsatrap]
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lsatrap said:
I used to love acid many years ago. I had to learn to respect it or any hallucinagens for that matter.I didn't realize that it was a tool more than a recreational drug.I had several fun trips then one day I had a very scary trip.I then learned about a bad trip.It took many bad trips after that to start getting good trips again. Always respect the drug..


Yeah after that last bad trip I've only done mushies once since then and it was a couples months afterwards. I did it with a very close friend and we watched Speed Racer while peaking (AWESOME MOVIE TO TRIP TO!). I basically just did it to prove to myself I could handle tripping again and I wasn't insane.


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: tokingnome]
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I had to trip by myself for a long time after the bad trips.Even though I call them bad I still look back on them and realized that I learned from them.It was just scary as hell. At first acid showed me all the wonderful things of life but, there was times that it pointed out all the evil things too.


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: lsatrap]
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lsatrap said:
I had to trip by myself for a long time after the bad trips.Even though I call them bad I still look back on them and realized that I learned from them.It was just scary as hell. At first acid showed me all the wonderful things of life but, there was times that it pointed out all the evil things too.


I've tripped by myself at least 1/2 if not more of the times I have tripped.

I feel it's a lot more peaceful and a lot easier to get a good experience out of it and learn something about yourself.


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: tokingnome]
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Yes me too. I prefer to trip alone 99% of the time..


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: lsatrap]
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When partaking in psychedelic endeavors, I find it to be of GREAT help to abandon all judgement. Don't label every sensation as being "good" or "bad." It simply is.

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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: lsatrap]
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echoes_ said:
When partaking in psychedelic endeavors, I find it to be of GREAT help to abandon all judgement. Don't label every sensation as being "good" or "bad." It simply is.


I really like this idea. Thank you for sharing. Maybe this will help prevent a bad trip ever again.

lsatrap said:
Yes me too. I prefer to trip alone 99% of the time..


Right on, I like they way you think.


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: tokingnome]
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I feel that your trip is completely maneuverable by the way you choose to percieve things.

If you look at what is happening during your trip as awesome and cool and rad and you accept what is happening, GOOD TRIP!

If you start to see things in a negative manner, and try to push thoughts away and worry yourself about what is happening, BAD TRIP.


Just basically don't get too caught up in any one thing, let your mind go with the flow, and love it. And you will be fine


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: HopanDubMan]
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HopanDubMan said:
I feel that your trip is completely maneuverable by the way you choose to percieve things.

If you look at what is happening during your trip as awesome and cool and rad and you accept what is happening, GOOD TRIP!

If you start to see things in a negative manner, and try to push thoughts away and worry yourself about what is happening, BAD TRIP.


Just basically don't get too caught up in any one thing, let your mind go with the flow, and love it. And you will be fine


very true.

ive only had a bad trip once and that was trying to ignore what was happening and just tring to sleep it off. didnt work. best course of action is to ride it out.

its all in your mind anyway and while it seems very real, its not. and while it seems like its lasting forever, its really only a few hoiurs.

worryig about a bad trip can certainly cause a bad trip.

dont dwell on it, go in with an open mind, relax and accept what comes to you.

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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: veda_sticks]
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Hell yeah
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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: HopanDubMan]
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Yeah, I'm sure you could say it was a 'bad' time if you got mindfucked into that never-ending hallway trying to figure out the most simplest shit ever and panicked.

Happens to everyone though, you just need to let it go.. If you don't, then you're going to be having a very uncomfortable time thinking you're going crazy.


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: Darkstrand]
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Oh man..I have came across a couple of those times.
I have learned not to

-Try and figure out anything that the human race has created that is taught in school (irony, mathematics, blah blah blah)

-Try and open packages or put things together.

Doing those things usually cause me to start losing my mind pretty quickly


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: HopanDubMan]
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When they say the only thing to fear is fear itself, they are wrong. Do not even fear fear itself! When you fear about having a bad trip, you are fearing fear in itself! Fear shouldn't be feared at all, it shouldn't be ignored either. It should be acnowlaged, and you should find the root of it.

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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: The Centre]
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Good advice everyone. I definitely need to keep all this in mind next time I trip.

I do feel like I fear, fear itself when it comes to a bad trip. Anxiety is through the roof whenever I first take the mushies, but it normally dwindles after an hour of tripping and I realize, I AM FINE.


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: tokingnome]
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It's like climbing the uphill part of a roller coaster.  It's just part of it, as long as you don't start freaking out.


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: Project]
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Project said:
It's like climbing the uphill part of a roller coaster.  It's just part of it, as long as you don't start freaking out.


If the come-ups on mushies were like that I would be stoked! Haha I love roller coasters.

I honestly don't even know why I get so anxious as I've had 2 bad trips out of 50 and I can pinpoint what exactly made me go crazy both times. It's still gonna be a while before I start tripping again.


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: tokingnome]
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Yea it sounds to me you need to just wait till the shrooms tell you it's time. Not you telling yourself it's time.  The magic will appear when it time.


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: lsatrap]
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lsatrap said:
Yea it sounds to me you need to just wait till the shrooms tell you it's time. Not you telling yourself it's time.  The magic will appear when it time.


Exactly how I'm looking at it. I feel I have a lot more to learn and the mushrooms will let me know when it's time. I'd hate to start tripping too early, have a bad time, then never want to trip again.


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: tokingnome]
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I still stay away from acid. Shrooms I can't do more then once a year but, lsa from mg seeds I can do every 2 weeks.


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: lsatrap]
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lsatrap said:
I still stay away from acid. Shrooms I can't do more then once a year but, lsa from mg seeds I can do every 2 weeks.


I've never done acid but I have done 2c-i and I don't even feel it's remotely possible to have a bad trip on that stuff. Someone would have to fuck with you.

You like LSA that much more than mushies? Why?


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: tokingnome]
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I can just gobble them down. I get no bad side effects at all.the trip is very visual for me without the (for lack of a better term) mind fuck.
It is very close to acid for me but I don't flip out or get paranoid even though it's an intense trip.


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: lsatrap]
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lsatrap said:
I can just gobble them down. I get no bad side effects at all.the trip is very visual for me without the (for lack of a better term) mind fuck.
It is very close to acid for me but I don't flip out or get paranoid even though it's an intense trip.


I'm going to have to check this stuff out. Where do you get your MG seeds?


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Re: Could you have a bad trip if you... [Re: tokingnome]
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I've always bought mine at wal-mart but you can get a better deal on- line try IAS


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